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  1. Pulling ahead of my workout partners


    Preface
    When I first started O-lifting with my partner, Dusty, his Olympic Snatch was actually stronger then mine. We were able to manage the same amount of weight, but he was able to pull more reps, by 1 or 2, which in bodybuilding terms seems negligible, but to put it in a relatable perspective, someone who can hit your 1RM for one or three more reps then you makes that someone's strength/power significantly superior.

    Since I've started my CN/Meso stack, we were about dead even for 1 or 2 sessions and today, I was able to hit weight he couldn't on the Snatch and the Cleans. With these 1-3-5 reps bursts movements, creatine (and simple sugars) would be the shining star and today, it certainly shown. I'll do a comparison of me and Dusty, to show the difference in our progression and keep in mind, he used to have greater power and was the alpha male as far as O-lifts were concerned.

    Olympic Hang Snatch

    Me: 95lbs x 5 reps
    Dusty: 95lbs x 5 reps

    Me: 135lbs x 4 reps (+1 PR)
    Dusty: 135lbs x fail

    Me: 145lbs x 4 reps (+1 PR)
    Dusty: 135lbs x 3 reps

    Me: 150lbs x 2 reps (+1 PR)
    Dusty: 140lbs x 2 reps

    Me: 150lbs x 1 rep
    Dusty: 145lbs x fail

    Olympic Hang Cleans

    Me: 135lbs x 5 reps
    Dusty: 135lbs x 5 reps

    Me: 185lbs x 3 reps
    Dusty: 185lbs x 3 reps

    Me: 195lbs x 3 reps
    Dusty: 195lbs x 3 reps

    Me: 205lbs x 3 reps (+2 PR)
    Dusty: 205lbs x 2 reps

    I stopped keeping track at this point because these are the two lifts we consistently open O-lifts day with. In the O-lifts world, 1 or 2 extra reps is serious business, you can relate it to competing at 1RM ranges, and when someone out performs your 1RM by a rep or 2, its not a little thing.

    Jerk Press [aka Standing Military Power Press]
    135lbs x 5 reps
    155lbs x 5 reps
    185lbs x 2 reps [my core was starting to act suspect, but in Dusty's defense, he did get 3 on these, whereas, I only hit 2]

    One Arm Db Snatch
    70lbs Db's x 3 reps, each arm
    75lbs Db's x 3 reps, each arm
    80lbs Db's x 3 reps, each arm
    90lbs Db's x 3 reps, each arm

    [I twinged my left, lower lumbar on these again. My damn lumbar is so susceptible to re-aggravation]

    Hammer Shoulder Press
    180lbs x 10 reps
    230lbs x 10 reps
    250lbs x 8 reps
    270lbs x 6 reps

    I could have gone another 2 exercises, but again, I promised the wife I'd be home in time for dinner. She's on winter break (she's a teacher), so suddenly she's cooking dinner, otherwise, I normally don't have a gym kerfu.

    In the beginning, during our Snatches, Dusty was getting frustrated because I was pulling the weight with such ease and somehow outperforming him as if I were "on cycle" or something. This has been an incredible experience so far!
    Last edited by VolcomX311; 12-21-2010 at 10:57 PM.


  2. told ya so, lol.



    pound dusty into the ground-
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!
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  3. WOW! Nice progress, I'm looking forward to this Creatine Nitrate/Meso stack, today was Day 1 for me

    Keep up the good work bro, you're killing it!!!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  4. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    told ya so, lol.



    pound dusty into the ground-
    Lol, I wouldn't put it that way, but yeah, I'm certainly pulling ahead. I also outperformed him bodybuilding-wise on the hammer shoulder press, but at that point he was just exhausted, whereas, I was still feeling 80% fresh.

    I haven't been this confounded/impressed by the efficacy of a product since Slim Xtreme by AX.

