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    lol, yeah. Normally, we would hit Snatch, Cleans, then Jerks or we'll do the full on C&J. However, my workout partner hurt his knee on the snatch. He isn't good with dropping below the bar and stabilizing with his core, so he over extends his wide stance, borderline sumo stance, except his feet are pointing forward and that caused his knee to tweek.
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    Present and accounted for.

    Thanks for the invite Sam. I wouldn't dare miss a Volcom thread. So much detailed info and the workout videos are to kill for!!

    I see you're still utilizing the Viking Press on the Hammer Strength machines.....the "off the handle" grip. I like doing those from time to time for the variety. Seems to hit the outer pecs nicely.

    And I see you're rockin' that lever-action blue Inzer power belt on those Hang-Snatches. Very cool. Best belt for the money on the entire market..........just a Thunder-opinion. ha ha

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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    Present and accounted for.

    Thanks for the invite Sam. I wouldn't dare miss a Volcom thread. So much detailed info and the workout videos are to kill for!!

    I see you're still utilizing the Viking Press on the Hammer Strength machines.....the "off the handle" grip. I like doing those from time to time for the variety. Seems to hit the outer pecs nicely.

    And I see you're rockin' that lever-action blue Inzer power belt on those Hang-Snatches. Very cool. Best belt for the money on the entire market..........just a Thunder-opinion. ha ha

    Time to turn this thread up another notch..........BAM!!!

    Thanks for joining Thunder! You know that MOD thread we all had to read before we last signed on? Or maybe you don't if you haven't signed on today, but basically, they're opening a MOD position with monetary compensation and you have 1 vote. I forgot by who, but I saw it.

    The Inzer belt is great, especially with the snazzy lever. The belt is so thick and quality that if we did have a Nuclear Winter, the world would be inhabited by scavenging insects and Inzer belts.

    Great vid by the way. The last FLEX cover with Jay Cutler on it looked insane. I don't know how he's managed to improve with time in a sport where he's technically past his prime age-wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Thanks for joining Thunder! You know that MOD thread we all had to read before we last signed on? Or maybe you don't if you haven't signed on today, but basically, they're opening a MOD position with monetary compensation and you have 1 vote. I forgot by who, but I saw it.

    The Inzer belt is great, especially with the snazzy lever. The belt is so thick and quality that if we did have a Nuclear Winter, the world would be inhabited by scavenging insects and Inzer belts.

    Great vid by the way. The last FLEX cover with Jay Cutler on it looked insane. I don't know how he's managed to improve with time in a sport where he's technically past his prime age-wise.
    That was ex-tightend83 who suggested me as a Mod. He just likes that I'm an egomaniacal juicer!! LMAO
    I actually thought of you as a new Mod when I read that thread.

    And concerning Jay being past his prime age-wise........I'm not sure such a thing exists. Look at Ronnie who made incredible gains well into his 40's. Then you have the ageless Vince Taylor.....nuff said. I also think of Dr. Fred Hatfield (Dr. Squat) who broke all his previous PR's on bench, deadlift, and even squat when he reached his 40's.

    I think as long as one trains wisely and intensely, that person could see gains well into their 40's, 50's, and maybe even their early 60's. These are the days when athletes are realizing there's not as many limitations as we were lead to believe years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    That was ex-tightend83 who suggested me as a Mod. He just likes that I'm an egomaniacal juicer!! LMAO
    I actually thought of you as a new Mod when I read that thread.

    And concerning Jay being past his prime age-wise........I'm not sure such a thing exists. Look at Ronnie who made incredible gains well into his 40's. Then you have the ageless Vince Taylor.....nuff said. I also think of Dr. Fred Hatfield (Dr. Squat) who broke all his previous PR's on bench, deadlift, and even squat when he reached his 40's.

    I think as long as one trains wisely and intensely, that person could see gains well into their 40's, 50's, and maybe even their early 60's. These are the days when athletes are realizing there's not as many limitations as we were lead to believe years ago.
    I hear you on the age thing. Everytime Bob Cicherello said Ronnie's past his prime and that Jay was past his prime, he continued to be wrong.
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    no tolerance build up with over half the tub gone. the effects keep increasing, not diminishing like most pre-workouts i have used.

    combined with the creatine nitrate, i think you are really going to enjoy the ride!!!

