First Log: LG Natadrol

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  1. Day 28: wow its been four weeks...thats gone really fast.

    Off day

    I ****ed up by left lower back last night by the feel of it. I'll need a few days off! I think i may have jarred it on the millitary press. It didn't feel painful at the time, but I nearly lost balance on one rep and had one very awkward movement/rep.

    Nothing much i can do but rest it for a few days and use machines at the gym when i go back this week so i don't have to involve it. That kind of sucks but its better than nothing. I'll streach it and hope for a quick recovery


  2. I saw a physio therapist today to assess damage as it felt like more than a strained back when i woke up thismorning. Ive done some joint injury, and have a damaged muscle that is spasming and pinching a nerve. Ive got to take a few days off and increase my cardio. After a few days i can go back to weights that dont put direct stress on the lower back at 30-50% of my normal load. Then, depending how i feel, increase it 10% each workout thereafter until im back to full steam.

    No basketball until its better. Its a bit of a setback ....but it could have been worse.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    I saw a physio therapist today to assess damage as it felt like more than a strained back when i woke up thismorning. Ive done some joint injury, and have a damaged muscle that is spasming and pinching a nerve. Ive got to take a few days off and increase my cardio. After a few days i can go back to weights that dont put direct stress on the lower back at 30-50% of my normal load. Then, depending how i feel, increase it 10% each workout thereafter until im back to full steam.

    No basketball until its better. Its a bit of a setback ....but it could have been worse.
    Sorry to hear about your injury man. Be VERY careful with the low back. You do not want to permanently damage anything in that area. Rest up!

  4. Thanks man. Yeh, it hurts too much not to take care of it. I'm not normally one to go to a physio or doctor.

    The physio recons it did it from exausting the lower back with deadlifts and bent rows. By the time i was doing millitary presses the lower back was just too exausted to deal with the pressure of stabalising the body. I guess that makes sense.

    I did have some good news today. One of my good freinds got selected to feature in Muscle fitness magasine today after loosing a lot of weight. hes got three weeks to the photoshoot. Im pretty happy for him. He wants to cut up hard though. Im thinking i might get him onto lean extreme just to help him fine tune b4 the shoot.

    anyway, thanks for the kind words.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Thanks man. Yeh, it hurts too much not to take care of it. I'm not normally one to go to a physio or doctor.

    The physio recons it did it from exausting the lower back with deadlifts and bent rows. By the time i was doing millitary presses the lower back was just too exausted to deal with the pressure of stabalising the body. I guess that makes sense.

    I did have some good news today. One of my good freinds got selected to feature in Muscle fitness magasine today after loosing a lot of weight. hes got three weeks to the photoshoot. Im pretty happy for him. He wants to cut up hard though. Im thinking i might get him onto lean extreme just to help him fine tune b4 the shoot.

    anyway, thanks for the kind words.
    That's great news for your friend!

    With your back, like I said just be careful. I severely damaged mine about 5 years ago and it still plagues me. I was out for over a year. If it's all muscular great. If it's in a disc or threatening one then I can't stress enough to be careful. In the long run you'll be much better off.

    Sorry if I sound too doom and gloom it's just that after going through it I hate to see anyone else have that problem. Good luck!
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  6. Day 32: First day back
    Full body excluding back and abs.

    Ive reduced my dose of nata over the last few days back to 6 as i dont think i need the 8 since i cant lift heavy at the moment.

    I did about 50 percent of my normal capacity tonight and it felt ok. I did very slow reps at about 15 percent with minimal pausing at the top and the bottem. I got a good burn. Im sure it will do some good.

    I did seated machine tri extentions x3
    seated calf raise x3
    pec dec x3
    Machine shoulder press x3
    Incline db bicep curls x3
    Reverse incline curls x2
    lateral raises x4

    10 mins cardio at end.

    I am noticing i am getting some vascularity back in my arms. I didnt even have a preworkout drink. Body fat must still be lowering.

  7. day 37: first real day back: ive had a few light sessions in between but nothing worth commenting on.

    Chest shoulders Biceps: dropset on last set of every exersise

    Benchpress x3
    Pecdec x3
    Incline db pressx3
    Machine shoulder press x3
    Side lateral raises x3
    inline db curl x3
    reverse preacherx3
    conentration hammer curls x3

    I was back at full pace. My backs a bit sore today, but pretty good considering. ive also just started my third bottle of Nata. Today will be legs + abs.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    day 37: first real day back: ive had a few light sessions in between but nothing worth commenting on.

