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    JaP's Cuttin for the Summer with Lipotrophin-AM/PM (Sponsored)


    I was Previously at 2700 cals/day, and was not doing any morning cardio, basically sustaining my current composition. With Lipotropin AM/PM ,the addition of some light morning cardio, and decreased cals, , i'm hoping to see some sick results.

    I'll be tracking overall body composition, strength, endurance, recovery, and quality of sleep throughout the log.

    Diet: 50g fat, 190g Carbs, 275g Protein ~ 2300 cal

    5:30AM - 20g protein shake(1g ALCAR, 1.5g Beta Alanine, 5g BCAA)
    7:00AM - 1/2 cup oatmeal, 20g shake, 2 tbsp natty peanut butter or 1 serving almonds
    9:00AM - 7oz grilled chicken or 4oz 96% lean hamburg, 1/2 cup of baby spinach
    10:30AM - Met-Rx protein plus bar
    12:30PM - 7oz grilled chicken or 4oz 96% lean hamburg, 1/2 cup of baby spinach
    2:30PM - Met-Rx protein plus bar
    3:15PM - 40g Waxy maize
    5:00PM - 35G protein shake, 40g waxy
    7:00PM - 7oz grilled chicken or 4oz 96% lean hamburg, 1/2 cup of baby spinach, 1 tbsp natty peanut butter or 1/2 serving almonds
    9:30PM - 25g casein shake


    Routine

    30 min AM cardio 4-5 times a week. 15 minutes HIIT post W/O 4-6 times a week. Going to increase the rep range slightly, between 8-12 on all sets. Also going to keep my rest period between sets to 60-90 seconds.

    Day 1 - Chest - 5 exercises
    Day 2 - Back - 6 exercises (then abs)
    Day 3 - Arms - 3 exercises ea.
    Day 4 - Shoulders/Traps - 8 exercises
    Day 5 - Legs - 6-7 exercises (then abs + forearms)
    Day 6 - Rest


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    Currently got a ton of bulk supplies im using to make my preworkout drink

    5g Citrulline Malate
    5g AAKG
    3g Creatine
    250mg Na-RALA
    200mg Caffine
    3g Beta Alanine
    2G ALCAR
    5G BCAA
    40g waxy

    Post workout drink:
    5g Gluatmine
    5g BCAA
    35 g protein
    250mg NA-RALA
    40g Waxy
    3g Creatine

    Other supps:

    ON Opti-Men
    ON Fish Oil (3g)
    Lean Green
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    There's a lot of shakes in there - if you can, I recommend replacing them with real food.

    I also recommend cutting your HIIT back to 3-4 days, doing your HIIT pre-weights (use it as a 'warm-up') if you are going to do that with them, in the morning and doing your 30 minutes post-weights, or on alternate days to your lifting - swap it for ~3 of your 30-min sessions. Just my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    There's a lot of shakes in there - if you can, I recommend replacing them with real food.

    I also recommend cutting your HIIT back to 3-4 days, doing your HIIT pre-weights (use it as a 'warm-up') if you are going to do that with them, in the morning and doing your 30 minutes post-weights, or on alternate days to your lifting - swap it for ~3 of your 30-min sessions. Just my thoughts.

    Otherwise, Lipotrophin-PM is a great product - hope you enjoy it

    ~Rosie~
    Thought about eating more "food", lol. It seems like a lot, but they are small shakes, most around 20-25g protein, when most guys are bangin out 50+g protein shakes daily. Honestly, too lazy to cook/eat any more meat during the day.

    As for the cardio, no way in hell im doin HIIT pre weights, lol. I feel tired enough as it is afterwards, not gonna try and lift after that. I've been readin all different opinions on fasted AM cardio, non fasted AM , post WO cardio, etc. Everyone has their own views, and there is really no concensus anywhere as to what's "best". Gonna stick with this for now, but if i notice a strength decrease, i might just have to get some more advice from you. Appreciate the input though. Legit already starting to question the amount of shakes i'm drinking, sigh... thanks rosie :-p
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    Thought about eating more "food", lol. It seems like a lot, but they are small shakes, most around 20-25g protein, when most guys are bangin out 50+g protein shakes daily. Honestly, too lazy to cook/eat any more meat during the day.

