Dropping Fat and Adding Muscle w/ X-Factor Advanced (50 Day Log)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    gotta love getting sore to the touch, looks like one hell of an ab circuit too!
    Yeah, I've always loved the pain of soreness. And this is the first time I've really been significantly sore in ages. The only time I get sore like this is the first few weeks after working out again after a long break.

    As for the abs, hanging leg raises are the only exercise that really make me sore, and that's just the upper abs I just started doing them a couple of months ago when I put a pull-up bar in the doorway. I can't make my lower abs or obliques get sore for anything, regardless of weight or volume.
    50 Day X-Factor Advanced Log
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    Nice! I'm in man!
    At some point, try taking all 4 XFA preWO...I think you'll like the result
    What about the rest of the day? Or do you just use the whole days dose at that one time?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    What about the rest of the day? Or do you just use the whole days dose at that one time?
    yes, on workout days, I use all 4 caps preWO, then none the rest of the day...there's a pretty informative thread (will link it here later) over at bb re: 'maximizing the uptake of Ara in skeletal muscle'...good stuff...

  4. Quote Originally Posted by LJ57 View Post
    Yeah, I've always loved the pain of soreness. And this is the first time I've really been significantly sore in ages. The only time I get sore like this is the first few weeks after working out again after a long break.

    As for the abs, hanging leg raises are the only exercise that really make me sore, and that's just the upper abs I just started doing them a couple of months ago when I put a pull-up bar in the doorway. I can't make my lower abs or obliques get sore for anything, regardless of weight or volume.
    good to read that the 4 cap PreWO working well for ya ...regarding the hanging leg raises, just tossed those in my ab routine last week, had my entire upper/lower abs feeling that for about 4 days...normally can't get sore in the abs upper or lower....loved it!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    yes, on workout days, I use all 4 caps preWO, then none the rest of the day...there's a pretty informative thread (will link it here later) over at bb re: 'maximizing the uptake of Ara in skeletal muscle'...good stuff...
    Interesting. I haven't read this thread. Is the general consensus that 4 caps preWO is better than spacing them out during the day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ57 View Post
    Interesting. I haven't read this thread. Is the general consensus that 4 caps preWO is better than spacing them out during the day?
    indeed it is.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    yes, on workout days, I use all 4 caps preWO, then none the rest of the day...there's a pretty informative thread (will link it here later) over at bb re: 'maximizing the uptake of Ara in skeletal muscle'...good stuff...
    Okay cool. Hey whats the prefered Xfactor to use? the origianl one or the Advanced version?
    Primordial Performance
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by rulk22 View Post
    Okay cool. Hey whats the prefered Xfactor to use? the origianl one or the Advanced version?
    I've only tried the XFA, I think generally more people (from what I've read) prefer the advanced due to the lack of sides (joint aches/increased DOMS) from the added omega 3/bosweila (sp?) and still achieve great results...then a handful of people that want to keep anything anti-inflammatory seperate from the supposed Inflammatory response that Ara gives that's believed to be the major moa of it...
    ...and fyi...here's the link I spoke about...

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=119490141

    Edit: plus depending on where you bought it from, the XFA hits the wallet slightly less for a 50 day run, in that you only need 2 bottles...as opposed to XF you'd need 3 bottles...

  9. Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    I've only tried the XFA, I think generally more people (from what I've read) prefer the advanced due to the lack of sides (joint aches/increased DOMS) from the added omega 3/bosweila (sp?) and still achieve great results...then a handful of people that want to keep anything anti-inflammatory seperate from the supposed Inflammatory response that Ara gives that's believed to be the major moa of it...
    ...and fyi...here's the link I spoke about...

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=119490141

    Edit: plus depending on where you bought it from, the XFA hits the wallet slightly less for a 50 day run, in that you only need 2 bottles...as opposed to XF you'd need 3 bottles...
    This is pretty much exactly how I always answer the question, XFA eliminates the sides making it very user friendly. Some find they respond better to Advanced as far as gains go, others prefer the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by schizm View Post
    I've only tried the XFA, I think generally more people (from what I've read) prefer the advanced due to the lack of sides (joint aches/increased DOMS) from the added omega 3/bosweila (sp?) and still achieve great results...then a handful of people that want to keep anything anti-inflammatory seperate from the supposed Inflammatory response that Ara gives that's believed to be the major moa of it...
    ...and fyi...here's the link I spoke about...

    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=119490141

    Edit: plus depending on where you bought it from, the XFA hits the wallet slightly less for a 50 day run, in that you only need 2 bottles...as opposed to XF you'd need 3 bottles...
    Couldn't have said it any better. Big Tim likes the original and I am getting ready to try my 1st log with XF. Really love the XFA so i'm looking forward to the comparison.

  11. Thanks for the info! I'll be strictly dosing 4 caps pre-WO from here on out.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by LJ57 View Post
    Thanks for the info! I'll be strictly dosing 4 caps pre-WO from here on out.
    excellent, cant wait to see how it treats you!

  13. I have been having some killer sinus/allergy problems lately which has sapped my energy...just from the drastic weather changes I guess. I went ahead and hit chest and back today despite the low energy. Fortunately, strength was good despite feeling like hell. 4 cap PWO. Now to see what kind of soreness I get this time...

    Chest and Back

    Weighted push ups - 5 sets of 10 w/ 50lb backpack
    DB flyes - 4 sets of 8-10 w/ 45lbs
    Push ups (no weights) - 1 set to failure

    DB Rows - 4 sets of 12 w/ 50lbs
    Pullup negatives - 4 sets of 12-15
    Barbell shrugs - 4 sets of 12-15 w/ 110lbs
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  14. great volume and weights for going into the lift with low energy!

