Time to Rok with Ragnarok
- 01-05-2011, 10:14 AM
Time to Rok with Ragnarok
I will start the use of Rag when my next training week begins, which will be friday.
Im 19, 178lbs in the morning as of today. Ive used Jacked, Jack3d, Pre-surge, Pre-surge unleashed, Mesomorph, The old Rag, Maximize V2, Lit-up, RPM, Vasocharge, White Flood and a few more pre's. Ill try to make comparisons.
Day 4-Overhead Press
280g Pro/Carbs very depending on day/90-100g Fats
Goals, strength and preformance. That is it, idc about the pump and to much pump hinders my preformance to see how this treats me. Im always looking for strength producing products.
I will try to rate the product on:
Taste, Focus/Intensity, Strength, Pump, Endurance
I will log my remaining workouts till friday without Rag to just get it started.
Btw i tried the SomGH sample i get with the package last night, it kept me up till about 4 a.m. and i took it at 12. Im extremely skeptical as of now so lets see if this can prove its self.
- 01-05-2011, 10:16 AM
Day 0 1/4/11
10min Warm-up cardio/stretching
15min soccer field sprints, sprint down walk back
10min Cool-down cardio/stretching
2 sets of 10 reps Squat form work
Overall good session, Rag starts soon. It will be replacing my use of Superpump max and Lit-up, i will continue my intra-wo nutrition which is making a huge difference in my sessions.
- 01-05-2011, 01:05 PM
in for the log, good luck!
01-05-2011, 10:12 PM
Day 0 1/5/11
Deadlift Day Wave A
5min Warm-up Cardio
A. Conv Deads
85%-380x6 no straps/chalk Rep PR, 380x2 with strapped
B. Walking DB Lunges
C. Glute Ham Raises
Body Weight with a pushx8
D. Seated Calf Raises
E. Led Raises
10min Cool-down Cardio
Overall good session, kinda overtrained and pulling the volume back a lil, rag starts friday
01-06-2011, 12:24 AM
01-06-2011, 09:22 AM
01-06-2011, 10:24 AM
01-06-2011, 12:57 PM
The real fun starts tomorrow guys! Is there any reason i can not add 1.5g ALCAR to this as this is a staple supp for me, if it would benifit a pure review ill just take it first thing in the morning
01-06-2011, 03:01 PM
hell yeah can't wait!! I want to see your comparison with maximize V2, cuz that one was my comparison and you will be surprised like I was hahah.
01-06-2011, 03:40 PM
Yea ive used the old rag before ultra so i will see, im not a fan of 1,3 dimeth products but i will compare to maximize v2, pre-surge unleashed, and lit-up as they were my favs out of the bunch
01-07-2011, 06:44 PM
Nothing to report other then i need to increase my cals big time!
Bench Day 1/7/11 Day 1 Rag
5min Warm-up Cardio, Rotator Pre-hab, Pull-downs focusing on scapular retraction, i have an injured AC joint and this is my biggest issue in my training
A. Flat Bench
B.Incline DB Press+Rear Delt Raises
D.Dead Stop Laterals+OH Press Shrugs
E.Rope Pushdowns+Hammer Pause Curls
10min Cool-down Cardio
Notes: This session took way to long and the krok rows didnt feel right since scapular contraction is the main point of the excersise and my AC joint was having issues. Also after my main lift i felt very week on everything else, I will not say it was Ragnoroks fault but that of my diet. I never realized how demanding powerlifting was and with conditioning i dont believe 3500 cals is enough. Any tips on how to lower overall volume would be great.
Very yummy and i like the combo of sucralose and stevia, covers the negatives of one another. I would say this reminds me of...actually i havent had a good blueraspberry in awhile so its just yummy to me haha
I wasnt there today at all, prob from the heavy work load and lack of cals creating an overtrained environment.
On par with the schedule, i got exactly what i expected to get, rag did not change that.
I was sluggish and had long rest periods today, again ill try to say lack of cals was the killer.
Again not enough cals can create flat muscles, no pump product can fix diet.
Overall: Not what i was expecting, but again this is day one, i hope it only gets better with time.
This is not the same as maximize what so ever, maximize had my on full charge even with lack of cals, which again i believe is BAD, since i can falsly believe my diet is working when in turn the stims are just amping me up creating more overtraining because i havent fixed the issue, only masked it.
Need tips on diet to be able to eat more CLEAN food guys!
