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    Pmiller's Forma-Stanzol Log


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    Height - 5'10
    Weight - 235
    Body Fat - 10.1% 3 spot caliber test
    Supplements
    5000 Iu's Vitamin D Daily
    Assault by Muscle Pharm Pre-workout (been using for like 2 years straights so it wont affect log)
    1 Tbsp Fish Oil ~EOD
    B Complex weekly
    Diet
    -Average 3000-4000 kcal's daily
    -Usually get 180g-220g Carbs on workout days
    -Get about 60g Carbs Off Days
    -Protein isn't tracked but I eat plenty
    -Fat is mostly from EVOO, Red Meat, or Nuts and averages 150-200g's daily
    - My diet is pretty loosely set up but the main rules I stick to are no grains, 95% of the stuff I eat is unprocessed and home made, Liquid Calories only during workouts, and drink at least 16oz of water an hour.
    Training
    A modified Westside that has been evolving for a couple years now. I do a lot of my work raw but since I am close to a competition I will have more geared work in this log than normal.
    Goal
    I have my first full meet on October 16th so my goal is to just get a total. I have done plenty of push-pull meets but I always had ankle stability trouble squatting. I recently have been working with a chiropractor who helped me get my ankle stable enough to squat without worrying about my ankle or leg giving out.

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    Applications and Usage
    I will be applying 10 pumps twice daily. The first application will be after my morning shower and the second will be before bed. Before the second application I will clean the area where I will be applying the formula with cleaning wipe. The application sites will be either my upper chest, Front of my traps, rear of my traps, and shoulders. I may get some on my upper back but sadly that is pretty hard for me to reach.
    Initial Impressions
    Texture- Pretty smooth formula that doesn't feel greasy or oilly
    Application Ease- I am amazed on how easily the product is applied to the skin. The pump works very well and the formula itself spreads easily and dries amazingly quick.
    Smell-No noticeable scent at all. This is much different from any transdermal product I have used it the past because normally your hands and body will smell like the product for a long time after applying.
    Skin Irritation-No skin irritation or dryness after first few applications. I am pretty susceptible to dry skin so that is something I will be keeping a close eye on throughout the log
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    Day 1 Training
    Raw Bench Press to 1/2 foam roller
    The half foam roller starts out at about the height of a two board and compress to about a one board once the weight gets around 315. I will try and get the video of my last two reps from this session.
    Warm Up until 315
    365x3
    385x3
    405x1
    425x1
    475x1
    515x1
    Dumbbell Incline Press with Light Band Behind Back
    100's x 20 x 20
    Reverse Pec Deck Fly's
    155 x15x15x15x15
    Tricep Pushdowns
    80 x20x20x20
    Back Raises
    100 total done through workout
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    Hey it looks like Im the 1st one to the party. Its Miller time!
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    ^^^LOL.

    I'm pretty interested in this stuff. I'm thinking about stacking it with some our stuff, so I'll definitely be checking back from time to time.
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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    Subbed.. love the detail Miller.
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    Cant wait to see how u do in ur competition!
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    Training
    Box Squats Against Band and Chains
    *Choke Light Bands + Doubled Mini Bands + 100lbs Chain (~300 total at top) All Walked Out
    135 x 2
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    Add Briefs
    225 x 2
    275 x 2
    325 x 2
    345 x 1
    365 x 1
    375 x 1
    Long Strap Reverse Hypers
    270 x10x10x8x8
    Short Strap Reverse Hypers
    180 x20x20x15
    Band Resisted ABs
    Green Band x12x12x2 <-- Wicked ab cramps, had to call it quits
    Other
    I got my body fat tested prior to lifting today with a 3-point digital caliber. It says I am at 10.1% which may be a little lower than what I actually am, but its a number none the less. I hold just about all of my fat right in my lower abdomen so maybe after the forma run I will try hitting up a cortisol blocker and see if that helps me be a little more evenly distributed.
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    Training
    Speed Bench- 225 for 9 sets of 3
    275x1
    335x1
    385x1
    425x1
    Add 3 Board
    475 x 3
    515 x 3
    Stopped there because one of the guys I train with couldn't come today so I had to do self handouts which suck on heavy weight. I was pretty gassed anyways
    Dumbbell Overhead Press
    105's x10x10
    Face Pulls
    110 x20x20x20x20
    Tate Press
    55's x12x12x12x12
    Neck Harness
    75 x25x25
    45 x50
    Forma-Stanzol
    Libido-Noticing a little kick in my libido after the first few days of use.
    Joints-A little achy but that is more than likely due to the training and not the supplement. I will keep track of this though so you guys can see if its consisten.
    Other- I think I am going to have to get some latex gloves to apply the product with because it dries so fast I feel like I'm losing some of it on my hands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    I think I am going to have to get some latex gloves to apply the product with because it dries so fast I feel like I'm losing some of it on my hands.[/INDENT]
    Good idea. Gotta make use of every drop.

