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    Yo that's crazy that you eat lots of sugars and gain no fat. But gain fat or get bloated from whole grains huh? What's a typical daily diet look like for you buddy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Yo that's crazy that you eat lots of sugars and gain no fat. But gain fat or get bloated from whole grains huh? What's a typical daily diet look like for you buddy?
    Just sayin', fruit and sugars aren't what cause fat gain, LOL - eating beyond energy needs and/or lean mass gain caloric requirements does - and bloating can be caused by anything an individual is sensitive or intolerant to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Just sayin', fruit and sugars aren't what cause fat gain, LOL - eating beyond energy needs and/or lean mass gain caloric requirements does - and bloating can be caused by anything an individual is sensitive or intolerant to.
    So you're saying if I swapped out my Oats, Brown rice and WW bread & pastas for sugars instead I wouldn't gain fat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    So you're saying if I swapped out my Oats, Brown rice and WW bread & pastas for sugars instead I wouldn't gain fat?
    Not saying that at all - although, if you were eating under Maintenance doing that, then it's unlikely you would gain anything. No individual is alike, and just as with training, everyone has to find the "best" and most optimal nutritional method for them, their body, goals and needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Not saying that at all - although, if you were eating under Maintenance doing that, then it's unlikely you would gain anything. No individual is alike, and just as with training, everyone has to find the "best" and most optimal nutritional method for them, their body, goals and needs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarbellBeast View Post
    Yo that's crazy that you eat lots of sugars and gain no fat. But gain fat or get bloated from whole grains huh? What's a typical daily diet look like for you buddy?
    I maybe phrased that badly so will summarise my ethos on it to clear things up.

    - For me, I must be lean to deserve high carb treats
    - I went low carb and had one refeed (not cheat) meal once every five days until I was sub 10% body fat
    - I digest gluten badly, although a functional medicine test did not identify any allergy to gliadin I get gastrointestinal upset (although mild in some cases) with almost any grain. Gluten free are my only options, rice, quinoa, buckwheat, potatoes are my main starch sources.
    - When I cheat, I tend to do it with sugary foods rather than starchy foods because I react badly when I eat junk. There are very few gluten and dairy free cheat meals available so what I class as a 'cheat' is a refeed by most people's standards.
    - Examples of refeed foods for me are; coconut macaroons, buckwheat pancakes, brown rice and sweet potatoes.

    I am definitely someone who has adapted and functions best on low carbs, if I have a small portion of brown rice with my meat for breakfast I spend all day with fluctuating blood sugar and feel the need to take a nap within a couple of hours. This is why I try and take in these foods after training only. If I had chicken and brown rice for breakfast rather than steak and nuts I have the training drive of someone who has just taken a mild herbal sleep aid lol.

    It isn't that I would get fat necessarily if I eat grains, I mean bloated as in GI bloating rather than a 'bloated' look.
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    Today was the first arm workout of the new routine. Here it is;

    A1) Reverse EZ Scott Curls 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    A2) EZ Scott Curls 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    A3) Scott Zottman Curls 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    A4) Seated Hammer Curls 3-0-1-0 120 seconds
    All exercises are 8-12 reps

    B1) 45 Degree Incline DB Tricep Extensions 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    B2) Flat Bench DB Tricep Extensions 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    B3) Flat Bench Narrow Grip EZ Extensions 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    B4) Seated Narrow Grip Overhead EZ Extensions 3-0-1-0 120 seconds
    All exercises are 8-12 reps.

    Workout was hard, a fierce pump in the arms which is to be expected. The weights are extremely light compared to what I am used to doing which is why I chose a routine like this, as an acculumation phase following an intensification phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Workout was hard, a fierce pump in the arms which is to be expected. The weights are extremely light compared to what I am used to doing which is why I chose a routine like this, as an acculumation phase following an intensification phase.
    Even using lighter (or what you might consider "light") weights, one can still complete an intense session if they know how! Looks like you did just that

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    The weights used on the third time through the giant set were ridiculously light. I am absolutely not used to this system of training at all so it took me to school.

    Usually my tri-sets are much higher intensity with only one exercise being in a 12 rep range.

    Today is an off day today. Here is my summary so far.