    The CN/Meso combo makes me feel like I'm running a low key hormone/test stack (like Jungle Warfare + MassFX), just without the lethargy.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    WOW! Nice progress, I'm looking forward to this Creatine Nitrate/Meso stack, today was Day 1 for me

    Keep up the good work bro, you're killing it!!!
    Thanks and good luck with your run. It's been fantastic for me so far. My O-lifts have improved slightly between two consecutive O-lift sessions and that's not common. I'd been plateaued at 135 for awhile (couple months), meaning it was my 1-2 rep max on an uncommonly great day and 135 seems to be a base set 1 for me now.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Lol, I wouldn't put it that way, but yeah, I'm certainly pulling ahead. I also outperformed him bodybuilding-wise on the hammer shoulder press, but at that point he was just exhausted, whereas, I was still feeling 80% fresh.

    I haven't been this confounded/impressed by the efficacy of a product since Slim Xtreme by AX.

    The CN/Meso combo makes me feel like I'm running a low key hormone/test stack (like Jungle Warfare + MassFX), just without the lethargy.
    i am very glad to hear you say that, i get the feeling that some people are skeptical of my results. i am just plain freaking out about the results i am getting!!!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  7. Might have to add this as a must try!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Might have to add this as a must try!
    What are you working on right now Flex? Sizing, cutting? You going to bulk up to the point of prepping for the stage or are you starting that detail process now?
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  9. Today's going to be a good test of Mesomorph. I've felt like hell all day due to too much tossing & turning last night, I didn't sleep for jack. I was dozing off at work around 1:30pm and to top it off, both of my workout partners are out.

    My guy Dusty is taking the rest of the year off (until the 1st) and my other guy Barry is hitting legs, which is something I wanted to do, except my left, lower lumbar is in shambles from the one arm Db snatches last night.

    I'm taking anti-inflammatories, but I also decided to get back on the fish oil to assist as well, so I jumped on a sick deal at CVS Pharmacy for fish oils, I got a 400 count, 1,000mg gel caps on a BOGO deal. I'm thinking of aiming for 8,000mg-10,000mg a day.

    Anyway, I've got a lot going against me in my workout tonight. Physical fatigue from lack of sleep and a mental motivation deficit from not having the squad tonight.

    I'm off for the gym
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    this is volcoms thread, and i don't mean to jack it-but i wouldn't be surprised if he puts on some decent lbm also. meso is more than just a stim pre-workout, much more.
    It's certainly no run-of-the-mill pre-workout.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    What are you working on right now Flex? Sizing, cutting? You going to bulk up to the point of prepping for the stage or are you starting that detail process now?
    Sizing bro..sittin at 220, strength is through the roof..

    Im actually gonna start cutting hard 1st week of Jan with LG's new fat burner Rezolution. Gonna diet for 16 more weeks..as this will setup summer/stage opportunities and a trip im taking to Tampa FL in April for a friends Bachelor party..Ill most likely be a light heavy 185ish at 5-6% ..

  12. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I'm off for the gym
    Go get it!

  13. Have you tried Super Cissus for an anti-inflammatory?

    I find that helps with some G.C.S/MSM/Hyaluronic Acid/ Omega3'6'9s and just added Joint Force in a couple weeks ago.

    Good luck on the workout!
    Core Nutritionals Representative

  14. Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Sizing bro..sittin at 220, strength is through the roof..

    Im actually gonna start cutting hard 1st week of Jan with LG's new fat burner Rezolution. Gonna diet for 16 more weeks..as this will setup summer/stage opportunities and a trip im taking to Tampa FL in April for a friends Bachelor party..Ill most likely be a light heavy 185ish at 5-6% ..
    Goddang, are you 220'ish in that avi?!? Making me feel like a fat ass.
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  15. Interesting Workout Today


    Before I go into the descriptive of today's experience, this was how the gym went.