    GOOD LUCK!
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    Day 3, was "suppose" to be an off-day


    Today was suppose to be an off-day, so I only took 2 split doses of creatine nitrate. On my drive home, I realized I had to go to some Christmas party-dinner for my wife's work (she's a private school teacher) tomorrow, so I ended up steering my way toward the gym. No mesomorph, but doses of creatine nitrate about 40-50min prior.

    Creatine Nitrate without the Mesomorph.

    - Strength was not effected, my 1-10 reps strength was actually stronger then anticipated and nothing suffered as far as reps 1-10.

    - Holy H+/Lactic acid build up. Supersets, from reps 10 on burned like all living hell. Yesterday, I felt an extraordinarily lack of burn from high rep sets, which I attributed to the synergy of the circulation enhancement of the Nitrates combined with the Beta Alanine in the Mesomorph and today, the burn was dramatic. I'll be looking forward to my next workout WITH mesomorph.

    Lately, I've split back into two separate days. Width, primarily vertical resistance movements and thickness, primarily horizontal resistance movements. Today was width, my next back workout this week will be thickness. I understand you can't have a purely exclusive width or thickness day, which is why I just use the term "emphasis."

    Back Day; Emphasis on Width


    BW Wide Grip Pull Ups
    BW x 15 [PR + 5 reps], x 10, x 10, x 8, x 7 reps

    BW Behind The Neck Pull Ups; Superset to Hammer Pull Downs
    BW Behind The Neck Pull Ups x 10 reps; Superset to 180lbs Hammer Pull Downs x 10 reps
    BW Behind The Neck Pull Ups x 10 reps; Superset to 180lbs Hammer Pull Downs x 8 reps
    BW Behind The Neck Pull Ups x 10 reps; Superset to 230lbs Hammer Pull Downs x 6 reps

    One Arm, Hammer High Rows, under-grip
    90lbs x 10 reps, each arm
    130lbs x 10 reps, each arm
    150lbs x 10 reps, each arm [PR + 4 reps]
    175lbs x 10 reps, each arm [PR + entire set]

    Close Grip Lat Pull Downs
    180lbs x 10 reps
    200lbs x 10 reps
    220lbs x 8 reps

    Thee biggest, most pronounced effect of the lack of mesomorph with the creatine nitrate was 10+ rep range, not to mention the energy level. I walked out the gym feeling pretty beat up due to feeling drained. However, the strength from the creatine nitrate was solid. It feels like a solid product alone, but I certainly feel a palpable synergy when combining creatine nitrate and mesomorph together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    no tolerance build up with over half the tub gone. the effects keep increasing, not diminishing like most pre-workouts i have used.

    combined with the creatine nitrate, i think you are really going to enjoy the ride!!!

    GOOD LUCK!
    Thanks Big, I appreciate you stopping by. This stack has been doing me well so far, I've had some unexpected, positive surprises with the combination of the two.

    I wonder if there is more beta alanine per serving in mesomorph then in jack3d or ASGT, I don't know, but the parasthetic symptoms I get from 1 scoop of mesomorph suggests a higher dosage. It literally feels like 2 scoops of jack3d, both in the intensity of the parasthesia and the duration it lasts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Thanks Big, I appreciate you stopping by. This stack has been doing me well so far, I've had some unexpected, positive surprises with the combination of the two.