    - Appetite increase is undeniable. The time it takes from eating to feeling hungry again is definitely less than it is usually. Rather than going 2.5 hours and wondering what I am going to eat there have been occasions where I am ravenous by the 2 hour mark.
    - Urination was crazy on one day only. Since then I don't think I go more than normal.
    - Hunger after the gym especially has gone up, even though I have bumped the carbohydrate portion of my post workout shake up to 150g (almost 2g/kg bodyweight)
    - Carbohydrate cravings have gone up

    I don't feel like I am making the most of this yet. I am not used to wanting to eat so much so need to cook large meals in advance and have something I can warm up when I am hungry rather than cooking when I start to feel hungry because that half an hour waiting for something to cook sometimes feels like hours because I am so hungry.
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    Today was the second session of chest and back. It was hard as I was very sore in both brachialis muscles to the point that chin ups were quite painful just to perform.

    Strength improvements were in all chest exercises and in all back exercises however there was a sharper drop off curve on both bodyweight exercises (chest dips and narrow parallel grip pull ups).

    Appetite has stayed high. Not painfully high like it was on the first couple of days but definitely higher than normal. I have bought some high carb snacks to make sure I have some on hand as well as 5kg of BRP and WMS arriving tomorrow so I have carb/protein shakes to take with me when I go out to keep my appetite satisfied when no food is available and to tame what can be, fairly severe cravings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Even using lighter (or what you might consider "light") weights, one can still complete an intense session if they know how! Looks like you did just that

    ~Rosie~
    I am gutted you quoted me on something when I had a spelling mistake in there so I couldn't go back and edit it without people noticing lol.

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    Today is my 7th day on AnaBeta-01. Here is my summary so far.
    - Weight is 82kg. -1kg from starting weight (standard fluctuation for me). Weighed myself first thing in the morning between the toilet and breakfast as I did before.
    - Arm measurement is the same which is expected
    - Most noticeable effect has been a huge increase in appetite. I can't work out when it peaks as sometimes it is much more obvious than others. Breakfast appears to be one of the times it is harder to get full. After training has been constant eating on occasion but not on others. I wonder if my copious stimulant intake prior to training blunts this more than it would with other people.
    - No noticeable increase in mood which has been reported with other people's logs
    - No noticeable thermogenic effects which aren't there for me otherwise (I feel warm on higher carb meals and sweat profusely during training when I take stimulants as I am now)
    - In terms of body composition I think I am going to put a photo in around the half way mark as I am confident I am already looking slightly sharper even after the first week. My girlfriend was spending the week in another city and said I was looking wider when she saw me compared to last week.

    I am waiting for the mechanic to tell me when my car is done and then I will go straight to the gym for legs before going to a friends for a barbecue later to get a firm bump on my caloric intake for the day while socialising (no alcohol involved as it is a requirement for this log and I don't tend to drink more than about 3 times per year anyway).
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    Due to an error on the mechanic's behalf my car wasn't ready and I did my legs session yesterday instead (one of the reasons I train 3 out of 5 days, it gives me versatility to move one of the sessions if something unforeseen arises).

    The leg session was extremely hard, I had to lie down on two occasions between my giant sets because the pump in my lower back was so extreme. I don't know how much the AnaBeta-01 contributes to this but I can see it is the most painful lower back pump I have ever experienced including doing 6-12-25 routines on the posterior chain.

    My workout capacity was better, I managed to get all 12 sets of the A exercises within the given rep range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Due to an error on the mechanic's behalf my car wasn't ready and I did my legs session yesterday instead (one of the reasons I train 3 out of 5 days, it gives me versatility to move one of the sessions if something unforeseen arises).

    The leg session was extremely hard, I had to lie down on two occasions between my giant sets because the pump in my lower back was so extreme. I don't know how much the AnaBeta-01 contributes to this but I can see it is the most painful lower back pump I have ever experienced including doing 6-12-25 routines on the posterior chain.

    My workout capacity was better, I managed to get all 12 sets of the A exercises within the given rep range.
    I'm thinking there is some correlation as I had the same issue with my oly lifts. (back pumps)

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    Arms session today. The pump was very extreme. After my first giant set on my biceps I found it quite hard to flex my arm just to take a drink.