    Lat Pull Downs
    150lbs x 20 reps
    170lbs x 15 reps
    190lbs x 12 reps
    210lbs x 10 reps [this is the real, first working set]
    230lbs x 10 reps
    250lbs x 8 reps
    270lbs x 6 reps
    290lbs x 6 reps

    Hammer, One Arm Lat Pull Downs
    90lbs x 15 reps, each arm
    115lbs x 10 reps, each arm
    125lbs x 10 reps, each arm
    135lbs x 8 reps, each arm
    145lbs x 6 reps, each arm

    Hammer, Behind The Neck Pull Downs
    180lbs x 15 reps
    200lbs x 10 reps
    220lbs x 10 reps
    240lbs x 8 reps

    Hammer, One Arm Under-grip High Row
    90lbs x 10 reps
    115lbs x 10 reps
    125lbs x 8 reps
    135lbs x 6 reps
    145lbs x 6 reps

    Behind The Neck Lat Pull Downs
    190lbs x 10 reps
    210lbs x 10 reps [I had to stop and laugh after this set, I could tell my stamina at this point was holding up a little too well]
    220lbs x 6 reps

    Working out solo was an interesting experience. It's a much more reflective and self aware experience then working with a workout partner. I haven't worked out solo in awhile and this would be the first time I've worked out solo on this stack.

    Firstly, I could feel the stim was much more pronounced. In a group, its hard to separate whether your energy is coming from solely within or if its energy your feeding off from an extrinsic source, like your workout partner(s). Corporate motivation and external voices of encouragement will always give off energy and fuel intensity in a different manner then lifting solo. Today, during my rest between sets, I could definitely feel a greater stim effect from the meso in of itself. In my more contemplative, intrinsic mental atmosphere, I could feel the stim in a much more palpable manner.

    Secondly, I'm never one to glorify "the pump," because I get a pump every time I workout, it's an inherent, autonomic function I'm normally not so impressed with, as its rather common place in my opinion. However, today for the first time, during my opening lat pull downs, the brachioradialus portion of my arm...



    ..... felt pumped to the point that I felt I had some kind of physiological anomaly occurring. I've had biceps pumps before, but this was something else. As the workout continued, the portion of my back I was taxing was getting a tight, tight, almost biceps like pump. The pump in my biceps lasted until I got home. I had a little trouble reaching across my chest and putting my seat belt on and when my wife called during the drive, I could feel my biceps pressing against my forearms when I was holding the cell phone to my ear.

    In conclusion, I am not surprised that my workout turned out well. This combo has yet to produce anything less then extraordinary results. Perhaps these new observations aren't really new, but were drowned out by the amount of excitement and external stimulus I get from working out in a group setting. Again, I couldn't say more. Although I have a full bottle of Orotine in my stash and two bottles of powdered mono, after tonight, I think I may become addicted to the Creatine Nitrate. I'm like this whole Meso/CN combo a little too much. I have to say this again, I haven't felt this strong, this much muscle endurance and overall stamina since I've been on something that required PCT.
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  16. This is a more fitting image of a brachioradialis

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  17. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Before I go into the descriptive of today's experience, this was how the gym went.

    Lat Pull Downs
    150lbs x 20 reps
    170lbs x 15 reps
    190lbs x 12 reps
    210lbs x 10 reps [this is the real, first working set]
    230lbs x 10 reps
    250lbs x 8 reps
    270lbs x 6 reps
    290lbs x 6 reps

    Hammer, One Arm Lat Pull Downs
    90lbs x 15 reps, each arm
    115lbs x 10 reps, each arm
    125lbs x 10 reps, each arm
    135lbs x 8 reps, each arm
    145lbs x 6 reps, each arm

    Hammer, Behind The Neck Pull Downs
    180lbs x 15 reps
    200lbs x 10 reps
    220lbs x 10 reps
    240lbs x 8 reps

    Hammer, One Arm Under-grip High Row
    90lbs x 10 reps
    115lbs x 10 reps
    125lbs x 8 reps
    135lbs x 6 reps
    145lbs x 6 reps

    Behind The Neck Lat Pull Downs
    190lbs x 10 reps
    210lbs x 10 reps [I had to stop and laugh after this set, I could tell my stamina at this point was holding up a little too well]
    220lbs x 6 reps

    Working out solo was an interesting experience. It's a much more reflective and self aware experience then working with a workout partner. I haven't worked out solo in awhile and this would be the first time I've worked out solo on this stack.

