Swole HghPro with some added Insanity...you've gotta see this..

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah it's very solid and I was tempted to run it myself, my current diet is really not that far off with a couple of adjustments then that's what I would be doing, which I may do in stage 2.

    The Fish Veal diet comes from Marshall Page an it's more about the last 3 weeks of prep. The diet I was talking about involves low carbs, fairly low fat, high protein and tons of vegtables. I hardly has to make an adjustment to this diet and I lost quickly right up to the end. I did however increase cardio. This is also from Marshall. Bassically have your carbs come from fibrous vegtables. It's pretty nasty but it works. I used Snags Gratefruit beef diet near the end cuz I was behind. I probably should have eaten more beef.
    I remember you doing the veal part of your diet from your last competition, seems like something reserved for near the end of a competition prep for sure since you have to be committed to follow that. The NAD that Chris is talking about I am running now and have plenty of energy without any additional stims (outside of my coffee and pwo). No issues with strength except on day two as my body adjusted to the lower cals. I still am taking a post workout isolate shake so that is an extra ~110 cals but it is solely for recovery as I am supp free right now and I need all the help I can get!


  2. Good stuff, yeah the HST is great to help with a cut but it is designed for growth and continued growth at that. Repeated cycles keeps the progress going in an upward direction.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Good stuff, yeah the HST is great to help with a cut but it is designed for growth and continued growth at that. Repeated cycles keeps the progress going in an upward direction.
    Yah I like switching things up more. I want to go to another muscle saturation on my Turinbol/Androhard/S4 run then back into some heavier weight during PCT but by that time I should be getting pretty lean so I will have to watch what exercises I use. I Plan on using Ostarine during PCT as well so this should help some with strength.

  4. Oh yea! Let the games go on

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    Oh yea! Let the games go on

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    Hey Mike ... yah fun and games lol

  6. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Vestatility is key, I have been using it off and on for a while. It's great when your joints are sore too. Lets you crawl before your ready to walk in that respect but don't kid yourself the 15's will have you sucking wind....
    No doubt!!!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    No doubt!!!
    Yah not looking forward to Front squats tonight, I forgot to mention I am going below paralell, pretty much as low as I can go from a wide stance and it's really stretching my inner thghs...

    Diet is right on track... no worries. I will be introducing OEP and T2 after this run and the heavy BCAA use will begin. This will all begin around my next cycle which is going to be a mega hardening/cut... gonna be nuts.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah not looking forward to Front squats tonight, I forgot to mention I am going below paralell, pretty much as low as I can go from a wide stance and it's really stretching my inner thghs...

    Diet is right on track... no worries. I will be introducing OEP and T2 after this run and the heavy BCAA use will begin. This will all begin around my next cycle which is going to be a mega hardening/cut... gonna be nuts.
    You are not going to use OEP on your cycle are you Doug? I assume not or are you running that before the cycle to lean up then continue with the good stuff?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    You are not going to use OEP on your cycle are you Doug? I assume not or are you running that before the cycle to lean up then continue with the good stuff?
    I really hadn't decided, why is it not good to run on cycle I am not well versed in cycling things like this. If not yah I will have to start as soon as it comes in. and stop during cycle and would not use it during PCT for sure. I plan to load up the BCAA's on cycle also this is a cut.

  10. Last night went very well, I am already back in pretty good shape... that didn't take long. I was much stronger and had better endurance.

    One problem I am having with front squats... I can't seem to postion the bar without cutting off some of my air flow. I couldn't figure it out and then after I was done I thought what has changed since I last did front squats... My chest got bigger. I may have to carry the bar a bit lower somehow.

    I weighed in because I know I've already lost some water weight ... 245 which is 2 lbs less than before Xmas. You can already see that my waist is smaller also...
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I really hadn't decided, why is it not good to run on cycle I am not well versed in cycling things like this. If not yah I will have to start as soon as it comes in. and stop during cycle and would not use it during PCT for sure. I plan to load up the BCAA's on cycle also this is a cut.
    Many run into blood pressure problems with stims and running a cycle. The good news is we have products like AT-2 and the new HEAT Stack that are cycle friendly and will work great for you. I am seriously considering running the HEAT stack while I do my cycle as it is non-stim and with Epi should really aid in fat destruction . As with anything, it is really based on how you respond so you may be able to run OEP/AT-2 on cycle with no issue and others couldn't touch it.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Last night went very well, I am already back in pretty good shape... that didn't take long. I was much stronger and had better endurance.

    One problem I am having with front squats... I can't seem to postion the bar without cutting off some of my air flow. I couldn't figure it out and then after I was done I thought what has changed since I last did front squats... My chest got bigger. I may have to carry the bar a bit lower somehow.