    Improvement across the board except with the zottman curls, I found the pump very intense in my brachialis which crippled my performance on the exercise quite a lot. It is possible to attribute this to the AnaBeta-01 because it is extremely rare I won't improve on every exercise in the gym, especially the second session into the new programme with all variables kept the same. I haven't done this programme without the AnaBeta-01 so although it is possible, I could not say for definite that this is causing the crippling pumps. I think it is more than likely to be a factor.

    Looking good while training though. A couple of my friends who I train in the same gym as have given me compliments about looking pumped during and after training. I believe I already look better in the mirror hence me proposing to take a photo half way through this bottle rather than wait to the end as I would be curious to see if anyone else notices a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Arms session today. The pump was very extreme. After my first giant set on my biceps I found it quite hard to flex my arm just to take a drink.

    Improvement across the board except with the zottman curls, I found the pump very intense in my brachialis which crippled my performance on the exercise quite a lot. It is possible to attribute this to the AnaBeta-01 because it is extremely rare I won't improve on every exercise in the gym, especially the second session into the new programme with all variables kept the same. I haven't done this programme without the AnaBeta-01 so although it is possible, I could not say for definite that this is causing the crippling pumps. I think it is more than likely to be a factor.

    Looking good while training though. A couple of my friends who I train in the same gym as have given me compliments about looking pumped during and after training. I believe I already look better in the mirror hence me proposing to take a photo half way through this bottle rather than wait to the end as I would be curious to see if anyone else notices a difference.
    Hate those forearm pumps

    Awesome to see that training is going well!

    Progress now would be interesting to see - I definitely believe that you will be able to see it, and again once you have finished AnaBeta-01.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    I'm thinking there is some correlation as I had the same issue with my oly lifts. (back pumps)
    I have stopped reading the other logs except popping into yours on occasion. My back pumps are so extreme I assume it is down to the AnaBeta-01 because I have done routines which were much more lower back dominant and didn't have anywhere near the same problem.

    6 Leg Curls, 12 Cable Pull Throughs, 25 Log Romanian Deadlifts, three times through with two minutes rest at the end of each tri-set. Nothing compared to what it was yesterday.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Hate those forearm pumps

    Awesome to see that training is going well!

    Progress now would be interesting to see - I definitely believe that you will be able to see it, and again once you have finished AnaBeta-01.

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    Strength wise or aesthetics? If people are curious I can post photos up. This log is obviously for the reviews and for other people's benefit more than mine so I am happy to obey reasonable requests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Strength wise or aesthetics? If people are curious I can post photos up. This log is obviously for the reviews and for other people's benefit more than mine so I am happy to obey reasonable requests.
    Photos will only show aesthetic changes. Re strength, if you want, you can make a week-by-week comparison table for the important lifts to show this progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Photos will only show aesthetic changes. Re strength, if you want, you can make a week-by-week comparison table for the important lifts to show this progress.

    ~Rosie~
    I don't mind doing this. I don't actually have any big lifts in this routine so strength gains will be minimal as the TUT on each set lasts between 32 and 48 seconds with each giant set taking between 158 and 222 seconds.

    If people want to see this then I can post them up. Each microcycle lasts 5 days so I can compare workout to workout every 10 days.

    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Lower back pumps can suck! Great sign of anabolic effects though
    I have never heard this from something that wasn't in the anabolics category. Please tell me more.
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    Today was chest and back.

    Every third workout I like to deload with a volume decrease of around 30% to accommodate faster strength increases. This is coupled with an increase in the intensity (true meaning of intensity i.e. 1RM% rather than perceived difficulty. Today I went from 8-12 reps across the board on my giant sets to 6-8.

    Rather than keeping it at three circuits I increased this to four so my planned deload turned into a simple change in the rep/set parameter. I will go back to the three circuits on my fourth and fifth workout.

    The workout was very difficult. I felt nauseous for over an hour after finishing and threw up in my mouth as I was leaving the gym. I am not 100% confident I will be able to do this routine with legs as both of my leg workouts so far have forced me to lie down between sets. I will start with the deload and if I can squeeze in a fourth circuit I shall. Throwing up seems counterintuitive to me as I am getting the calories in to build muscle. If I was aiming for endurance or fat loss then I wouldn't necessarily have the same policy.

    Notes on AnaBeta-01.
    - I have had a few spots on my back recently. I tend to get them as I remove any hair I get from the root so often get spots as it grows back. I think I have more than usual but wouldn't have wondered this if I hadn't read the other logs so take this with a pinch of salt.
    - I am starting to see visible changes in the mirror. I will confirm this in a few days when I do pictures again.
    - Appetite is still high.

