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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    New formula? Didnt AX reformulate Advanced PCT too? Interested in both
    ax replaced 6-bromo with 7 methoxy.
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    woke up last night looking very lean!!! had a good night at work and did 45 minutes on the treadmill and a ton of ab work after work this morning. i can't say enough how good i feel taking pct assist!!! really liking this new formula! libido is REALLY high!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    ax replaced 6-bromo with 7 methoxy.
    I actually never knew they changed to 7 -methoxy. I remember the original was very popular at DAyears ago.

    Glad it working out for you so far BigT. With this new formula there is very little chance of many negative effects /sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    I actually never knew they changed to 7 -methoxy. I remember the original was very popular at DAyears ago.

    Glad it working out for you so far BigT. With this new formula there is very little chance of many negative effects /sides
    i am seeing nothing but positives, the original pct assist was good, this new version is better!!!

    tbh-i have noticed very little difference from when i was on androhard, maybe a little less pump and fullness but that's about it. really happy with the way i have been leaning out, and i feel great and mood is almost too good-if i am not careful people will start thinking i am a nice guy, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    With this new formula there is very little chance of many negative effects /sides
    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    and i feel great and mood is almost too good-if i am not careful people will start thinking i am a nice guy, lol.
    be careful with that


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    man, the mood enhancement and feel good effects of pct assist are amazing. work is going smooth, accomplishing what i set out to do in the gym, and sex life is top of the world!!!


    can't believe this is pct....
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    man, the mood enhancement and feel good effects of pct assist are amazing. work is going smooth, accomplishing what i set out to do in the gym, and sex life is top of the world!!!


    can't believe this is pct....
    when your pct goes smooth .. thats like the best thing in the world
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    Quote Originally Posted by GQNemesis View Post
    when your pct goes smooth .. thats like the best thing in the world
    amen, brother!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GQNemesis View Post
    when your pct goes smooth .. thats like the best thing in the world
    Definitely, that way you maintain strength/size gains and possibly keep it going . . . at a lesser rate of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Definitely, that way you maintain strength/size gains and possibly keep it going . . . at a lesser rate of course
    i have lost 5 pounds but that was intentional, i still have great muscle fullness and haven't lost any strength. the pumps i am getting are just as good as on cycle.


    btw-the mucuna in pct assist is well dosed, and high quality. sexual staying power is much increased and refractory time is way down, this usually happens with a good macuna product-the res and icariin sure don't hurt either, lol.
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    took today as an off day, and went to a matinee with the grandkids. saw that car movie, had a really good time. stole some of the kids popcorn and had a diet coke, so didn't cheat too much.

    mood is very high and feeling good!!!
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    Glad to hear its still going good. Have you seen some of your old favorites are back in stock at NP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Glad to hear its still going good. Have you seen some of your old favorites are back in stock at NP?
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/manufactu...ive-edge-labs/
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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Glad to hear its still going good. Have you seen some of your old favorites are back in stock at NP?
    you mean d-plex/stano/fura-a.........hell yeah. great price on the formestane and suppress-c also!!!!
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    The new formula looks very good. Glad it's treating you well bigt.

    And DAMN... Good to know Nutra is now carrying the CEL line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    The new formula looks very good. Glad it's treating you well bigt.

    And DAMN... Good to know Nutra is now carrying the CEL line...
    thanks, cm.....time to stock up-----again, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    The new formula looks very good. Glad it's treating you well bigt.

    And DAMN... Good to know Nutra is now carrying the CEL line...
    Nutra hasn't carried those ph's in a long time iirc.. nice to see them up again for sure.
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    Theater popcorn is soo good, esp loaded with butter & salt. LOL

    Too damn expensive tho, that's what usually holds me back from getting any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Theater popcorn is soo good, esp loaded with butter & salt. LOL

    Too damn expensive tho, that's what usually holds me back from getting any.
    That's the price of quality
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    Part of the pump effect might be from the icariin. It inhibits the same enzyme as viagra, etc for vasodilation. Adding extra hgw to any test booster usually makes a difference for me
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Part of the pump effect might be from the icariin. It inhibits the same enzyme as viagra, etc for vasodilation. Adding extra hgw to any test booster usually makes a difference for me
    i agree, icariin treats me very well. as to the mood and feel good effects, i think that is definately the macuna res combo.



    btw-theater popcorn is addicting, just the smell makes me nutz, lol.
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    I wiki'd epimedium to confirm my comments about PDE5 inhibition. The studies they cited actually showed that hgw binds MORE strongly to PDE5 than viagra. Btw, PDE5 enzyme inhibition plays a role in increased nitric oxide which then causes vasodilation.

    Of course stronger PDE5 binding doesn't necessarily make hgw "better" at improving overall blood flow. For example, there are probably other enzymes and completely different avenues that viagra, cialis, etc may use to improve erection. And just to add to that, wiki never said HOW MUCH hgw was being used or what icariin%.

    Wiki says that Icariin is the active in epimedium plant that we're interested in. There's a ton of epimedium variations, one of which being hgw. My understanding of the variations doesn't go beyond just seeing them listed on wiki though.

    Also, I'm thinking there's evidence for test boosting from hgw, that i'm thinking isn't there for ED drugs. I'll have to look that up to confirm at some point too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    I wiki'd epimedium to confirm my comments about PDE5 inhibition. The studies they cited actually showed that hgw binds MORE strongly to PDE5 than viagra. Btw, PDE5 enzyme inhibition plays a role in increased nitric oxide which then causes vasodilation.

