Is this real 1-AD? Help!!!!

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    Is this real 1-AD? Help!!!!


    Alright guys, I just ordered some 1-AD from an individual seller online. The manufacturer is Icon Sciences 1-AD.

    I googled the hell out of this product and can find nothing! However, I'm a established member on another steroid forum and all the guys over there have told me this seller is LEGIT! Has anyone heard of this?

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    We need a little more info.

    What ingredients are listed on the bottle/package and what is the expiration date (I want to say they sold the OG 1-AD before the ban). Even if it's the more recent 1-AD, it appears that it converts as advertised (or at least to a degree).

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    1-androsterone in the journal “Steroids”

    By Patrick

    “Steroids” is a prestigious journal that covers the science of….take a guess…steroids. An abstract has just recently been released http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21310167 for an article that is soon to be published in Steroids. The article concerns the product 1-Androsterone by Advanced Muscle Science (AMS). It explains how this product was seized by some German FBI type agency and then sent to a lab to be analyzed for both capsule content and in-vivo metabolism.

    I am sure this was a major bust for the neo-gestapo over there. I mean it’s not like you can just openly buy this stuff over dozens of websites.

    Anyway, the study did find that the product contained the proper amount of the proper compound (which BTW is technically 1-DHEA and not 1-androsterone). Kudos to AMS for that at least, since so many hormonal products on the market are mislabeled and under dosed. The study also showed that ingestion of the product caused an increase in urinary excretion of 1-testosterone, 1-androstenedione, 1-androstenediol (both isomers), and actual 1-androsterone. The article then makes a mistake by suggesting an observed increase in DHT and its metabolites was evidence of “an alteration” in endogenous steroid metabolism. If they had studied past literature they would have realized that these DHT compounds were actual metabolites of the active ingredient rather than naturally produced metabolites (the 1,2 double bond can be naturally reduced in the body). But that’s just academic and of little practical consequence. One interesting thing they found however was that the 1-androsterone metabolite had an unusually long half life in the body, as it was still detectable at 9 days after the ingestion of just a single capsule. That is unusual and unexpected.

    Other than the prolonged elimination of the 1-androsterone metabolite none of this comes to a surprise to me, as my knowledge of steroid metabolism (specifically 1-test related steroid metabolism) would have me predict pretty much exactly what they reported. I am not quite sure though why these Germans bothered with all this research in the first place, as I would guess that any users of 1-androsterone would test positive under the already established methods for detecting 1-testosterone and 1-androstenediol. So why bother with analyzing the metabolism of a 1-test metabolite? I guess the German taxpayers don’t complain as much about trivial government expenditures as us Americans do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedarkone View Post
    Alright guys, I just ordered some 1-AD from an individual seller online. The manufacturer is Icon Sciences 1-AD.

    I googled the hell out of this product and can find nothing! However, I'm a established member on another steroid forum and all the guys over there have told me this seller is LEGIT! Has anyone heard of this?
    I've never heard of it but if you got a bunch of established, respected members vouching for it, I don't see what the problem is? It should be G2G.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    We need a little more info.

    What ingredients are listed on the bottle/package and what is the expiration date (I want to say they sold the OG 1-AD before the ban). Even if it's the more recent 1-AD, it appears that it converts as advertised (or at least to a degree).
    I haven't gotten it yet. The exact compound structure is identical to the old Ergopharm's 1-AD. 1-Androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    We need a little more info.

    What ingredients are listed on the bottle/package and what is the expiration date (I want to say they sold the OG 1-AD before the ban). Even if it's the more recent 1-AD, it appears that it converts as advertised (or at least to a degree).
    Thanks for that info stxnas, but I am familiar with AMS products and this 1-AD is by Icon Sciences. And it's a diol version. Same as Ergopharm, supposedly. I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of this brand?

    I mean, are they that underground that they're not detectable through any internet search?
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