    As for the cardio, no way in hell im doin HIIT pre weights, lol. I feel tired enough as it is afterwards, not gonna try and lift after that. I've been readin all different opinions on fasted AM cardio, non fasted AM , post WO cardio, etc. Everyone has their own views, and there is really no concensus anywhere as to what's "best". Gonna stick with this for now, but if i notice a strength decrease, i might just have to get some more advice from you. Appreciate the input though. Legit already starting to question the amount of shakes i'm drinking, sigh... thanks rosie :-p
    More food is better than less food, IMO, but that's just me.

    As for cardio, yes, there are many different ways of doing it, and you have to fins the best way to do it for YOU for YOUR best progress and results.

    If your nutrition and training are manipulated correctly, then there is no need for you to lose strength.

    I'm here to help out and make sure you do everything effectively to optimize your results.

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    I've been tweeking my diet/exercise for a while now, still trying to figure out whats ideal for me. Thanks rosie
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    I've been tweeking my diet/exercise for a while now, still trying to figure out whats ideal for me. Thanks rosie
    No worries There's nothing for it but to experiment with things to find what's best and most ideal for you. This may change over time (it has for me), but as you get to know your body, you will be able to adapt to it, manipulating nutrition and training to keep making progress and get the results you want.

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    Day 1

    Today was a rest day, so I really can't comment on a workout. Might do some cardio this afternoon. As far as energy levels, haven't really felt anything yet. Took 2 AM pills at 5:30am and 12:30pm. Not tired, but no noticible energy as of now. PM pills on the other hand worked freakin amazingly on the first night. Took 2 pills last night 1/2 hour before bed @10pm, didn't wake up at all until my alarm went off. Feels weird, but in a good way, to sleep straight through the night. Hopefully its recomp effects will pan out as well as their ability to keep me asleep.

    Yestarday post WO weight - 171.6 lbs
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    ...PM pills on the other hand worked freakin amazingly on the first night. Took 2 pills last night 1/2 hour before bed @10pm, didn't wake up at all until my alarm went off. Feels weird, but in a good way, to sleep straight through the night. Hopefully its recomp effects will pan out as well as their ability to keep me asleep.
    Now you know why I love Lipotrophin-PM and the primary reason I used it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Now you know why I love Lipotrophin-PM and the primary reason I used it!

    ~Rosie~
    Preachin to the choir, that stuff is awesome. Gives me some pretty elaborate dreams too, which is fun, until i have ridiculous nightmares i cant get out of, ahaha

    Day2

    Took 2 AM pills at the same times today, 530am/1230pm, and cant say i noticed any instant or long term energy effects. Had a high volume leg workout today with a tweaked back from mondays back workout, which was killer, but i endured lol. Ended with somed forearms/abs/light cardio. Walked on the scale and it said 174.2. Kinda confused. Even though i had this weeks cheat meal today, which is a burger and a handfull of fries, up 3 lbs over a day when im usually at a steady 171 is weird.

    So far, loving the PM, and not so much the AM, but dont wanna make any definitive comment til the run is over.

    Leg work out:
    Seated leg curls - 60x15, 90x16, 120x15, 150x12, 180x9
    single leg extensions - 30x20, 45x15, 60x15, 90x13, 120x10, 120x9
    hack squat machine - 95x20, 125x15, 155x15, 185x12, 215x10
    calf sled - 90x20, 180x156, 270x15, 270x15, 270x13
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    Day 3

    Chest day today. Goin from heavy weight to high volume, so i'm pretty beat. Stayin in the 8-12 rep range, and really trying to be strict to only restin 60-90 seconds. Took the PM prebed last night, and at 830am/330pm today. Feeling pretty good, generally like i normally do. Sleepwise, got myself some high quality rest, felt great this morning

    Chest work out
    BB Bench - bar x20, 95x20, 135x15, 185x10, 225x8, 245x6
    Smith Incline - 135x12, 185x10, 205x8
    Seated decline cable flies - 30x15, 42.5x12, 57.5x8
    Standing high cable crossovers - 60x12, 70x10, 80x9
    Stand low cable crossovers - 40x12, 50x10, 60x8
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    Day 4