01-07-2011, 10:46 PM
can you post up a sample diet day? I can help you out there and im sure many others will chime in as well
01-08-2011, 03:18 PM
Wake-up: 5g BCAA
1hr later Meal 1:
5 whole eggs, 3 egg whites
1 cup oats
8oz Red Potatoes
3/4 cup Black Beans
2 Cups Brocolli
1 Scoop Intra-bolic
1/2 Scoop SizeOn MP
8oz Red Potatoes
3/4 cup Black Beans
2 Cups Brocolli
1 med Green Apple
1/2 Cup Greek Yogurt
4 Tbsp Naturally More PB
2 Tbsp Sugarfree Fiber Jam
2 Slices Eziekel Bread
8oz 96/4 Beef
1/2 Green Pepper, 1/2 Red Pepper, 1/2 Onion
1 Tbsp EVO
01-08-2011, 07:39 PM
Squat Day 1/8/11 Day 2 Rag
5min Warm-up Cardio with dynamic stretches for the low back, hams, quads
A. Low Bar Squat
90-315x6, pausex1, pausex3 PR on depth for the reps obtained, all below parallel
B. Leg Press
4 plates each sidex12
5 plates each sidex12
7 plates each sidex10, drop to 4 plates each sidex10 PR for weight and depth of Leg Press now that i understand FULL ROM for this movement, i rarely do these
70+Bodyx10 PR on weight
D. Standing Calf Raises
E. Abs Circuit
Double Crunch, Leg Raises, Side Crunches
10min Cool-down Cardio, Stretching
Overall Fantastic Session! I was pretty tired from having a cough that interupted my sleep all night and having to work this morning but killed it anyways. I cheated last night to bring my overall cals/carbs up to try and fill out my drained body. Overall it helped ALOT! Powerlifting is a totally different beast from Bodybuilding and requiring more cals. My cals yesterday equaled about 290 pro/500 carbs/100g fats. Im not sure if leg pressing translates to squats/deads but my low back was burned out from the heavy squats so i wanted to hammer my quads but take some pressure off my low back, i normally follow squats up with Oly Back/Front Squats. Rag kinda helped today, overall the stim kick was very needed for tonights session. Pumps/strength/endurance are all on par with how i was progressing before rag so nothing new to report there, overall good focus and tunnel vision to get the session done with no crap added in!
Overall rating for today: 5/10
01-10-2011, 04:07 PM
well, the rag should really start kickin for you.
you dosing 1 scoop or a little more?
01-10-2011, 09:17 PM
Its on scoop as of now, i dont go over the recommended dosage...thats why it recommended in my opinion lol
10min warm up cardio/stretching
15min field sprints, gonna start really paying attention and try to improve on these!
10min cool down cardio/stretching
Rag i tried 1/2 scoop before and 1/2 scoop during with 1 scoop intrabolic...not my cup of tea but i suggest others try this!
Overall rating for the day 7 out 10...getting better with time as i expected
I had a bout of insomnia last night and didnt get much sleep and i took a shift at another store to help and so with classes starting today and getting everything situated there and having to drive 45min to work i just couldnt hit the gym...gym schedule will be a lil off for about a week because of work and school and getting the days down i can most consitently hit the gym since my work schedule is never the same week to week, it will most likely be thurs, fri, sat, sun, mon, tues, wed off or similar tho
01-11-2011, 12:37 PM
Well, increasing to 1.25 might work better for you
01-11-2011, 08:54 PM
After 2 weeks if you arent seeing substantial increases, i'd say to try more than 1 scoop. Until then, if you stick to 1, I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised how it kicks in for you.
01-15-2011, 01:41 PM
srry about no updates guys, i lost internet for a few days. Some stuff goin on at home, will up date later today with all of the missed workouts and thoughts! thank god i keep a workout log book
01-18-2011, 01:41 PM
lookin forward to the updates!
01-20-2011, 07:42 AM
01-21-2011, 10:00 AM
01-26-2011, 10:28 PM
16 days since the last update....please help us out and explain. I completely get net problems, but over 2 weeks is a bit much.
03-20-2011, 08:40 PM
Ok well ive finally gotten everything back into the swing of things.
So its time for me to finish this log up. Ill continue where it was left off.
Sorry to MST.
I lost internet for 2 weeks due to finacial troubles, on top of that i was getting blood drawn 3 times a week for hormonal tests.
In the end i ended up on TRT at 20.
So starting tomorrow i will add Rag into my workouts for my pre.
Again im very sorry MST
03-21-2011, 10:25 PM
5/3/1 Wave A
Bench-50% 1RM Explosive 1min rest
Incline DB Press Paused 1min rest
Chins+Barbell Cheat Curls+Pushdowns+Flys
Chins+BB Cheat Curls
Overall productive session, main goal was chest with heavy bis and light back and tris. Rag help produce a better pump today.
03-22-2011, 11:31 AM
thanks for getting this rolling again
03-22-2011, 02:28 PM
yea man, there was no way i wasnt gonna finish this. I owe it to you guys.
03-23-2011, 10:38 PM
30min Jogging to not overly work legs.
Squats 5/3/1 Wave A
Notes: Another productive session, hitting pr's every lift right now, stuff produces a good pump.
03-25-2011, 02:53 PM
nice job on the pr, 325 x 7 is good stuff!
