- 10-03-2010, 08:56 PM
- 10-03-2010, 11:07 PM
- 10-04-2010, 12:50 AM
10-04-2010, 01:32 PM
10-04-2010, 02:11 PM
as to the gloves-i wash hands after applying so whatever is on my hands gets washed off. besides, since forma has a nice drying effect on areas applied to, i would rather have it go to targeted area than be absorbed by my hands...but that's just me.
10-04-2010, 02:36 PM
10-04-2010, 11:20 PM
btw-chest and triceps are looking more defined, this is the great thing about td forma-being able to apply to problem areas. i have lost around 60lbs in the last couple of years and there is some loose skin-the forma works great on these areas.
10-06-2010, 09:09 PM
10-06-2010, 09:21 PM
i was surprised that there was no body odor, from all i had read on dmso i was prepared to have some stink-it never happened. to me it seems that **** has perfected the transdermal delivery.
one other thing i might add, i am completely free of skin irritation-even after applying frequently to chest and upper thighs.
10-07-2010, 12:36 AM
10-07-2010, 02:25 PM
10-07-2010, 08:24 PM
10-08-2010, 12:54 PM
dropped another pound and looking leaner. skin is tightening up at areas of application-this is very good, since i have some loose skin from dropping a bunch of weight.
10-09-2010, 12:45 AM
10-10-2010, 10:21 AM
my skin is without a doubt showing tightening effects at sites i have been applying to. going to try the entire 10 pumps on my abs both times i apply today-abs is a spot i normally avoid with other td formestane products because for some reason it seems overall formestane effect is reduced when applying there.
10-10-2010, 10:57 AM
10-10-2010, 06:57 PM
10-10-2010, 08:54 PM
10-10-2010, 09:34 PM
10-11-2010, 06:16 PM
sorry for the lack of updates, had a family thing i had to take care of.
was back in the gym this morning, and things are looking good. my abs are looking leaner, but not sure if it is from applying there-i will continue applying 10 pumps 1 time a day to abs and see if results keep coming.
10-11-2010, 07:08 PM
Just saw this log for the first time and read something I didn't know.
I was not aware dmso was used as a delievery agent which is awesome. I am a huge huge dmso fan, I use it for everything from sore joints to back pumps to sprained ankles
Huge thumbs up to **** for thinking outside the box and using it.
My oly real question then is is it 99.9 percent dmso, or is it a solution?
Also dmso is one of the strongest solvents around and since I don't know what percent is used I can't comment to much but after years of reading on dmso I know it should not be kept in plastic bottles. I am not sure what happens when you have it as a solution of something else but I know on its on it should be in a sterile glass bottle only.
Maybe **** could chime in on this, and also mention if they have med grade dmso or if they are using the more common vet grade
10-12-2010, 03:23 PM
10-12-2010, 03:54 PM
It is no where near 99% my friend. I know everyone keeps asking away at the "what in the delivery system used" and to be 100% honest the less I can say about it the better. I dont really mind at all if people don't like the fact that we are being as discrete as we can about the delivery system. ( no disrespect intended at all though)
Some people will throw a fit, others ( competition mostly) will hone in on this and try to hype it up and make the biggest deal they can about it. O well!!!!
The delivery system is the best there is. Many many people who have been using transdermals for a very very long time have said its by far the best they have ever seen. Many people who have used every kind of formastane product out there have said this is by far the best they have ever used.
The system is 100% safe, it 100% works,its got plenty if not more then enough feedback and backing from more then enough people.
Its a combination of chemical and natural delivery agent that is mostly natural. A lot more natural really lol..
To the question its self about dmso having to be in a glass container at all times. Yes It would be so if one were to be using 100% or even close to that percentage of dmso. even then I have seen many doctors laugh when asked if DMSO must only be used in a glass container. It does hoever make for a outstanding sales pitch or negative sales pitch for other companies using it in just glass. They can throw out the pitch " never ever use the competitors products that are sold in anything but glass!!!" " we got the best and here's why!!!!"