    PM is still workin wonders, letting me sleeo through the night and feel refreshed ever though i only got 6 hours. AM i still cant comment on definitively, theres no added energy, but nothing negative either. Post workout weight is still 173.6, mainly due to my friends pre-cancer surgery burger competition at eagles deli. I'm used to small meals of 7oz chick n stuff, not a 2 lb burger. Was a pretty decent preworkout meal though lol

    Back Workout
    Wide grip chins - 12, 10, 10, 9
    hammer high rows - 1pX15, 2pX12, 115x9, 115x8
    T-bar cable pulldowns - 150x12, 180x10, 195x8
    low hammer rows - 1pX15, 2pX12, 115x9, 115x9
    Wide grip pull downs - 135X12, 165x10, 165x9
    single arm cable rows - 60x12, 75x10, 90x8
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    Day 5 + 6

    PM is still amazing, getting efficient rest every night. Diets still on point, taking in about 2300 a day. 172 lbs as of yestarday post workout. Nothing major to update really

    Arms:
    Cable pushdowns: 70x12, 80x10, 90x9
    Single arm Cable pushdowns: 40x12, 50x10, 60x8
    Reverse grip smith press: 185x12, 225x8, 225x8
    Overhead DB raise: 30x12, 40x8->30x6

    Lying cable curls - 60x12, 75x10, 75x9
    Incline dumbell curls - 25x12, 30x10, 30x10
    Single arm cable curls - 30x12, 40x10, 40x10
    Cable Hammers - 50x8->40x6->30x7

    Delts/Traps
    Military DB - 70x12, 80x10, 90x7
    Widegrip upright rows - 95x12, 115x10, 135x8
    Single arm front cable raises-30x12, 40x7->30x6
    Lateral Machine - 80x12, 100x8->70x6
    Hammerstrength Shrugs - 6px15, 7px12, 8px12, 9px9
    single arm rear delt cables - 30x12, 40x10, 50x8
    barbell shrugs - 185x12, 225x8, 225x8
    reverse pec deck - 120x12, 165x8->120x6
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    Nice workouts brotha - I thoroughly enjoy both parts of this stack, but the PM is def my favorite aspect
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    subbed bro!

    BTW just a question.. is there a reason why you are taking your ALA with WMS? Isnt it usually suggested to take ALA before your CHO (that is if your taking it for GDA properties)

    Also ALA is a great anti-oxidant so I would also take some prior to workouts as exercise increases the oxidative load and creates a high amount of free radicals

    Also how are the dreams with PM? Mine are insane and the most vivid I ever had! Like little mini movies in my head lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
    subbed bro!

    BTW just a question.. is there a reason why you are taking your ALA with WMS? Isnt it usually suggested to take ALA before your CHO (that is if your taking it for GDA properties)

    Also ALA is a great anti-oxidant so I would also take some prior to workouts as exercise increases the oxidative load and creates a high amount of free radicals

    Also how are the dreams with PM? Mine are insane and the most vivid I ever had! Like little mini movies in my head lol
    Well i know that most supps with ala or gymema like slin sane or glycobol suggest taking it 15 min or so prior to CHO intake. I guess i made the assumption that they were simply doing so because that around the time it takes for caps to dissolve (i could be mistaken). And i am takin ALA pre and post. Although i gotta say, for all the $$ and effort i put into makin my pre WO shake, i rlly see no difference compared to when i was just taking Arginine/caffeine/WMS. Once my supply runs out, im just going back to the basics.

