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  1.  04-20-2011  08:53 PM
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    DaveGabe puts Lipotrophin AM/PM to the test!




    Ok, finally getting this started up! A little bit of a crazy week or two as I'm graduating and the semesters winding down.

    Regardless, dieting and training is on point and I started supplementing on Sunday. I'll post the before/after pictures at the end of the log. I am dosing PM 3caps 30mins or so before bed. The AM I am dosing 2 caps / 3x daily to prevent the peaks and valleys. Overall I feel this will be a more effective route and will be easier on my adrenals without having to worry about any down-regulation.


    I follow intermitten fasting dieting, more info can be found at Intermittent fasting diet for fat loss, muscle gain and health. Basically I have an eight hour feed period (usually 5pm-1pm), and then a 16 hour fast.Calories have been reduced pretty significantly, as I'm confident the Lipotrophin will aid me in the preservation of LBM.

    Workouts are Mon-Wed-Fri. Simple chest/tri/shoulder - - back/bi - - legs split.


    I do high intensity, low frequency style lifts and keep it very simple. I'm not into the crazy styles of working out, I do what works for me and I'm a firm believer that the work done in the gym is a very small piece to the large puzzle.


    I'll try to take some videos of some sets during my lift tonight, gonna do back/bis.



    Any questions, comments , or concerns... lemme know!


    I'll also be posting pics of my meals I prepare from time to time


    Thanks again to the AN guys for the opportunity!



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    You have a good stack there, and from what I can see, good nutrition and training practices as well. All the best in achieving your goal (I assume fat loss, and if it's not, I apologize for my assumption), bud

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    Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    You have a good stack there, and from what I can see, good nutrition and training practices as well. All the best in achieving your goal (I assume fat loss, and if it's not, I apologize for my assumption), bud

    ~Rosie~
    Thanks for stoppin in Rosie!! It is to drop so fat as you mentioned, I'm currently 196 which is the lowest I've been in a year or two. If I could drop down to 190ish by the end of the products I'd be ecstatic. I'll be using two non-stim pre-workouts (yok3d and ICE Plus) to keep my caffeine consumption to reasonable levels and make sure I can maintain proper sleep hygiene as I tend to lift late at night.

    Looking forward to see how this goes! Applied Nut. always impresses me with their write-ups and deep understanding of what goes into their products.


    Glad to have ya, and amazing avy pic by the way

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    Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Thanks for stoppin in Rosie!! It is to drop so fat as you mentioned, I'm currently 196 which is the lowest I've been in a year or two. If I could drop down to 190ish by the end of the products I'd be ecstatic. I'll be using two non-stim pre-workouts (yok3d and ICE Plus) to keep my caffeine consumption to reasonable levels and make sure I can maintain proper sleep hygiene as I tend to lift late at night.

    Looking forward to see how this goes! Applied Nut. always impresses me with their write-ups and deep understanding of what goes into their products.


    Glad to have ya, and amazing avy pic by the way
    Just be sure that BODY COMPOSITION as opposed to scale weight is the target of your focus. However, there's no reason why you cannot get to ~190 pounds by the end of your use with this stack.

    Lipotrophin-PM should help you with your sleep re deepness and quality - it did for me and that was the initial reason I first started using it and continued to use it.

    Dirk does his homework and provides quality formulas, no doubt about it

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    Yesterdays workout:


    Pullups
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    YouTube - 4-20-11 pullups BWx5
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    BW x 9
    BW x 8
    BW x 8

    Seated Machine Rows
    x 20
    x 15

    Curls
    x 20
    x 15

    Done.

    This is the first week of lifting since I've been back since Italy. Sort of easing into things and next week will start the heavy, fun stuff.

    Today I took 2lbs ground beef and 1lb of hickory smoked bacon...and made four monster burgers



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    ^^ looks good, did you know that ground beef reduces almost 25% in weight when you cook it?!?
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    Originally Posted by chubbarock View Post
    ^^ looks good, did you know that ground beef reduces almost 25% in weight when you cook it?!?
    Give or take, yup...and rinsing your meat before your cook it can clear out almost 60% of the fat.

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    subbed bro!

    Damn them burgers look good..

    My butcher makes these burgers that have bacon grounded up and mixed throughout the beef.. they are incredible!
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    Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    subbed bro!

    Damn them burgers look good..

    My butcher makes these burgers that have bacon grounded up and mixed throughout the beef.. they are incredible!
    Lucky bastard lol, sounds amazing!


    Didn't get to squat yesterday, my dad had surgery on his kidney Thursday...so I came home to help take care of em.



    Making my first quiche this afternoon...and I'm excited


    May be a new way for me to bring eggs back into my diet. I have gotten so sick of standard morning egg recipes that i haven't eaten any in months. Making tons of different quiches may be a good way to mix it up a little.