    Of course stronger PDE5 binding doesn't necessarily make hgw "better" at improving overall blood flow. For example, there are probably other enzymes and completely different avenues that viagra, cialis, etc may use to improve erection. And just to add to that, wiki never said HOW MUCH hgw was being used or what icariin%.

    Wiki says that Icariin is the active in epimedium plant that we're interested in. There's a ton of epimedium variations, one of which being hgw. My understanding of the variations doesn't go beyond just seeing them listed on wiki though.

    Also, I'm thinking there's evidence for test boosting from hgw, that i'm thinking isn't there for ED drugs. I'll have to look that up to confirm at some point too.
    good stuff, celc. cel got the percentage and variation right according to how i am reacting. btw-i think icariin is a test imitator-whatever that means is open to interpretation, imo.
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    My celc-logic interpretation would be that it's "shaped" similar to test and might bind to an androgen-esque receptor. That's what 6oxo did... so we had lots of agression, libido, acne, but no real anabolic effect.

    Oh and to contradict what I said in my last post, there IS test boosting effect from cialis according to a quick tidbit I read last night in an old MD mag. I haven't looked up the reference but I bet it will be interesting
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    My celc-logic interpretation would be ...
    LMAO..celc-logic..I like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry17 View Post
    LMAO..celc-logic..I like
    I just make shiit up and then BigT spreads it around
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    I just make shiit up and then BigT spreads it around
    lol-what are freinds for!!!!!





    not much new to report-which i consider a good thing. i haven't really noticed any bad effects at all since stopping androhard. the most noticeable thing is my mood being so high, not something you usually associate with pct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lol-what are freinds for!!!!!

    not much new to report-which i consider a good thing. i haven't really noticed any bad effects at all since stopping androhard. the most noticeable thing is my mood being so high, not something you usually associate with pct.
    During pct, I usually still have good workouts and don't really notice a ton of strength or mass loss. But I always sort of feel "out of sync." So mood enhancement during pct would be real nice.
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    Here's a study posted by Rhyno a few years ago here on AM. I didn't use the quote function because it didn't seem to capture the quote within a quote... and I didn't post the link because the thread went rep sour IMO after the Rhyno post:

    The testosterone mimetic properties of icariin.
    Zhang ZB, Yang QT.
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    AIM: To evaluate the testosterone mimetic properties of icariin. METHODS: Forty-eight healthy male Sprague-Dawley rats at the age of 15 months were randomly divided into four groups with 12 rats each: the control group (C), the model group (M), the icariin group (ICA) and the testosterone group (T). The reproductive system was damaged by cyclophosphamide (intraperitoneal injection, 20 mg/kg x day) for 5 consecutive days for groups M, ICA and T, at the sixth day, ICA (gastric gavage, 200 mg/kg x day) for the ICA group and sterandryl (subcutaneous injection, 5 mg/rat . day) for the T group for 7 consecutive days, respectively. The levels of serum testosterone, luteinizing hormone (LH), follicle stimulating hormone (FSH), serum bone Gla-protein (BGP) and tartrate-resistant acid phosphatase activity in serum (StrACP) were determined. The histological changes of the testis and the penis were observed by microscope with hematoxylin-eosin (HE) staining and terminal deoxynucleotidyl transferase biotin-dUTP-X nick end labeling (TUNEL), respectively. RESULTS: (1) Icariin improved the condition of reproductive organs and increased the circulating levels of testosterone. (2) Icariin treatment also improved the steady-state serum BGP and might have promoted bone formation. At the same time, it decreased the serum levels of StrACP and might have reduced the bone resorption. (3) Icarrin suppressed the extent of apoptosis of penile cavernosal smooth muscle cells. CONCLUSION: Icariin has testosterone mimetic properties and has therapeutic potential in the management of hypoandrogenism.

    Later in the thread, someone asked about the definition of "mimetic" as in testosterone mimetic. I believe that's where I was going with my other post about how hgw might to the receptor but not have EXACTLY the same effect as test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    During pct, I usually still have good workouts and don't really notice a ton of strength or mass loss. But I always sort of feel "out of sync." So mood enhancement during pct would be real nice.
    exactly why i am emphasizing my good mood and feeling of well being.
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    Appreciate all the feedback so far BigT. I started the new PCT Assist but had top stop after a couple days because i was getting bloodwork done. I think I'll start back Fri

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Appreciate all the feedback so far BigT. I started the new PCT Assist but had top stop after a couple days because i was getting bloodwork done. I think I'll start back Fri
    no problem, i am really enjoying this new formula....you guys did a great job with it!!!


    waiting to hear your feedback on it!!!
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    Great price for this in the Nutra sale!!! time to give it a shot
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Great price for this in the Nutra sale!!! time to give it a shot
    yeah, i saw it was one of the products marked down-get some at that price!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    yeah, i saw it was one of the products marked down-get some at that price!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry17 View Post


    Add to that the coupon code and I believe it's the cheapest you can find.
    you can add the cou[pon discount to the sale price------damn. i think i need another bottle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you can add the cou[pon discount to the sale price------damn. i think i need another bottle.
    lulz, just realized you couldn't. :P
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    Wait so can you add the 10$ off onto the sale price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    Wait so can you add the 10$ off onto the sale price?
    Nope I checked, and it's for the non-discounted items. :sadpanda: lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry17 View Post
    Nope I checked, and it's for the non-discounted items. :sadpanda: lol
    lol-i was afraid of that.
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