  15. The soreness this time has not been as bad. I'm thinking the XFA hasn't made me significantly much more sore than usual. I think maybe I just pushed really hard with the last chest (as well as arms) workout and automatically attributed it to XFA.

    I *definitely* see the muscle hardness people talk about, though, and I am certain it's not something I could attribute to other factors. And I'm now taking 4 caps at a time on both training and off days.

    Although I haven't been increasing the lbs. of weight I use recently, I feel like strength is up. And I'm never eating above maintenance-level calories, so under other conditions I would expect to lose some strength.
    50 Day X-Factor Advanced Log
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by LJ57 View Post
    The soreness this time has not been as bad. I'm thinking the XFA hasn't made me significantly much more sore than usual. I think maybe I just pushed really hard with the last chest (as well as arms) workout and automatically attributed it to XFA.

    I *definitely* see the muscle hardness people talk about, though, and I am certain it's not something I could attribute to other factors. And I'm now taking 4 caps at a time on both training and off days.

    Although I haven't been increasing the lbs. of weight I use recently, I feel like strength is up. And I'm never eating above maintenance-level calories, so under other conditions I would expect to lose some strength.
    for me the hardness, density and fullness to my muscles is o incredibly apparent that no other product works for recomping quite like ArA/X-Factor.

  17. Cals at maintenance and strength is going up. That's a good sign of ArA working it's course.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by fitcopforlife View Post
    Cals at maintenance and strength is going up. That's a good sign of ArA working it's course.
    absolutely, there are only a handful of ingredients Ive used that have noticeable results without making any changes to my diet, arachidonic acid is certainly one of them.

  19. Threw a high rep arm workout day in, something I don't do very often these days.

    Barbell curls - 4 sets of 10 reps w/60 lbs
    Concentration curls - 3 sets of 12 w/ 25lbs
    Hammer curls - 3 sets of 15 w/ 25 lbs

    Tricep Pressdowns - 4 sets of 12-15 (close to failure at end) w/ 75 lbs
    Lying Tri extension - 4 sets of 15 w/ 60lbs

    Hit abs at the end and discovered a new muscle that I have apparently never worked. I decided to do 'bicycles' instead of leg raises for lower abs. The burn in that "adonis belt" region was intense, and I'm pretty sure I will be sore there for the first time ever. I've never used this exercise and have never really worked that muscle before. I may eliminate leg raises now.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by LJ57 View Post
    Threw a high rep arm workout day in, something I don't do very often these days.

    Barbell curls - 4 sets of 10 reps w/60 lbs
    Concentration curls - 3 sets of 12 w/ 25lbs
    Hammer curls - 3 sets of 15 w/ 25 lbs

    Tricep Pressdowns - 4 sets of 12-15 (close to failure at end) w/ 75 lbs
    Lying Tri extension - 4 sets of 15 w/ 60lbs

    Hit abs at the end and discovered a new muscle that I have apparently never worked. I decided to do 'bicycles' instead of leg raises for lower abs. The burn in that "adonis belt" region was intense, and I'm pretty sure I will be sore there for the first time ever. I've never used this exercise and have never really worked that muscle before. I may eliminate leg raises now.
    high rep arm days are always a great idea, the abdominal region is so intricate and often times when I do new movements I can get burnt out quick and quite sore!

  21. Bicycles ouch, I haven't done those in a while. Good idea. Great core movement.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by fitcopforlife View Post
    Bicycles ouch, I haven't done those in a while. Good idea. Great core movement.
    been a good year since Ive done those myself, I tend to keep ab work relatively simple but I know it would only be of benefit to branch out and push myself in ab training the way i do in heavy pressing movements and such.

  23. I'm taking an extra day off due to soreness. Between weight training and cardio (with a small rebounding trampoline), I am sore in the thighs, calves and arms right now.

    I'm switching my whole program up to high reps, slightly lower volume for one week just to fully recover and give my body a change up. The more I read up on incorporating higher reps, the more it seems like a good idea : blood vessels, capillary density, etc.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by SwolenONE View Post
    been a good year since Ive done those myself, I tend to keep ab work relatively simple but I know it would only be of benefit to branch out and push myself in ab training the way i do in heavy pressing movements and such.
    I sometimes think I put too much emphasis on abs at my current level, since I'm still a good ways off from really having visible abs. It will take a good 2-3 month cut before mine really start to show. On the bright side, I can *feel* that I have well-developed abs at this point, but can't see them.
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  25. Shoulders and Abs

    *high rep day*

    DB shoulder press - 4 sets of 12-15 w/30lbs
    side lateral raises - 4 sets of 15 w/ 15lbs

    Abs
    Bicycle crunches - 4 sets
    hanging leg raises - 4 sets
    seated ab twists - 4 sets

    Notes : Ab punishment again with bicycles. These still burn like no other ab exercise I've done.

    I am noticing a definite increase in vascularity despite being at a relatively high bf%. This is especially noticeable now in the wrists and forearms, biceps, and front delts!

    Strength and endurance still way up despite the fact that I have been suffering through the sinus/allergies that go with the March/April weather changes. I am sniffling and with watery eyes right now-- and even have some sinus congestion but strength is not suffering at all.

    I think all of the XFA effects have kicked in now and with no side effects. Joints feel perfectly fine at 4 per day.
    50 Day X-Factor Advanced Log
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/170653-dropping-fat-adding.html
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