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    Tonight's Lift (35-40mins total)

    CGBP
    135 x 10
    185 x 10
    225 x 10
    275 x 5
    275 x 4
    255 x 5
    255 x 4

    35* Incline DB
    45 x 20
    45 x 12
    45 x 12

    Seated Machine Press
    x 20
    x 20
    x 20

    Done. Got a litttttle bit of heavy work, and then some pretty fast paced volume. Since I'm in a caloric deficit I tend to shy away from the heavier work that I usually due, just to stay on the safe side of things. Much less risk of injury with the faster paced, lighter weight, higher volume for now. Should lend itself to leaning out nicely, as well.


    I must admit, sleep has been noticeably better as well. The energy is obviously there as well because I've been stim free for months before using the AM. So the 6 caps ( 2caps @ 3x ) has been working great. The first two doses are on an empty stomach since my first meal is at 5pm. So far so good!

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    Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    I must admit, sleep has been noticeably better as well. The energy is obviously there as well because I've been stim free for months before using the AM. So the 6 caps ( 2caps @ 3x ) has been working great. The first two doses are on an empty stomach since my first meal is at 5pm. So far so good!
    Good to hear

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    Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Good to hear

    ~Rosie~
    Yup!


    Overall, it was a bit of a sloppy weekend. Unfortunately if you turn down food in an Italian family its borderline disrespectful to your grandparents and aunts....so I tried my best.

    This whole week though I'll be all cleaned up, and doubt there will be any real damage done. Weights around 196ish, have been off creatine for a few weeks as well so that's most likely out of my system. That's why I'm not surprised by a few minor decreases in strength.


    Regardless just looking to lean out nicely in my abdominal section which usually leans out very easily. It's my legs that I've never seen striations in before

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    Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Yup!


    Overall, it was a bit of a sloppy weekend. Unfortunately if you turn down food in an Italian family its borderline disrespectful to your grandparents and aunts....so I tried my best.

    This whole week though I'll be all cleaned up, and doubt there will be any real damage done. Weights around 196ish, have been off creatine for a few weeks as well so that's most likely out of my system. That's why I'm not surprised by a few minor decreases in strength.


    Regardless just looking to lean out nicely in my abdominal section which usually leans out very easily. It's my legs that I've never seen striations in before
    A couple of bad days is not going to harm you

    Strength does not have to necessarily cause a decrease in strength, since it indirectly helps with any strength gains (most of it is in one's nutrition), but yeah, you DO notice when NOT using creatine, especially if you don't use it so long that you allow your body's muscle creatine levels to return to threshold.

    If you've never had striations in your legs before, maybe you just need to get leaner and/or build the muscle mass up more there for it to be more noticeable if not always leaner.

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    Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    A couple of bad days is not going to harm you

    Strength does not have to necessarily cause a decrease in strength, since it indirectly helps with any strength gains (most of it is in one's nutrition), but yeah, you DO notice when NOT using creatine, especially if you don't use it so long that you allow your body's muscle creatine levels to return to threshold.

    If you've never had striations in your legs before, maybe you just need to get leaner and/or build the muscle mass up more there for it to be more noticeable if not always leaner.

    ~Rosie~
    Agreed that the few days were negligible.

    I just dropped creatine since I was in Italy for a week, and didn't want to reintroduce it when I came back, also at the beginning of this log because the period of re-saturation and overall appearance with make it difficult to properly assess my initial state when starting AM/PM.

    Unfortunately most of my muscle mass is in my legs actually, and my squats are my best numbers. Have the national APA squat record for 220, raw, juniors actually.

    It's just a matter of hitting 4-6% BF, which I admittedly, have never reached.

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    To give an idea...here's a pic of when I was 18ish, granted I was a measly 180lbs or so...but you can tell how I'm no where near striations





    and here's my legs:


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    lookin swole in 3yr old pics, where are the updated shots lol?
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    Originally Posted by chubbarock View Post
    lookin swole in 3yr old pics, where are the updated shots lol?
    Here's some more recent ones:









    Last night's workout:

    Pullups:
    BW x 5
    BW x 5
    +25 x 5
    +50 x 3+1+1
    +50 x 5
    BW x 5

    Rack Chins
    BW x 10
    +40 x 10
    +40 x 10

    Bi's


    A solid workout, felt good to get some weighted pullups going again. Happy to keep strength levels relatively the same despite caloric deficits. Pretty crazy week in school, had a human variation test, microbio test, genetic presentation, and next week's finals.

    Excited to graduate though, and be shredded for summer

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    Tonight's workout:


    Squats
    135 x 10
    185 x 5
    225 x 5
    225 x 5
    275 x 5
    315 x 3
    275 x 5
    225 x 5

    Calves/Abs


    Felt good gettin back under the bar and squatting. Hips and glutes lost a lot of strength so my drive through was real weak, but I'm looking forward to gettin some nice numbers back.

    I think from here on out I'll be substituting my 3rd dose of AM with PSU. So my daily dose of stims will be roughly the same, just a little extra ingredients for my workout performance.


    Sleep has been great, and I'm waking up earlier in the mornings. However, since I'm so not used to getting up as early as I have been I tend to go back to sleep to a more appropriate hour. Something I can work on I suppose

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