    Firstly, I could feel the stim was much more pronounced. In a group, its hard to separate whether your energy is coming from solely within or if its energy your feeding off from an extrinsic source, like your workout partner(s). Corporate motivation and external voices of encouragement will always give off energy and fuel intensity in a different manner then lifting solo. Today, during my rest between sets, I could definitely feel a greater stim effect from the meso in of itself. In my more contemplative, intrinsic mental atmosphere, I could feel the stim in a much more palpable manner.

    Secondly, I'm never one to glorify "the pump," because I get a pump every time I workout, it's an inherent, autonomic function I'm normally not so impressed with, as its rather common place in my opinion. However, today for the first time, during my opening lat pull downs, the brachioradialus portion of my arm...



    ..... felt pumped to the point that I felt I had some kind of physiological anomaly occurring. I've had biceps pumps before, but this was something else. As the workout continued, the portion of my back I was taxing was getting a tight, tight, almost biceps like pump. The pump in my biceps lasted until I got home. I had a little trouble reaching across my chest and putting my seat belt on and when my wife called during the drive, I could feel my biceps pressing against my forearms when I was holding the cell phone to my ear.

    In conclusion, I am not surprised that my workout turned out well. This combo has yet to produce anything less then extraordinary results. Perhaps these new observations aren't really new, but were drowned out by the amount of excitement and external stimulus I get from working out in a group setting. Again, I couldn't say more. Although I have a full bottle of Orotine in my stash and two bottles of powdered mono, after tonight, I think I may become addicted to the Creatine Nitrate. I'm like this whole Meso/CN combo a little too much. I have to say this again, I haven't felt this strong, this much muscle endurance and overall stamina since I've been on something that required PCT.
    bump, because my last post pushed into the next page.
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  18. nice, very nice.



    i think you just about covered my feelings about meso-thanks.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  19. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    nice, very nice.



    i think you just about covered my feelings about meso-thanks.
    ^^^^ x2

  20. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    This is a more fitting image of a brachioradialis

    Mine get so pumped and taxed from my Berzerker type workouts, that sometimes they quiver and "flex" involuntarily. Cool stuff.....


    Great log as always Volcom. I trust your opinions on products. So this is becoming a "must try" product for me. I could use a good pre-workout thingy.
    THE PAIN YOU ENDURE TODAY WILL PRODUCE THE POWER YOU ENJOY TOMORROW!!

    "Ye are gods, and all of you are children of the most High."

  21. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Mine get so pumped and taxed from my Berzerker type workouts, that sometimes they quiver and "flex" involuntarily. Cool stuff.....


    Great log as always Volcom. I trust your opinions on products. So this is becoming a "must try" product for me. I could use a good pre-workout thingy.
    Thanks TG. I highly recommend it. I liked White Flood, I liked Jack3d and I liked ASGT, of those three, I liked Jack3d the most. However, in my personal experience, Mesomorph has proved superior in these most notable ways.

    - The Stim lasts longer. I have to be more careful about timing Jack3d and/or ASGT, otherwise, if I'm 30min too late, I risk going into crash mode prematurely.

    - No post workout, utter bleak post-stim lethargy. Granted, after every high there is a low, but given how effectively meso stims, I would assume it would also have a thorough crashing, but it does not. It's more of a weaning off the stims, rather then feeling like you were thrown off a cliff. I've actually taken Meso once on an early AM situation and I didn't feel like hell the rest of the day.

    - Intensity is something Jack3d was very effective at bringing out. I'd say the mental intensity is neck & neck with Meso, however, it is my experience that I have had greater intra-set muscle endurance and can further exploit the intensity, perhaps largely due to the almost double amount of BA in mesomorph. That said, I don't want to seem like BA is the sole culprit to the enhanced muscle endurance, it makes sense to me that the H+ buffering is working in synergy with the potential increased lactate threshold from the Nitrates as well (blood circulation removing the lactic acid faster then its building up, combined with the elevated carnosine levels buffering the H+ [as a byproduct of ATP]) .
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  22. My left lower spinal erector is still pretty tweeked. I'm taking 800mg Motrin with 3g Fish Oil and I'll probably end up taking 10g of fish oil daily for awhile.