    Chest shoulders Biceps: dropset on last set of every exersise

    Benchpress x3
    Pecdec x3
    Incline db pressx3
    Machine shoulder press x3
    Side lateral raises x3
    inline db curl x3
    reverse preacherx3
    conentration hammer curls x3

    I was back at full pace. My backs a bit sore today, but pretty good considering. ive also just started my third bottle of Nata. Today will be legs + abs.
    Glad to see you back at it. Ice that low back tonight before you go to bed. It will help keep it from tightening up overnight.

  9. Thanks bro, good looking out. I did just that and it helped heaps. I then heat packed it when i woke up before work to get it moving.

    Day 38, Legs abs

    I did 1 hour of basketball preceeding the workout for cardio

    I then did 3x

    legpress
    seated calf raises
    lunges
    hamstring curls

    I then did sets of 20 crunches on the ab machine set on 45 kg.

    I didnt go too heavy as a i found a lot of these exersises hurt my back

    Day 39: Tri's and back

    i did 4 x

    T bar rows
    wide lat pulldowns
    close lat pulldowns
    full body dips with 22 pounds attached
    close grip benchpress
    pushdowns
    diamond pushups

    I felt like an absolute beast throughout the whole workout. Im thinking i want to try the trifecta stack now.

    Im going away for easter weekend.

    Im taking a skipping rope with me. I think i'll do 3 mins skipping 5x 50m sprints + 10 burpees and 5 chins each morning. I'll do it in a circuit until l i hit 30 mins. I'll do dips if i can find anything to do them off aswell.

    Have a great easter everyone.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Docmattic View Post
    Thanks bro, good looking out. I did just that and it helped heaps. I then heat packed it when i woke up before work to get it moving.

    Day 38, Legs abs

    I did 1 hour of basketball preceeding the workout for cardio

    I then did 3x

    legpress
    seated calf raises
    lunges
    hamstring curls

    I then did sets of 20 crunches on the ab machine set on 45 kg.

    I didnt go too heavy as a i found a lot of these exersises hurt my back

    Day 39: Tri's and back

    i did 4 x

    T bar rows
    wide lat pulldowns
    close lat pulldowns
    full body dips with 22 pounds attached
    close grip benchpress
    pushdowns
    diamond pushups

    I felt like an absolute beast throughout the whole workout. Im thinking i want to try the trifecta stack now.

    Im going away for easter weekend.

    Im taking a skipping rope with me. I think i'll do 3 mins skipping 5x 50m sprints + 10 burpees and 5 chins each morning. I'll do it in a circuit until l i hit 30 mins. I'll do dips if i can find anything to do them off aswell.

    Have a great easter everyone.
    NP man. Glad to hear it helped.

    I like that "away circuit". It's close to what I do during a cut in the am when I do 2 a days.

  11. Whoa, didn't realize there was a Natadrol log going.

    GREAT progress so far me, the cut pics are looking fantastic. Solid work with diet, glad Natadrol is helping you keep up during the cut. Training looks off the hook too, basketball is great for cardiovascular work. I'd always rather go play an hour of bball than run on the stupid treadmill. Keep up the hard work man, doin Natadrol proud.

  12. Thanks bro.

    I should also note i am down to 187 pounds after hitting 196 (my wieght went up 4.4 pounds at the beginning) at one point in the log.

  13. Day 44, **** not long left now.

    First day back today. I ate **** on the weekend out of a need to feel polite as a guest. Meals with virtually no protien and lots of fast carbs. It sucked balls. I tried to eat very small meals. Hopefully i havn't done too much damage.

    Today i did chest and shoulders did okay. I felt pretty weak with no energy. Hopefully tomorrow goes better.

    I'm changing the workouts up from tomorrow and doing with shorter weight sessions with added cardio. This may mean i will be at the gym efery day but the session will be short. When possible i will do two workouts a day.

    For example
    Tomorrow:
    .
    Morning
    Biceps+20 mins HIIT
    Chins, incline db curl, reverse preacher +cable hammer curl
    Afternoon
    Basketball training 1 hour +
    legs
    squat, lunges, calf raise hamstring curl.

    I'm trying to place a little more emphasis on cardio to try shed this fat i still have left. No preworkout this week as i am preparing for the arrival of MP assault.