    I actually remember reading someone doing that or someone recommending to use latex gloves for the application.
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    Cool tip, I get my bottle soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chocolatemilk View Post
    Good idea. Gotta make use of every drop.

    I actually remember reading someone doing that or someone recommending to use latex gloves for the application.
    been using gloves for years!
    pmiller-you notice increased thirst?
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    AH it was you Bigt... now I remember haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    been using gloves for years!
    pmiller-you notice increased thirst?
    Wouldnt there still be some absorption through the fingers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Urban Monk View Post
    Wouldnt there still be some absorption through the fingers?
    don't you wash hands after applying....
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    I haven't really noticed any changes in appetite or thirst. I drink a pretty ridiculous amount of fluid throughout the day as it is now though so it might be harder for me to pick up on something like that.
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    Training
    Chest Supported Row
    180 x 15 x 15
    205 x 12
    225 x 8 x 8
    135 x 20
    Glute Ham Raise
    Body Weight x 45 x 20 x 20 x 15
    Hammer Curls
    75's x 8 x 8 x 8
    Reverse Curl
    5 sets of 15, forgot what weight
    Four Way Neck
    50 Reps each way
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    I haven't really noticed any changes in appetite or thirst. I drink a pretty ridiculous amount of fluid throughout the day as it is now though so it might be harder for me to pick up on something like that.
    i guess it is just me. something for you to look for though.
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    Training
    Free Squats
    185 x 3
    255 x 3
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    395 x 1
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    Straps Up
    535 x 1 <-- Opener for my meet
    Deadlifts
    315 x 3
    365 x 3
    405 x 2
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    495 x 1
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    585 x 1 <-- Open for my meet
    Reverse Hyper Short Strap
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    Nice workouts bro.
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    Training
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    535x1 <-- Opener for meet
    Dumbbell Incline Press
    105's x25x20
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    Band x20x20x20x20
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    30's x15x15x15x15
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    75 x25x25

    Forma-Stanzol
    Weight - My weight has shot up to ~237 since starting the Forma-Stanzol but I haven't noticed any change in how tight my clothes are so I have no clue where the weight came from unless its stored up in my intestines....
    Skin Irritation - I have been applying mostly to my shoulders and upper back and I noticed the skin drying out a little bit on my shoulders so I am going to have to find a different place to apply the formula for a little bit
    Joints- Really no ill effects on my joints from the Forma which is a problem I usually get from most other anti-estrogen products.
    Libido - No real change in libido but my boys are hanging around a little lower than usual.
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    U could try the Forma on ur chest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    U could try the Forma on ur chest.
    It might not make it past my sweater lol. I went with my obliques the other day and that seemed to work pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    It might not make it past my sweater lol. I went with my obliques the other day and that seemed to work pretty good.
    try applying to both upper and lower body each time.
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    Training
    Box Squats with Buffalo Bar
    Worked up to 345 for 8 sets of 2, all super fast
    Swings
    95 x 15 x 15 x 15 x 15
    Short Strap Reverse Hypers
    225 x 20 x 20 x 20
    Ab Wheel
    BW x 10 x 10 x 10 x 10
    Sled Drags
    45 on tire for 3 250ft trips. It was pouring rain so these became pretty pointless.