Keep in mind when mixed with other compounds and of course when used in very minimal amounts other polymers can safely be used. Safety is always a number one concern and I for sure would never ever want anyone to get sick.
If you wanted to do your own homework you could look up the subject and find thousands of mixtures and lots of reading to do on the topic... DMSO products of all kinds (not high % dmso) are sold in everything from ceramic and glass to plan plastic spray bottles.
1 popular doctor sells a hair treatment product that is in a plastic bottle and comes with a plastic dropper. I will not link in though.
A 100% or even above 90% DMSO mix could cause corrosion and at that % would drag anything it came in contact with into the body.. Remember the person who first discovered dmso was using rubber gloves and he got sick. Ya he was using almost pure dmso. Maybe even as low as 20-30% you might have to worry about.
The amount of DMSO in this product would be like saying you cant keep garlic in anything but glass. As many know garlic is a natural like form of DMSO. Or sulfers thereof make up a large part of garlic. which of course is one of the reasons dmso can give a garlic like stink.
thank you for the questions my friend and I respect you very much good bro.
Your a great member with good attention to detail and I commend you for this. I am sure you could deff do a lot of google searching and get a better understanding of the subject but the "dangers" of dmso in a plastic container are over hyped do to a lot of reasons . Unless one were talking about using a large amount or high % . I do believe
the manufactotor is not using the standard plastic polermer
There is more DMSO or like sulfers in a bottle of garlic oil then in this product lol.. But again I am keeping exact amounts to my self and truthfully only my manufacturer knows the exact amounts anyway.
10-12-2010, 04:18 PM
no sickness, lol. very little sides- slight bad breath 1st 3 days, and some metalic taste in week 2- that's it.
results speak for themselves-superb product. if you want to use formestane this is the product you want to use, imo.
10-12-2010, 06:01 PM
why did you decide to go to 10 pumps only once a day? I have been doing it twice a day. Would lowering dosage help with sore joints? they are hurting, but I am thinking it to be from katanadrol
NOT an IFORCE rep, but their new VMS Protean is amazing. I also dropped 15lbs on the testabolan2 and rev2 stack last month.
10-12-2010, 08:08 PM
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10-12-2010, 09:14 PM
10-12-2010, 10:32 PM
10-13-2010, 06:30 AM
I want the Forma. Will have to buy some when I get the chance. Thanks for clearing that up Needto. So glad u r running this big tom.
10-13-2010, 10:28 AM
my approach to running a log is different than many others. if i want to see a diet journal, i will look in the diet section. if i want to see a workout journal i will look in the training section. i am all about the product, what effects it has on me- to give others an idea of what they can expect from it-and how it compares to other products with similar ingredients.
formastanzol rates at top of list of formestane containing products, imho. libido/leaning-particularly at site of application/confidence/aggression/sense of well being/strength, are some of the things i feel most users will experience.
10-15-2010, 01:22 PM
sex drive[libido] is very high!!! my mood and confidence are soaring, and the experiment on abs is still ongoing-maybe some slight improvement, but it might just be wishful thinking. my chest is definately more defined, along with upper thighs-the places i hit most regularly. no skin irritation at all!!!
10-15-2010, 04:17 PM
10-15-2010, 07:14 PM
10-15-2010, 08:43 PM
10-16-2010, 06:52 PM
I was directly referring to dmso in large amounts when I was talking about only being in plastic and at high dosage.
Like I said I am a huge believer and user of DMSO, its one of my favorite products. I was not trying to come off saying anything bad, I just have not read a lot on DMSO being used in other products so I was not sure about how it reacted with plastic, and other compounds.
I love forma, its doing wonders in my log that is all **** products which I have been selling everyone I know on, instead of trying to get iffy injectables from unknown sources.
10-16-2010, 07:10 PM
10-17-2010, 11:00 AM
10-21-2010, 01:52 PM
looks like today will be my last on forma-that makes 25 days, not bad considering i upped the dose a few times.
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