    I wonder if there is more beta alanine per serving in mesomorph then in jack3d or ASGT, I don't know, but the parasthetic symptoms I get from 1 scoop of mesomorph suggests a higher dosage. It literally feels like 2 scoops of jack3d, both in the intensity of the parasthesia and the duration it lasts.
    There is 4100mg of beta alanine in 1 serving of mesomorph.We feel that is the min amount needed to achieve the necessary carnosine production and intracellular saturation.this is one of the reasons mesomorph is so different from many other in that it works better and better the more you use it as opposed to working less and less like some.Not only do the energizers work continuously with no tolerance problems but unlike most the muscle building ingredient are dosed correctly so you see more and more of those benefits with time as gaspari points out all these others don't have that benefit AT ALL because they all have well below the minimal effective dose of the muscle building agents so once the stim tolerance kicks in you are left with nothing.It takes a good 10-14 days for the carnosine levels to achieve an effective level so you just wait volcom meso hasn't even begun to perform for you to it's potential.
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    Quote Originally Posted by APS NUTRITION View Post
    There is 4100mg of beta alanine in 1 serving of mesomorph.We feel that is the min amount needed to achieve the necessary carnosine production and intracellular saturation.this is one of the reasons mesomorph is so different from many other in that it works better and better the more you use it as opposed to working less and less like some.Not only do the energizers work continuously with no tolerance problems but unlike most the muscle building ingredient are dosed correctly so you see more and more of those benefits with time as gaspari points out all these others don't have that benefit AT ALL because they all have well below the minimal effective dose of the muscle building agents so once the stim tolerance kicks in you are left with nothing.It takes a good 10-14 days for the carnosine levels to achieve an effective level so you just wait volcom meso hasn't even begun to perform for you to it's potential.
    Oh wow, that would CLEARLY explain the amount of parasthesia I get from 1 serving of Mesomorph and that's pretty amazing. I've never taken more then 1-2g of BA in one setting, which would explain the extraordinarily lack of burn I felt the other day; the greatest lack of sense of H+/lactic build up ever, in spite of the aggressive & excessive super-setting.

    Thanks for shedding light on this matter. It adds to the relevant content when referring a supplement. It's even better when you can point to the significance of the dose quantity, as oppose to a general ingredient
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Oh wow, that would CLEARLY explain the amount of parasthesia I get from 1 serving of Mesomorph and that's pretty amazing. I've never taken more then 1-2g of BA in one setting, which would explain the extraordinarily lack of burn I felt the other day; the greatest lack of sense of H+/lactic build up ever, in spite of the aggressive & excessive super-setting.

    Thanks for shedding light on this matter. It adds to the relevant content when referring a supplement. It's even better when you can point to the significance of the dose quantity, as oppose to a general ingredient
    Yeah mesomorph is a true preworkout formula for those serious about working out.Athletes like yourself who lift hard and heavy will benefit from and appreciate what it has to offer as most of these ingredients deal with recouperation,toxin removal,assisting the muscle perform to it's maximum potential under supraphysical demand and stress etc.Not so much for the "social lifter"who goes in on Fridays so he has a good pump while at happy hour (and we all have one friend like that).although he will appreciate the nice energy kick from it.Nice log going on here,really interested to see how this combo influences your progress.will be along for the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by APS NUTRITION View Post
    There is 4100mg of beta alanine in 1 serving of mesomorph.We feel that is the min amount needed to achieve the necessary carnosine production and intracellular saturation.this is one of the reasons mesomorph is so different from many other in that it works better and better the more you use it as opposed to working less and less like some.Not only do the energizers work continuously with no tolerance problems but unlike most the muscle building ingredient are dosed correctly so you see more and more of those benefits with time as gaspari points out all these others don't have that benefit AT ALL because they all have well below the minimal effective dose of the muscle building agents so once the stim tolerance kicks in you are left with nothing.It takes a good 10-14 days for the carnosine levels to achieve an effective level so you just wait volcom meso hasn't even begun to perform for you to it's potential.
    this is exactly what i have experienced. by now i would be noticing diminishing effects from other pre-workouts i have used. the effects of mesomorph just keep increasing. i can honestly say mesomorph is the best pre-workout i have tried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by APS NUTRITION View Post
    Yeah mesomorph is a true preworkout formula for those serious about working out.Athletes like yourself who lift hard and heavy will benefit from and appreciate what it has to offer as most of these ingredients deal with recouperation,toxin removal,assisting the muscle perform to it's maximum potential under supraphysical demand and stress etc.Not so much for the "social lifter"who goes in on Fridays so he has a good pump while at happy hour (and we all have one friend like that).although he will appreciate the nice energy kick from it.Nice log going on here,really interested to see how this combo influences your progress.will be along for the ride.
    That's good, motivational info and thanks for joining in. This combination fits in well to my current routine, high intensity with relatively high volume. I'll be looking forward to every workout and seeing how things progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    this is exactly what i have experienced. by now i would be noticing diminishing effects from other pre-workouts i have used. the effects of mesomorph just keep increasing. i can honestly say mesomorph is the best pre-workout i have tried.
    Well, already I have felt a pronounced superiority in diminishing H+ build up from the Mesomorph and I'm hypothesizing there is also a strong synergy between the effects of the nitrates with the BA in improving my lactate threshold. My speculation seemed more solidified to myself at least, when it was disclosed how much BA there was per serving of mesomorph.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    This officially makes Asians the majority as of right now, lol.