    I woke up late this morning and have stayed up to squeeze another meal in (it is 12:50am here now) as I am hungry. I am currently enjoying gluten free pancakes, free range bacon, honey and ghee. Think of it as the lower allergen version of the American classic!
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    Dude...workouts till you puke...I know puking sucks, but I have to applaud your intensity
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    There is no better training edge, especially for the natural athlete- we need all the help we can get!

    I only threw up a tiny bit of food in my mouth as I burped. I didn't push myself to the point of throwing up properly. I think if I do legs with this workout (4 circuits of 6-8 with the same rest periods) then I will probably vomit.

    On that note, legs are supposed to be today. I woke up with the deep external rotators of my hip seized up. If I can't release them with myofascial release then I will do arms today and legs tomorrow.

    Steak and eggs for breakfast is no longer filling enough for this supplement. Yesterday I felt like it had barely touched the sides and luckily some more food was being cooked in my house for a family event so just over an hour later had home made beef meatballs, onion, egg and potato tortilla and wheat free chorizo in tomato sauce with potatoes.

    I stress this to anyone buying the supplement. Make sure you have quick cook food and snacks on hand. I very rarely ever snack on things which couldn't count as a proper meal (meat, fish etc) and sometimes I have felt like I have needed to eat something immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Dude...workouts till you puke...I know puking sucks, but I have to applaud your intensity
    Try this, its a puke maker. The only break you get is to catch your breath. Once you have it back you start again. I nearly vomit each time and have a number of times.

    Superset: heavy squats x8 + jump squats x 12 4 sets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Try this, its a puke maker. The only break you get is to catch your breath. Once you have it back you start again. I nearly vomit each time and have a number of times.

    Superset: heavy squats x8 + jump squats x 12 4 sets.
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    Superset: deadlift x8 + bent row x8 4sets


    To OP. Nice log man. Im following along. Im interested in this product. Im thinking of using it for my bulk if it will clear aussie customs.
    Thank you very much. I am an unknown entity on this site so won't have as many followers as the longer running members. I have a meticulous approach with my training so hopefully that will bring some interest in here.

    Good to have you on board. If you have any questions about the supplement feel free to ask as I go along. I like asking questions and therefore always answer them respectfully when I get them.
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    In for the puking.
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    lol in highschool i ran the original halodrol 50 for 8 weeks with clenbuterol and vodka as pct
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    Quote Originally Posted by morry View Post
    In for the puking.
    I hope I can provide a little more than blatant masochism but welcome aboard anyway.
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    Arms session today, for those who skip to the end page here it is;

    A1) Reverse EZ Scott Curls 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    A2) EZ Scott Curls 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    A3) Scott Zottman Curls 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    A4) Seated Hammer Curls 3-0-1-0 120 seconds

    B1) 45 Degree Incline DB Tricep Extensions 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    B2) Flat Bench DB Tricep Extensions 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    B3) Flat Bench Narrow Grip EZ Extensions 3-0-1-0 10 seconds
    B4) Seated Narrow Grip Overhead EZ Extensions 3-0-1-0 120 seconds

    Reps are usually in the 8-12 range across the board. Today was the third workout so an intended deload day of approximately 30%, I upped the sets to four rather than three so it was not a deload in the end, something experimental.

    I have never incorporated giant sets into a routine other than as a experimental one-off workout.

    It was very hard for me to assess my 1RM continuum and I misjudged the weights on these quite a lot. I increased the weight of A1 and A2 by 20% and hit 8 reps on the first two sets of both. I should have increased it more as ideally I should be forced to drop the weight with each subsequent giant set.


    - Pump was extremely intense, as it has been.
    - Visually I had good vascularity and have been receiving more compliments recently on my physique- very strong start.
    - Appetite is still high. I finished a roast dinner with lamb, potatoes and green beans and felt comfortably full. Within half an hour of finishing I am already hungry. I am going to wait an hour or so and cook another proper meal rather than snacking to fill myself up.

    Legs tomorrow which will be extremely challenging if I go for four circuits.
    PES Representative
    http://pescience.com/insider
    http://selectprotein.com
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