    I weighed in because I know I've already lost some water weight ... 245 which is 2 lbs less than before Xmas. You can already see that my waist is smaller also...
    Doug you have to look like a beast right now at 245 and relatively lean. I can't wait to see what happens when you are down around 220 and carrying the same amount of muscle, if not more after this gargantuan stack you are running!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Many run into blood pressure problems with stims and running a cycle. The good news is we have products like AT-2 and the new HEAT Stack that are cycle friendly and will work great for you. I am seriously considering running the HEAT stack while I do my cycle as it is non-stim and with Epi should really aid in fat destruction . As with anything, it is really based on how you respond so you may be able to run OEP/AT-2 on cycle with no issue and others couldn't touch it.
    I don't think Turin and Androhard will give me much in the way of blood preasure issues, that aside the products I run during cycle will have heavy duty recomp value. It may be a better bang for my buch to run the diet supps now and I should have enough T2 to run through cycle or through a lot of it.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Doug you have to look like a beast right now at 245 and relatively lean. I can't wait to see what happens when you are down around 220 and carrying the same amount of muscle, if not more after this gargantuan stack you are running!
    I don't know if I would call myself lean but I am definitely not fat. My abs always show very early so sometimes it's hard to tell...I will be quite lean come April 25th though. I am hoping for 215 or lower.

  15. got a show coming up or making sure you are real lean by April 25th?
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton View Post
    got a show coming up or making sure you are real lean by April 25th?
    I am considering the Online contest Need2 is throwing..

  17. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I am considering the Online contest Need2 is throwing..
    You will do very well I am sure.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    You will do very well I am sure.
    Yah I got the go ahead from Mike, will try and get the before pics up this weekend. Not going to be pretty, I'm all hairy and white as a ghost but the idea is to look bad so the improvements look better.

  19. Good workout last night my legs took a pounding on front squats but they're not sore today. I feel really good, revitalized. There is definitely some high test going down as I feel very primal and libido is just ridiculous. The Prime kind of keeps me in check, calms me a bit. That's a good thing...

    Weights are still fairly low but I know how to make light weight hurt. I enjoy taking a lighter weight and just concentrating on getting the best possible contraction, you know when the muscles really start to ache and you push it even further...

    Weighed in at just under 244 so 3 lbs down after the first 5 days. I will lose another 3 probably this week as I am still losing some water.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Good workout last night my legs took a pounding on front squats but they're not sore today. I feel really good, revitalized. There is definitely some high test going down as I feel very primal and libido is just ridiculous. The Prime kind of keeps me in check, calms me a bit. That's a good thing...

    Weights are still fairly low but I know how to make light weight hurt. I enjoy taking a lighter weight and just concentrating on getting the best possible contraction, you know when the muscles really start to ache and you push it even further...

    Weighed in at just under 244 so 3 lbs down after the first 5 days. I will lose another 3 probably this week as I am still losing some water.
    I am looking forward to seeing where you are at this weekend Doug. I am sure you are much thicker and leaner then last year at this time when you were around the same weight.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I am looking forward to seeing where you are at this weekend Doug. I am sure you are much thicker and leaner then last year at this time when you were around the same weight.
    I am bigger by about 12 lbs and maybe slightly leaner as well. I sort of took a nose dive around Xmas...

    Problem was I was getting away with too much when I was on cycle and when I want off I had a hard time dieting properly.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I am bigger by about 12 lbs and maybe slightly leaner as well. I sort of took a nose dive around Xmas...

    Problem was I was getting away with too much when I was on cycle and when I want off I had a hard time dieting properly.
    The difference between your nose dive and others is you know how to dial it back in very quickly and lose what you gained in a matter of weeks. This is what you need to be doing to the fat:

  23. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    The difference between your nose dive and others is you know how to dial it back in very quickly and lose what you gained in a matter of weeks. This is what you need to be doing to the fat:
    Yes that is so and that plan is well in motion.

  24. Another good workout in the books. I started using wraps for me knees as I am up to 165X 15 for front squats. Remember these are as deep as I can take them wide stance, they're brutual...

    I can't wait till 15's are done, on the plus side I am feeling pretty fit.

    My diet pills should be in this week OEP and Alpha-T2, I will start with one of each am and pm and move to 2 and 1 of OEP and 1 and 2 of Alpha-T2..

  25. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Another good workout in the books. I started using wraps for me knees as I am up to 165X 15 for front squats. Remember these are as deep as I can take them wide stance, they're brutual...

    I can't wait till 15's are done, on the plus side I am feeling pretty fit.

    My diet pills should be in this week OEP and Alpha-T2, I will start with one of each am and pm and move to 2 and 1 of OEP and 1 and 2 of Alpha-T2..
    Give it hell DW.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Give it hell DW.
    I'm willing to go to any lengths at that makes me very dangerous....

  27. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I'm willing to go to any lengths at that makes me very dangerous....

    a man on a mission is a dangerous thing indeed!
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    a man on a mission is a dangerous thing indeed!
    Got that right...

    Got my diet supps and took the first dose of OEP and Alpha-T2 one of each and I feel swell...I have definitely lost around my waist already ...

  29. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I'm willing to go to any lengths at that makes me very dangerous....
    That I have no doubt about.
  

  
 

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