    Post your math problems here.
    42x8 /6 =x, & x + Y = -12 what is Y, and Y am I asking you?

    Quote Originally Posted by APS NUTRITION View Post
    There is 4100mg of beta alanine in 1 serving of mesomorph.We feel that is the min amount needed to achieve the necessary carnosine production and intracellular saturation.this is one of the reasons mesomorph is so different from many other in that it works better and better the more you use it as opposed to working less and less like some.Not only do the energizers work continuously with no tolerance problems but unlike most the muscle building ingredient are dosed correctly so you see more and more of those benefits with time as gaspari points out all these others don't have that benefit AT ALL because they all have well below the minimal effective dose of the muscle building agents so once the stim tolerance kicks in you are left with nothing.It takes a good 10-14 days for the carnosine levels to achieve an effective level so you just wait volcom meso hasn't even begun to perform for you to it's potential.
    Dang that alone makes me want to try out Mesomorphosis. Well that and the other feedback I have been hearing. Maybe when I recover from Christmas spending....
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    42x8 /6 =x, & x + Y = -12 what is Y, and Y am I asking you?



    Dang that alone makes me want to try out Mesomorphosis. Well that and the other feedback I have been hearing. Maybe when I recover from Christmas spending....
    Y = -68.

    Meso is good stuff so far.

    Also, in case anyone missed WEC's Anthony Pettis's Matrix kick

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    Day 5; Amazing


    Today's Back workout, emphasis on thickness was one of thee best and most intense back workouts I've ever had, that didn't include Dead Lifts.

    Re-introduction of Mesomorph.
    Firstly, pronounced, pronounced difference in working out with Mesomorph, then without; not only sheer intensity-wise, but clear distinction in the lack of contraction inhibiting H+ build up from reps (via the Beta Alanine).

    Secondly, I took my Mesomorph after eating some carbs to see if I could buffer some of the parasthesia, as I happen to be hyper-sensitive to parasthesia and I was surprised when I found out there was 4g of BA per serving and I didn't peel my skin off with a potato peeler. Ingesting carbs before the Mesomorph did help in blunting the peak intensity of the parasthesia, but not the duration. I'm 2.5 hours past my dose of meso and I still feel residual parasthesia, which doesn't happen with other pre-workouts. Usually all the parasthesia goes away after 30 min. You are certainly getting your moneys worth of BA in this product.

    BACK WORKOUT

    One Arm, Underhand Grip Db Rows
    100lbs Db's x 10 reps
    110lbs Db's x 10 reps
    120lbs Db's x 10 reps
    125lbs Db's x 10 reps
    125lbs Db's x 10 reps

    One Arm, T-Bar Rows [free weight barbell between the legs]
    90lbs x 10 reps
    135lbs x 10 reps
    180lbs x 6 reps
    180lbs x 6 reps

    One Arm, Hammer High Rows
    135lbs x 10 reps
    180lbs x 10 reps
    225lbs x 8 reps
    270lbs x 6 reps

    One Arm, Hammer Low Rows
    135lbs x 10 reps
    180lbs x 8 reps
    225lbs x 6

    The workout as far as weight is concerned doesn't seem so extraordinary, it was the weight x the pace. I was ready to throw up from the first set of one arm T-bars, but my partner and I just kept moving one after another, no BSing, not much talking, breathing too hard to hold a conversation really. I was gasping for air like I was doing HIT sprints on a field.