03-25-2011, 10:04 PM
My legs were beyond sore from my squat day so i opted to a 20min tempo run.
Oh Press 5/3/1
Oh Press standing
Close Grip Bench Press + DB Hammer Curls
Oh Press Standing-50% 1RM explosive
75x9 (tris and delts were beyond pumped)
Bent Over Laterals
Bodyx7, 7, 7, 7/Bodyx3, 2, 1, 1
Side Laterals Dead Stop
Lying DB Extensions+DB Curls
These last two sessions were very productive, this product provides a clean pump. Then energy and endurance is perfect for cardio. Overall id recommend this to anyone that needs an all in one pre.
03-27-2011, 06:15 PM
3/26/11-Off had to work a double and needed the day to just not lift/condition
Deadlift 5/3/1 Wave A
85%-405x4 grip gave out, 5 straped no rest=total 9 reps, PR
Box Squats-65% 1RM+Chins, 6 sets of 4 explosive
205x4/Bodyx5 (This fried my upper back like you wouldnt believe)
Bent Over Barbell Row, 5 sets of 10-12
135x10, 8, 8, 8, 8 (May need to change this as everything was so fatigued it hurt to just sit in the correct position lol)
Shrugs+Leg Curls-3 sets 10-12
Leg Raises-5 sets 10-20
Notes: I was so excited for this session! i killed the deads with some good form compared to my form as of late. Overall this session showed me my weak points for Squats/Deads. My grip/upper back/hams are my weak points. So ill be making sure on Squat/Dead lift day to hit these groups hard. Im thinking of doing:
Squat day: Glute Ham Raises, Selkow Chins, Box Squats, possibly hypers
Deadlifts day: Leg Curls, Box Squats, Selkow Chins, Rows, Shrugs
Any suggestions welcome! I have 5 days in between Squats and Deads btw.
Rag gave me som sick pumps today and just put me in the zoneeeee.
But endurance needs to be worked on, rag helps but ill start to step my conditioning up to help too.
Bench, maybe add some conditioning here?
Oh Press mayeb add some conditioning here?
trying to avoid doing hard sprints and what not before leg sessions to i cant hit those hard.
03-28-2011, 10:56 AM
weights are impressive bro, good stuff!
03-28-2011, 12:39 PM
thanks man, im workin, rag helps too as its my only performance based supp im using atm with bulk bcaa
03-29-2011, 05:51 PM
Starting to step this up a lil
Bench day 5/3/1
Goals: Heavy chest/heavy bis/Light tris/Light Delts
90%-240x3 PR, shoulder was buggin me a lil
Bench Press-50% 1RM explosive 1min rest
Incline DB Press
Dead Bench-Tryin this out today with 50% 1RM
135x6 (Will replace my regular Bench Press 50% with Dead bench as my weakest point is out of the whole right now)
Barbell Cheat Curls
V-bar Pushdowns-Light not to failure
DB flys+Rear Laterals/Rows
Notes: Holy pump, i was balooned up today, good session, need to really get my pressing power up, but its coming over time. Rag gave me the kick i needed today as it was a hecktic day overall
04-01-2011, 01:05 AM
Box Squats+Chins, 50% 1RM Explosive
Glute Ham Raises+Hammer High Row
Standing Calf Raises
Notes: This session was WAY to long, i got some tips from a powerlifter at my gym that i was use in my training for now
Oh Press Day
Close Grip Press+Bis
That will be the skeletons of my overall workouts, things will change depending on feel for the day and i may add other things as i see fit.
04-02-2011, 10:56 AM
might have missed it, but what are the waves in your training?
good stuff and the numbers look good!
04-02-2011, 03:44 PM
the waves are:
Wave A: 65%/75%/85% 1RMx5
Wave B: 70%/80%/90% 1RMx3
Wave C: 75%x5/85%x3/95%x1
Wave D: 40%/50%/60% 1RMx5
Then i add 10lbs to all my maxes and go from there
Split is an EOD lifting split so there is 5 days between each bodypart and a do conditioning after a Leg day before an Upper day right now.
Btw just wanted to let you guys know the Rag is a lil over half way gone, the energy is still there so no tolerance build up from what i can tell and i do 1 scoop before all my sessions.
04-02-2011, 08:04 PM
15min HIIT, football field sprints
Oh Press 5/3/1
Close-grip Bench+DB Hammer Curls
Overhead Kettleball Ext+Dead Stop Laterals
Ok idk what happened with this session, lack of cals? Cns fatigue? Both? But i couldnt get in the grove today. I was pretty amped for this session, could have been the HIIT as that usually has me feelin this way, BUT the rag helped me still achieve some kind of pump and a lil extra kick just to pull off a nice workout. Some tips could help.
04-03-2011, 07:53 PM
did you develop these waves or is it a concept you are using?
04-03-2011, 10:06 PM
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