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    OUFINNY gets pumped and Mesorphed with APS!


    Now that I have finished the **** contest, it is time to meet my log obligation to APS with Creatine Nitrate and Mesomorph. I will post my pictures here since they are current and then we can compare at the end of the log. Today was the first REALLY good workout I have had in a while, Meso has me sweating still and I feel great considering a five day much needed break.

    Here are the supps I will be taking:
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    Brutal Alchey Forged Steel
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    Thats it!!!!

    Workouts are to be determined, I will post todays highlights here shortly, food is on the stove and needs my attention.
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    Needtobuildmuscle contest Final before and after pics thread.

    Here are my pics from last week, should give you a good idea where I sit.

    Today workout highlights after 5 days off:
    DB Incline - 85x8x3, 95x6, 100x5
    DB Bench - 95x5 This was after 6 sets of CGBP
    Lots of other ancillary stuff and cable work.

    Initial thoughts on Meso:
    Taste - 2/10 Guys this stuff is nasty, it tastes like watermelon flavored acid but has little aftertaste so I chug water and it is a short, miserable experience.
    Energy/Focus - 10/10 Crazy energy and endurance, excellent mind/muscle connection.
    Pumps, duh! - 7/10 They are great but I am not blown away, could be my diet that is very low in carbs.

    Creatine Nitrate is great and I stay full for a long time after the workout, dosing 6/2 right now and will stick with it. Vascularity is pretty sick right now, more so than the pumps.
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    Looks like a nice little stack, there. I'm in
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    Subbed, this is gonna be a sick log

    I am shocked you don't like the watermelon, I tried it for the first time today and really liked it.
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    Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    Subbed, this is gonna be a sick log

    I am shocked you don't like the watermelon, I tried it for the first time today and really liked it.
    There is this bitter, acidic overwhelming taste that I cannot get past JD; don't know what else to tell you. I love the effects so far so I look WAY past that, though for 30 seconds, I am not a happy camper. I will say this though, the original NTKTS, NOS Ether and a few others over the years have been worse. The big difference is there is no stomach discomfort at all and there is ZERO crash at all which is nice. Anything with geranium in it can do that to many and I get it as well, but none with Meso so far. Considering the volume on chest yesterday I was surprised I didn't have a crazy pump but that may come in time as I took 5 days off of creatine during my mini break this Easter holiday.
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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    There is this bitter, acidic overwhelming taste that I cannot get past JD; don't know what else to tell you. I love the effects so far so I look WAY past that, though for 30 seconds, I am not a happy camper. I will say this though, the original NTKTS, NOS Ether and a few others over the years have been worse. The big difference is there is no stomach discomfort at all and there is ZERO crash at all which is nice. Anything with geranium in it can do that to many and I get it as well, but none with Meso so far. Considering the volume on chest yesterday I was surprised I didn't have a crazy pump but that may come in time as I took 5 days off of creatine during my mini break this Easter holiday.
    That acidic taste you are referring to is the creatine nitrate. In the compound the creatine is actually the salt form of creatine bonded to a NO3- molecule. This salt form is actually what makes this creatine more water soluble. And higher solubility = higher bioavailability. And of course their is no bloat because it does not want to bond with water, unlike the normal form of creatine. Well thats my theory....

    Anyways....

    JD have you had a chance to try the Anabolic Ignite? I would say that APS should try and make a lemon-lime version of Meso, since the salt/acidic taste goes well with lime/lemon flavorings. Just a thought.

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    Originally Posted by beni182 View Post
    That acidic taste you are referring to is the creatine nitrate. In the compound the creatine is actually the salt form of creatine bonded to a NO3- molecule. This salt form is actually what makes this creatine more water soluble. And higher solubility = higher bioavailability. And of course their is no bloat because it does not want to bond with water, unlike the normal form of creatine. Well thats my theory....

    Anyways....