    I don't know that I could have maintained this pace if it were not for the effects of the mesomorph. I would have been in residual muscle burn and having to slow my roll, but I didn't. Great workout once again.

    Side Notes:

    - No diminished stimulant effects.

    - No intra-workout, tail-end workout or post workout crash. I'm still plenty energized.

    - I can't really gauge whether the BA is improving my carnosine stores or not because no burn is no burn, perhaps the next time I hit something more vulnerable to burning like delts, I'll pay closer to attention when I extend into my super-sets or drop sets.

    and for those of you who are hyper-sensitive to high dosages of BA, ingest some carbs prior to taking the Mesomorph and it helps to blunt the parasthesia.



    I really wanted to finish off with some light deads to pre-hab my back, but the Db rows and T-bars
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    Great workout, detail and thoughts on the products, this log is looking amazing!

    I tend to use lots of BA, normally 1 scoop of Meso and 2 scoops of Purple Wraath, so prob over 6g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Y = -68.

    Meso is good stuff so far.

    Also, in case anyone missed WEC's Anthony Pettis's Matrix kick

    That kick is one of the craziest things i have ever seen in mma!
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    Quote Originally Posted by more knowledge View Post
    That kick is one of the craziest things i have ever seen in mma!
    Frankie Edgar or Greg Maynard will have their hands full against Pettis. Apart from this showy Matrix kick, his stand up and his ground is solid.
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    Day 6; Another great accessory day.


    I was suppose to do legs today, but I ran into my friend who's an ex pro Rugby player. He "ONLY" O-lifts, yet is built like someone who's been doing DC training for years. He's just thick and solid as hell. I've never seen someone who fit the term "built like a brick" more appropriately. I wouldn't want to get tackled by this guy, especially without pads. His core strength is outrageous, mine in comparison to his is sand in the vag. My leg day therefore, was put off.

    Side Notes

    - Yesterday I ate simple carbs before ingesting Mesomorph to try and blunt the BA parasthesia and it seemed to blunt the peak intensity of the tingling and it as time progressed, it waned as usual. This morning, I ate complex carbs before taking the mesomorph and it probably blunted the peak intensity of the parasthesia by 50-75%, but it remained at a higher level or longer.

    TRAPS day (sort of)

    Hang Snatch
    95lbs x 5 reps (a warm up at this point, but this used to be a set).
    115lbs x 5 reps (also used to be a set).
    135lbs x 3 reps
    140lbs x 3 reps
    145lbs x 2 reps
    150lbs x 1 rep (PR? I'd have to look back at previous numbers).

    Hang Cleans
    135lbs x 5 reps (definitely warm up weight now).
    155lbs x 5 reps
    185lbs x 3 reps
    185lbs x 3 reps
    205lbs x 1 rep

    Barbell Shrugs
    225lbs x 20 reps (I didn't feel the hint of H+ build up until about rep 20)
    315lbs x 10 reps
    335lbs x 10 reps
    355lbs x 8 reps

    Smith, Behind The Neck Shrugs
    225lbs x 10 reps
    315lbs x 10 reps
    405lbs x 10 reps
    455lbs x 8 reps

    My hang snatch felt the most notably effected by the CN/Meso. It's not something that shows in the numbers, but something only I can experience, which is how fresh I felt between reps and how much more explosive I felt during the rep. Unlike conventional bodybuilding reps, in a power movement, being that it's so complex-compound and requires so much energy per pull, you can feel a full-body fatigue within a single rep. I felt abnormally fresh between reps and my pulls felt lighter then usual, which I attribute to the creatine nitrate.

    Another great workout. Also, strangely no DOMS from yesterdays back attack. Great stuff APS
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    I gotta tell you guys, doing O-lifts have done wonders for my traps.
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    I'm gonna start adding some O-lifts into my routine on my upcoming stack. Workouts look great!, Can't imagine your friend out lifting you by much, must be one hell of a strong dude!