  14. Day 45

    Morning
    Biceps+20 mins HIIT
    Chins, incline db curl, reverse preacher +cable hammer curl

    Afternoon
    Basketball training 1 hour +

    Gym: legs
    leg press, lunges, calf raise, hamstring curl.

    I did good today and had good strength. The 2 workout split worked well and all that cardio has to have been good for something.

  15. Day 46 Back (no cardio)

    Machine lat pulldowns x4
    Tbar rows x4
    close grip cable lat pulldowns x4
    Cable rows x4

    I didnt have too much time tonight. that was a good workout and left by back rather sore the next day. I was going to do tris as well but had bball the next day and wanted to be able to shoot.

  16. Day 47: Cardio

    Bball training for 2ish hours
    I had a one on one session with a coach today. Brutal and difficult stuff (fitness wise).

    Then went and sore Naughty by Nature live. It was a shame they didnt start till 130am and i arrived at the venue at 9pm. Their performance itself was off the hook though.

  17. Day 51:

    I had a **** of a weekend with uni work, i did no physical activity. Stress levels way up. Funnily enough the worst thing i had was last night where i had a bottle of beer at 3am to calm me down to sleep. I was fair stressed though so my cort levels will be high.

    Yesterday i smashed out 50 full body dips, 50 chins and 50 pushups on my lunch break, made me feel somewhat better about missing the weekend.

    Today i did a full body workout: I ripped **** up tonight maxing out on every apparatus except ones that could irritate by lower back. I also started on Assault for my preworkout tonight. It lives up to the hype!

    Workout was.

    T-bar rows
    155 pounds 8 reps four sets, double drop set on last set> 130> 88.

    Machine pulldowns
    264 pounds 8 reps four sets, double drop set on last set>220>176

    Bench press (no spot so i couldnt push myself too hard)
    180 pounds x12, x8, x5 dropset 120 pounds on last

    Pec dec
    165 pounds (max) x10 reps 3 sets double drop set on last.

    Milliary press(i had to be careful with these)
    90 pounds x6 3 sets

    Full body dips with 22 pounds
    x2 6 reps
    no weight x2 10 reps

    Incine DB curls
    30 pounds each db
    x10 x8 x8 x8 double dropset on last

    superset with

    Standing lateral raises
    22 pounds
    x10 x10
    Sitting lateral raises
    18 pounds
    x8 x8

    Machine abs.
    99 pounds
    3 sets of 30
    1 set of 120 pounds x 10

    superseted with
    Lat pushdowns
    80 pounds 8 reps 3 sets

    I just counted my pills
    I have 3 days left at 7 per day. then is start PCT. Should i start the formadrol tomorrow and bridge across?

    I will post progress pics in a few days. Then at the end after PCT and lean extreme.

  18. nice log man

  19. Thankyou

  20. day 52:

    No workout today. Big rest day. The workout yesterday and the draining weekend have smashed me. I slept for 12 hours last night without waking once. Today i felt like i was dead. My singing teacher said i looked so tired i looked stoned haha. Getting ready for a big workout again tomorrow night.

  21. Day 53:

    Today ive been hell tired all day. All i want to do is sleep. I even had to have a 45 min sleep at work. I think my workout suffered a little because of this. I crashed 3/4 of the way through and wanted to sleep. I think this weekend will be simply based on sleeping.

    Tonight

    wide grip cable lat pulldown
    150 pounds 10 reps 3 sets

    Seated cable row
    130 pounds 10 reps 3 sets

    Cable crossover
    35 pounds (each side) 4 sets with double dropset on last

    Standing barbell millitary press
    85 pounds x10, 110 pounds x5, 85 pounds x 8

    Seated lateral raise
    18 pounds x10 3 sets

    Bench dips
    90 pounds x12 4 sets dropset (to nothing) on last x20
    Then one nothing x20

    reverse preachers
    55 pounds x10 3 sets

    Incline db curls
    30 pounds x8 3 sets
    Then a 4 set of 6 reps then double drop set to 22 pounds (x5) then 18 pounds (x6)

    Machine crunches
    99 pounds x30 x30 x20 x30

    Not a bad workout by any means

    Last day tomorrow of natadrol and unfortunatly it is an off day. Maybee i'll take like 3 pills tomorrow and push it out for one last day of weights.