    As for the PM, dreams are crazy. Seems like im in them for a good half hour at a time, and the detail is amazing, lol. Just hope i dont get caught in some ridiculous nightmare and wake up sh1tting myself, hahaha
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    Day 7 +8

    Pumped, walked into the gym to find all new equipment. Today was legs, and it's pretty crazy how different the feel is between the new old machines. Only took them 10 years or so =/

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    BB Squat - 135x15, 185x10, 205x8
    Leg Press - 270x15, 360x12, 450x10, 540x8
    Lying Leg Curls - 90x12, 100x10, 110x8
    Single leg extensions - 30x12, 45x10, 60x8 (caught me offguard, old machine let me do 60x15 like a warmup)
    calf sled - 90x15, 180x12, 180x12 (again, old machine 6 plates was a good 15 reps, f**cked me up again)
    seated calf press- 90x12, 90x12 (u get the point by now...)
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    Day9-11
    Not going to continue posting detailed work outs, im sure no one wants to read it. Things have been pretty constant, weight around 172. Although today may be a bit different, easter probably put a couple of pounds on me, we'll see. As for the AM pills, i have noticed a steady energy throughout the day. Wasn't very prevalent before, but i'm no longer taking a caffeine pill in the morning and runing to starbucks at noon. PM pills dont need any more hype, everyone knows they are the sh1t , aha
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    ...PM pills dont need any more hype, everyone knows they are the sh1t...
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    I will never understand my body. Friday post work out, i was 173. Skipped cardio that day, as well as sat/sun, only lifting. And on easter, i devoured more cookies/cakes/cheese than i would normaly consume in months. I step onto the scale post WO monday, 171. Maybe tiramisu will be my new staple... lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    I will never understand my body. Friday post work out, i was 173. Skipped cardio that day, as well as sat/sun, only lifting. And on easter, i devoured more cookies/cakes/cheese than i would normaly consume in months. I step onto the scale post WO monday, 171. Maybe tiramisu will be my new staple... lol
    What your body does does not always make sense - I'm proof of that, LOL. In saying that, if you've been low calories and restrictive re nutrition, etc., a "refeed"/higher calories can have this effect - hence why calorie cycling is the most effective nutritional method for fat loss, IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    I will never understand my body. Friday post work out, i was 173. Skipped cardio that day, as well as sat/sun, only lifting. And on easter, i devoured more cookies/cakes/cheese than i would normaly consume in months. I step onto the scale post WO monday, 171. Maybe tiramisu will be my new staple... lol
    This is why I tend to judge how things are going by look/feel rather than actual body weight, the scale is always my enemy lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by chubbarock View Post
    This is why I tend to judge how things are going by look/feel rather than actual body weight, the scale is always my enemy lol
    A good thing to do. Scale weight is IRrelevant, since you can be losing bodyfat but gaining some lean mass and it won't change at all, or even increase a little. Scale weight is NO indicator of what changes your body is making. The best thing to do if you cannot get your body composition done all the time or cannot make a fairly accurate guesstimate of what you are, is to go off what the mirror shows you and how your clothes feel re body changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    A good thing to do. Scale weight is IRrelevant, since you can be losing bodyfat but gaining some lean mass and it won't change at all, or even increase a little. Scale weight is NO indicator of what changes your body is making. The best thing to do if you cannot get your body composition done all the time or cannot make a fairly accurate guesstimate of what you are, is to go off what the mirror shows you and how your clothes feel re body changes.

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    oh i know. But im thinking, i ate a ton, and did less cardio, so i should have theoretically gained more muscle from the extra cals, and more fat as well (like i said, in theory). And actually, i did look tighter then usual. Still confused, aha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    oh i know. But im thinking, i ate a ton, and did less cardio, so i should have theoretically gained more muscle from the extra cals, and more fat as well (like i said, in theory). And actually, i did look tighter then usual. Still confused, aha.
    Theory does not always translate into reality. You may not have been eating as much as you think you did, or not enough to gain muscle mass and/or bodyfat. And even if you did eat enough for gains, if you're not eating enough consistently for them, then they are not necessarily going to happen.

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    i have had nothing to report unfortunately. Still sleepin well from the PM, not seeing anything drastic with the AM. Wish i could post more, but i really got nothin =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaJaP View Post
    i have had nothing to report unfortunately. Still sleepin well from the PM, not seeing anything drastic with the AM. Wish i could post more, but i really got nothin =/
    How about giving daily comments - no matter how brief - on the following (relevant re products' effects):

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    Performance (could be re endurance or strength or in general, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    How about giving daily comments - no matter how brief - on the following (relevant re products' effects):

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    Performance (could be re endurance or strength or in general, etc.)
    Appetite
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