    Keep up the good work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgementDay View Post
    I'm gonna start adding some O-lifts into my routine on my upcoming stack. Workouts look great!, Can't imagine your friend out lifting you by much, must be one hell of a strong dude!

    Keep up the good work!
    The O-lifts will translate directly to TD's/TDD's and anything involving hip extension, like sweeps, escapes....

    The ex pro Ruby guy isn't stronger then me bodybuilding wise. I can out bench, out deadlift him, but when it comes to hip explosion and core strength, he's more powerful and more core stable by a larger margin, then I am stronger then him, strength lifting wise.

    Overhead squats, seated in the hams to calves position is the zenith of core strength/stability. I can only hold an overhead HtC with 135lbs, he can hold that same position with 225lbs, which until you've tried it, you can't really grasp how hard that is. I could reach a 600lbs dead lift before I reach that, imo.

    Anyway, once you start o-lifting and you want any kind of tips or info, feel more then free to hit me up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Frankie Edgar or Greg Maynard will have their hands full against Pettis. Apart from this showy Matrix kick, his stand up and his ground is solid.
    Yeah i actually saw a show on him about a month ago.More of like a biography type of thing about his life on (of all places) MTV.He has that tunnel vision the best guys get.He says he feels like he cant even lose one fight in ufc cause its to the bottom of list,he says two fights and that could be it.Lotta pressure
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    Day 8; Muscle Stamina off the charts


    Chest Day

    Flat Db Press
    100lbs Db's x 12 reps
    110lbs Db's x 12 reps
    120lbs Db's x 8 reps
    125lbs Db's x 6 reps

    Incline Db Press
    90lbs x 10 reps
    95lbs x 10 reps
    100lbs x 8 reps
    105lbs x 6 reps [I didn't think I'd have it in me to progress this far with the inclines, but I felt good and my chest was extraordinarily not fatigued by this point]

    Incline Hammer Press
    180lbs x 10 reps
    270lbs x 10 reps
    360lbs x 8 reps
    410lbs x 5 [suspect reps]

    Hammer Wide Press
    270lbs x 10 reps
    320lbs x 8 reps
    370lbs x 6 reps

    I honestly wanted to continue to one more decline focused press, but I promised the wife I'd be home in time for dinner.... turns out I could have been a couple min late, but oh well. I felt I was 90% spent.

    Today, one of the more pronounced effects I felt from the CN/Meso combo was the extraordinary amount of muscle stamina and strength. I felt strong during the lifts and I never really felt fatigued. My between sets recovery was incredible and it was one of those days where rather then dreading the pain of the next set, I was fresh and looking forward to what I was able to do.

    Also, eating a nutribar before ingesting the Meso blunted the peak intensity and shortened the duration of the parasthesia. These specific details are important to me because I am hyper-sensitive to beta alanine. I've never taken 4g in one sitting due to my hyper-sensitivity. I usually stick with 1g at a time in 3-4 doses throughout the day to make it manageable, so I'm sympathetic to the plight of those sensitive to parasthesia.

    Worth of note.

    No intra or toward the end of the workout or immediately post workout burn out from the stims and something to keep in mind, this may not be as extraordinary had this been day 8 of a pre-workout in general, but its extraordinary because I transitioned directly into having used a combination of jack3d and ASGT for about two months prior, directly into this log. I was already at the point of needing to up the dosage of either and/or both products (jack3d/ASGT) to get the desired effects, yet I'm still receiving above and beyond the desired effects from a single serving of Mesomorph.

    Cool Random Info
    I saw an ex high school kid I was a personal S&C coach for tonight, he plays tight end for CAL (Division I college football) now and was back on Christmas vacation. It was cool because my workout partner who is a football fanatic recognized him from watching college ball and when I told him I used to train him his senior year of high school, he thought it was pretty cool.

    Anyway, another impressive experience with this combo, my strength, endurance and stamina improvements reminds me and feels like I'm on some kind of pro hormone stack, minus the lethargy.
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