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I was just wondering whats the latest and greatest creatine out there...the last one I tried was green magnitude...also I have been using usp labs prime and pink magic and think they both are bunk!!! any thoughts??
Take a moment to do a SEARCH because this question has been asked over and over lately.I was just wondering whats the latest and greatest creatine out there...the last one I tried was green magnitude...also I have been using usp labs prime and pink magic and think they both are bunk!!! any thoughts??
Thing with Creatine is you have to stick it out for more than 4 weeks to usually see progress.I was just wondering whats the latest and greatest creatine out there...the last one I tried was green magnitude...also I have been using usp labs prime and pink magic and think they both are bunk!!! any thoughts??
Why? Your creatine muscle levels return to baseline in ~3 weeks of not using it, and if you only use for if you cycle off for four weeks after every two weeks of use you're not even allowing your creatine muscle threshold to be reached (since it takes ~3 weeks of 5g a day for creatine muscle threshold to be reached), and therefore may as well NOT be using creatine....Also keep in mind to cycle off for 4 weeks after 2 weeks of sustained creatine usage.
It's 4 weeks, and there are multiple reasons to cycle off creatine occasionally.Why? Your creatine muscle levels return to baseline in ~3 weeks of not using it, and if you only use for if you cycle off for four weeks after every two weeks of use you're not even allowing your creatine muscle threshold to be reached (since it takes ~3 weeks of 5g a day for creatine muscle threshold to be reached), and therefore may as well NOT be using creatine.
The same as creatine loading, creatine cycling is NOT necessary and inadvisable, IMO. Once your creatine muscle threshold is reached - and I do recommend only using ~5g a day for it - 2-3g a day is all one needs to use to maintain them. Creatine can be used CHRONICALLY ON A DAILY BASIS - I've personally used it almost daily for seven years and it has not had any detrimental effect on my body (and yes, I have had the regular bloods to show that).
I suggest that you THINK before making recommendations in the future.
~Rosie~
He said, "...cycle off for 4 weeks after 2 weeks of sustained creatine usage" - if he meant to say "...cycle off for 2 weeks after 4 weeks of sustained creatine usage", then he should have said that.It's 4 weeks, and there are multiple reasons to cycle off creatine occasionally.
I suggest that you THINK before you make blanket recommendations.
Cycling off creatine for two weeks would not reduce intramuscular creatine concentration to baseline. So his post makes just as much sense as your interpretation if not more.He said, "...cycle off for 4 weeks after 2 weeks of sustained creatine usage" - if he meant to say "...cycle off for 2 weeks after 4 weeks of sustained creatine usage", then he should have said that.
My recommendations were not blanket, but based on personal experience, opinion, and science - as I mentioned, "The same as creatine loading, creatine cycling is NOT necessary and inadvisable, IMO." People may have personal reasons to cycle off creatine, but there is no need for it.
I suggest you READ what people write :swordfight:
~Rosie~
Was simply a typo on my side so forgive me. As stated I said you should expect to supp greater than 4 weeks to see results so what I meant to say was 2 months (8 weeks). Many go to to 3 months (12 weeks), but than cycle off 4 and this is widely recommended.Why? Your creatine muscle levels return to baseline in ~3 weeks of not using it, and if you only use for if you cycle off for four weeks after every two weeks of use you're not even allowing your creatine muscle threshold to be reached (since it takes ~3 weeks of 5g a day for creatine muscle threshold to be reached), and therefore may as well NOT be using creatine.
The same as creatine loading, creatine cycling is NOT necessary and inadvisable, IMO. Once your creatine muscle threshold is reached - and I do recommend only using ~5g a day for it - 2-3g a day is all one needs to use to maintain them. Creatine can be used CHRONICALLY ON A DAILY BASIS - I've personally used it almost daily for seven years and it has not had any detrimental effect on my body (and yes, I have had the regular bloods to show that).
I suggest that you THINK before making recommendations in the future.
~Rosie~
Thanks for clearing up the typo.Was simply a typo on my side so forgive me. As stated I said you should expect to supp greater than 4 weeks to see results so what I meant to say was 2 months (8 weeks). Many go to to 3 months (12 weeks), but than cycle off 4 and this is widely recommended.
It is believed taking excess creatine for a short period of time (4-8 weeks) may temporarily increase your creatine phosphate stores but after a while your body's feedback mechanisms will likely place some time of control on creatine phosphate storage to bring the levels back down to normal. This mechanism may be to decrease your body's own production of creatine or to downgrade the number receptors that admit creatine into the cell.
Taking time off from creatine can help bring your body's equilibrium back into a state where in taking excess creatine will be beneficial again. Just to be clear I know of no studies to back this theory up with, it could be right or wrong, I am just merely applying a knowledge of biochemistry to a question to which there is no good answer to yet.
I do read and understand what I read so no need for caps when dealing with me. And I agree this got off track, but a healthy discussion is always a good thing compared to "what is the best creatine" as it provides some support information as well and what i consider to be a healthy discussion right?Thanks for clearing up the typo.
What is your definition of "excess" creatine? Taking creatine (2-3g daily) to maintain your creatine muscle threshold once it is reached would not, IMO be classed as "excess" creatine - using more than 5g of creatine daily once your creatine muscle threshold is reached would be, IMO, using "excess" creatine, since it is more than required.
As I said before, once your creatine muscle threshold (150-160 mmol/kg/dw) has been reached, it cannot be saturated further. Once your creatine muscle threshold has been reached, it can be MAINTAINED at threshold with supplementation of 2-3g of creatine daily (Burke, et al., 2006; Harris, Soderlund & Hultman, 1992).
I've seen no studies mentioning this personal theory of yours, and if it were indeed true, there would have no doubt been many by now.
I think perhaps you mean "external" and not "excess"? Either way, this is way off topic from the question asked by the OP, so I will end my comments in this thread here.
~Rosie~
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