    I will probably do some extra bodyweight work tonight like step ups and planks


    Thanks for the tips on places to apply the Forma. I should not that I put a few different things on my shoulder pretty regularly so I think it was the mix of everything that dried out my skin, not just the Forma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller383 View Post
    It might not make it past my sweater lol. I went with my obliques the other day and that seemed to work pretty good.
    Lol sorry I forget not everyone is hairless like me.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    try applying to both upper and lower body each time.
    Will have to do that next Form run.
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    after a lot of trial and error, i have found that splitting each dose into upper and lower gives best results. i.e 5 upper arms, 5 upper thighs.
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    Yesterday's Training
    Bench - Half Foam Roller
    225 x 5
    275 x 3
    315 x 3
    365 x 3
    405 x 3
    Add 1 board
    455 x 5
    Blast Strap Face Pulls to Rows
    BW x 25 x 20 x 20 x 20 x 20
    Blast Strap Push Ups
    BW x 20 for 6-7 sets
    Tate Press
    55's x 12 x 12 x 12
    KB Leaning Lateral Raises (per arm)
    25 x 15 x 15 x 15
    Today's Training
    Face Pulls
    80 x 25 x 25 x 25 x 25 x 25
    Glute Ham Raises
    BW x 15
    +25 x 12
    +45 x 10 x 10 x 10 x 8
    I dropped the plate after each set and did 3 additional speed reps
    DB Curls
    80's x 8
    65's x 12 x 12 x 12
    Finished with some neck work, pullups and a plank but I don't remember weights/sets for these.

    Other
    Well my meets is next Saturday so today starts the worst week in the life of a powerlifter lol. I pretty much can't do anything fun training wise all next week, have to stretch and foam roll like crazy, manipulate my diet to make weight, and try not to be anxious. I weighed exactly 242 last Saturday before training so I am going to have a fun time making the 220's next week. If you guys want me to log what I am doing to make weight I will add that in but I want to make sure everyone knows up front that I don't recommend cutting weight and definitely don't recommend people doing the same process that I will be doing. With that said I don't use any diuretics or do crazy sweating techniques, mostly just manipulate water/sodium intake.
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    I would like to see the technique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I would like to see the technique.
    Me too.
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    Saturday Training
    Speed Pulls
    365 x 10 singles
    Reverse Hyper
    240 x 20 x 20 x 20
    Ab Wheel Standing
    BW x 10 x 10 x 10
    Tire Drags Backwards
    100 for three trips of 200 ft
    Sunday Training
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    BW x 12 x 12 x 12
    Push Downs
    150 x 25 x 25 x 25 x 25
    Kettle Bell Shrugs
    15's shrugged and held for 5 minutes straight
    Weight Cut
    Last Week my weight topped at around 240+ but I started sodium loading and drinking 2.5-3 gallons of water a day on Wednesday so my weight is down to 230 today. I also have began a low residue/lower carb diet. Here is what my typical day of eating is looking like :
    Breakfast - 2 bananas, 2 scoops whey, little salt in whey
    Lunch- 6 Egg whites + 6 Whole eggs with salt and pepper
    Pre-work Snack- 1 scoop whey, 1 scoop Combat Powder, Tbsp fish oil, a couple pickles or something else I can salt
    Snack #2 - salty nuts
    Dinner - Chicken, olive oil, lettuce mix
    Before Bed - 3 whole eggs

    The big differences with this diet is that I have to stay away from red meat for a week before the meet (sticks with me to long) and I have to pretty much salt everything, which I hate because I am not really a fan of salt.
    Forma
    Its hard to really pinpoint any specific effects from the Forma but I have noticed my face is a little slimmer than usual and I have had a slight increase in libido.
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    Cut
    I haven't really done much in terms of training the past few days, mostly stretching and soft tissue work. My cut is going as planned right now, yesterday I cut out any added sodium and kept my fluids high. Today I cut all virtually all sodium (maybe 200mg all day)and only drank 1 gallon of distilled water.

    Forma
    One thing I noticed about the Forma-stanzol is that I am starting to sweat at night a little bit. Its nothing crazy but definitely noticeable if I wake up in the middle of the night. I will give a more detailed update of the product tomorrow.
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    i to have been experiencing the sweating at night. mine is a bit excessive however (my sheets are drenched with sweat)
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    Well my weight this morning is at 219 according to my bathroom scales so now all I have to do is drive to the meet (4 hours), weigh in there and hope the scales are equal. After that I am going to just load salt, water, and carbs all day until I feel like a marshmallow. If I end up a pound over on the meet scale I will probably just try dropping a deuce or squeezing out a little extra urine but if that all fails then I get to do the old car sauna to sweat out the last pound which I really do not want to have to do.
  

  
 

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