    JD have you had a chance to try the Anabolic Ignite? I would say that APS should try and make a lemon-lime version of Meso, since the salt/acidic taste goes well with lime/lemon flavorings. Just a thought.
    I knew it was the creatine nitrate making it taste bad, none of the other ingredients gave a taste like that in other drinks I have had. I need to pick up some of that Anabolic Ignite as it is the only other on the market that looks to be a good combo with CN in it. So far, I can look past the taste of the Meso and am happy I am running it. Plus, having stims in it already is nice.
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    Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    There is this bitter, acidic overwhelming taste that I cannot get past JD; don't know what else to tell you. I love the effects so far so I look WAY past that, though for 30 seconds, I am not a happy camper. I will say this though, the original NTKTS, NOS Ether and a few others over the years have been worse. The big difference is there is no stomach discomfort at all and there is ZERO crash at all which is nice. Anything with geranium in it can do that to many and I get it as well, but none with Meso so far. Considering the volume on chest yesterday I was surprised I didn't have a crazy pump but that may come in time as I took 5 days off of creatine during my mini break this Easter holiday.
    aha I didn't mind the orginal n2kts lol, Nos Ether on the other hand was gross, but great product for effects. Ya that is a bonus with Meso, no one seems to be getting a crash from it. If you don't mind me asking how are you dosing the Creatine Nitrate? Also for Meso are you taking a level scoop of rounded? technically the serving size is 1 rounded scoop but everyone seems to get away with just taking a leveled scoop.

    Originally Posted by beni182 View Post
    That acidic taste you are referring to is the creatine nitrate. In the compound the creatine is actually the salt form of creatine bonded to a NO3- molecule. This salt form is actually what makes this creatine more water soluble. And higher solubility = higher bioavailability. And of course their is no bloat because it does not want to bond with water, unlike the normal form of creatine. Well thats my theory....

    Anyways....

    JD have you had a chance to try the Anabolic Ignite? I would say that APS should try and make a lemon-lime version of Meso, since the salt/acidic taste goes well with lime/lemon flavorings. Just a thought.

    Nope havn't had a chance to try Anabolic Ignite yet, but I'll have to give it a try sometime to see how that lime/lemon flavor is. I hear good things about it from southpaw, he has been stacking it with meso.
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    Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post

    Nope havn't had a chance to try Anabolic Ignite yet, but I'll have to give it a try sometime to see how that lime/lemon flavor is. I hear good things about it from southpaw, he has been stacking it with meso.
    Im doing the same. I take the ignite about 45min prior to workout then about 15 min before I do a half scoop of meso for my stim mixed with about 30g dextrose. I like the lemon lime taste and the stevia sweetner used. Artificial sweeteners are noticeable in taste to me.

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    Originally Posted by beni182 View Post
    Im doing the same. I take the ignite about 45min prior to workout then about 15 min before I do a half scoop of meso for my stim mixed with about 30g dextrose. I like the lemon lime taste and the stevia sweetner used. Artificial sweeteners are noticeable in taste to me.
    In time I think everyone will start using Stevia, I love putting some in my green tea with unpasterized honey
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    I'm in! I pretty much agree on the taste but I've gotten used to it just as I did the original N2KTS. It's a bit gritty too but like you said, for the results I can overlook the taste and chug it!

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    Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    aha I didn't mind the orginal n2kts lol, Nos Ether on the other hand was gross, but great product for effects. Ya that is a bonus with Meso, no one seems to be getting a crash from it. If you don't mind me asking how are you dosing the Creatine Nitrate? Also for Meso are you taking a level scoop of rounded? technically the serving size is 1 rounded scoop but everyone seems to get away with just taking a leveled scoop.
    Dosages:
    CN - 6 45-60 mins prior / 2 Post workout
    Meso - 1 level scoop, do not need anymore

    Today will be a good test, it is humid and I am doing legs for the first time in a good 10 days!
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    Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    In time I think everyone will start using Stevia, I love putting some in my green tea with unpasterized honey
    Agreed, stevia is an excellent natural sweetner and does not have a bunch of filler in it like sucralose.
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    Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Mesomorph is my favorite pre-workout bar none.
    I haven't tried it yet. I am about to run a log of Wyked, curious how they stack up. Maybe I can sneak a scoop from Matt or something to give it a shot. He also has me interested, and maybe even more so in the Creatine Nitrate.
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