    Side effects: over the last few days my nuts are starting to feel a little achy and a touch smaller. Maybee some suppression comming in over the cycle leangth. However It has been getting really cold here for winter. So i cant be sure. I'll have to have a warm shower and confirm haha. And...i dont know if this can be attributed to nata (alphamale feeling maybee) ive had the biggest urge to punch someone in the face and knock themt he **** out! Anyone, and everyone at work....if they piss me off in even the slightest way i visualize knocking them the **** out! Ive kept it under control though. I cant really afford to loose my job. This has been fairly common over the length of the cycle from about day 14.

  22. Day 54: Basktball 1.5 hours

    I then ended up with a migraine for the whole night, including nausia and vomiting. I have a few natadrol tablets left. So, Today (day 55) will be my last day. Hopefully i feel upto a workout later today.

  23. day 55: Full upperbody

    Today was my last day on nata. I start formadrol and lean xtreme tomorrow. I managed to make it to the gym after my miagrane last night. I'm too tired to write out the workout details.

    I did
    4x pec dec
    4x seated machine millitary press
    4x reverse flys x tripushdowns superset
    4 x tbar rows
    6 x incline db curls

    I think i did some other stuff but i cant remember.

    As promised, here are the final pics. I didnt have someone to take them tonight...it was a little difficult.

    I'll post some more after PCT. Ive really enjoyed natadrol though. I'll do a
    review when im not so tired.
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  24. Did you take weight/BF measurements to compare? Reps for log

  25. Yeh Bro,

    I weight myself every morning as soon as i woke up after i had been to the bathroom.
    I started the log out at 189 pounds. At my heaviest point in the log i was was 195 pounds This was after my first bottle of nata-d. I was still in the phase of changing my diet mentality from clean bulk to cut. *Id really love to try nata on bulk because of the results i got eating big on it. My arms each grew half an inch (cold flex) in 3 weeks.

    At my lowest weight i was 185 pounds. This morning i am about 187 pounds.

    My body fat levels were at about 21 percent at the beggining of the log. I had a health check at work just as a i finnished by bulk to inform me of this. THis was measured by scales.4 days ago i got some fat calibers. After taking my measurments i can say i am at about 14% body fat now. My aim is 10%

    I have gone from 36.5 inches to 35.5 around my hips and from 35.5 around my waist to 33. I felt that a lot of my weight didnt come off from my stomach, but looking at the photos. It did.
    I must admit that i did not do a lot of cardio while on natadrol. I think my results would have been a lot more dramatic if i had. My university workload really smashed me over this whole log. Id love to do it again sometime when i had all the time i neeed to do cardio as well.

    REVIEW
    STRENGTH: 10/10 Ive never done roids or ph so i dont know what they are like. But i was on a cut and some days (stupidly) i estimate i would have only ate 1500 calories(if that) I still smashed out PR's in the gym. I think my strengths could have gone up more with the assistance of a training partner. For example on the tbar i felt like i could always lift more. However, Due to my injured lower back i struggled to lift more off the ground but thinki oculd have easily repped it out once i got it up there.

    Recomp effect:
    10/10. FOr the limited cardio i did....look at the pictures....they speak for themselves.

    Side effects 7/10: HOwever, all of these sides were forewarned so i had the appropiate method of treatment available to treat it.

    Were fairly limited. Achne would be the most obvious one, but it wasnt too bad. I already have a great GF who says she didn't care too much about the achne.

    HTPA Suppression:
    Towards the last few days (approaching 8 weeks) i felt like this started. BOys were a bit smaller and ached a bit for no reason.

    Prostate: cant be sure but i may have had slight enlargement. I had a slight sting when i was urinating for a few days (UTI? most of the symptoms pointed at this) and I was really unfomfortable in the intestinal area. One of the main reasons for a UTI could be an enlarged prostate. My dad is very prone to diverticulitis so I believe this was quite posible. I didnt really stress , i took a laxitive to get rid of the germs and upped my saw pallmetto dosage and it went away.I can not be sure this was related to nata though.

    Anger/aggression: Over the last few weeks i have had very high levels of stress. The anger aggression i was getting from nata becomae a little uncontrolable at times. I was ready to flip out and did a few times. Luckily i was by myself at these times (most of the time) because I was at the point where i would have tried to beat someone down . This is not usually like me. Over the wole log i had a large impulse to punch someone in the face when they annoyed me. Again this is not like me ususally. Sure i might think about it, but i wouldnt obcess over it for the next 2 hours haha.

    Size gains: NA
    I didnt gain a lot of size, but i did at the start of the log. If i had continued to eat big i cant imagine how big id be right now.
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