    On a brighter note. A few months back I was 217, then I went on a cut down to 212, stopped my cardio at 212, but kept dieting and somehow ended back up at 217. However, last night I took my powerbelt one size down, so I'm not the same 217 as I was before my cut. I have an Inzer Lever belt, so I have to manually remove the lever and move it down a notch, but I probably wouldn't be able to fit the belt on right after a meal. These Inzer lever belts will squeeze the life out of you when they're snug.

    Also, oddly enough, no DOMS after last night. Rest day today and a Christmas Even AM workout tomorrow (hopefully). I'm also hoping my back heals quick, next week my partner wants to do O-lifts off the ground, so I really need my back in good shape by then.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    My left lower spinal erector is still pretty tweeked. I'm taking 800mg Motrin with 3g Fish Oil and I'll probably end up taking 10g of fish oil daily for awhile.

    On a brighter note. A few months back I was 217, then I went on a cut down to 212, stopped my cardio at 212, but kept dieting and somehow ended back up at 217. However, last night I took my powerbelt one size down, so I'm not the same 217 as I was before my cut. I have an Inzer Lever belt, so I have to manually remove the lever and move it down a notch, but I probably wouldn't be able to fit the belt on right after a meal. These Inzer lever belts will squeeze the life out of you when they're snug.

    Also, oddly enough, no DOMS after last night. Rest day today and a Christmas Even AM workout tomorrow (hopefully). I'm also hoping my back heals quick, next week my partner wants to do O-lifts off the ground, so I really need my back in good shape by then.
    Good accurate info (i lol at thrown off a cliff) i use meso in the morning now at half a scoop instead of coffee.Yields much better mental acuity and alertness than just caffeine and i never seem to build a tolerence to this particular stim blend.Also as stated it just wears off around 1-2pm with zero crash and i am already up and around by then.
  24. Christmas Eve AM Workout


    This is a few hours after the gym, we had to do some last night Christmas shopping/exchanging, so my post gym enthusiasm isn't very fresh. I hit delts alone today with no O-anything and I'll get more descriptive after my workout log.

    Behind The Neck Barbell Shrugs; super-set to 45lbs Db Lateral Raises
    315lbs x 20 reps; 45lbs Db's x 10 reps
    405lbs x 10 reps; 45lbs Db's x 8 reps
    455lbs x 10 reps; 45lbs Db's x 8 reps
    495lbs x 8 reps; 45lbs Db's x 8 reps
    545lbs x 8 reps; 45lbs Db's x 6 reps

    Military Press; super-set to 50lbs Db's bent over lateral raises
    135lbs x 12 reps; 50lbs Db's x 10 reps
    185lbs x 10 reps; 50lbs Db's x 10 reps
    205lbs x 6 reps; 50lbs Db's x 10 reps
    205lbs x 5 reps; 50lbs Db's x 10 reps

    Barbell, Wide Grip, Upright Rows
    95lbs x 10 reps
    115lbs x 8 reps
    135lbs x 6 reps

    Although I didn't feel like I did that much, I was pretty worn out by the end of the upright rows. I felt like I had a good strong workout. No residual burning from the super-sets (aka the oxygen ratio slowly returning as the H+ goes back down), which yet again, reaffirms the amount of carnosine in my muscles due to the BA.

    I wished I had a workout partner with me today. I often times gauge the efficacy of my workout by how I am performing against my workout partner Dusty, who is of like strength with me. In military presses, he used to be stronger, but I've surpassed him in this area as well, but I would have liked to see how today's numbers would have matched up against his. Dusty is a good gauge of where I was strength, as oppose to my strength today.

    Good solid workout, I was sweating like a pig from the super-setting, but with the mesomorph, the super-sets are not painful with intra-set and post-set residual muscle burning. General fatigue seems to be the only limiting factor.

    Good Christmas Eve workout and Merry Christmas.
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  25. P.S. I re-aggravated my re-aggravated back. I was feeling relatively good this morning and I thought that as long I didn't bend over with any stress, my lumbar would be fine. However, my lumbar was apparently not strong enough for the core taxation involved in holding 500+ lbs on the barbell for shrugs. It was about 495 when I felt iffy and at 545, I felt it strain. Oh well..
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