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  1. My first log. The Natabolic stack and whatever else I wanna throw in


    I recently got back into the habit of writing down my workouts, so I thought I would take it a step further and post my workouts plus my supps. I'm hoping this will help me get more focused on the total package and not just training.

    A little background, I'm 37, been working out over 20 years and love to train. Problem was, as long as I got my protein in, I didnt pay much attention to where it was coming from. I was 317 at my heaviest and although I carried it well, my bf% was high so I got myself in gear, focused more on nutrition and in about three months dropped to 255. I noticed I was losing to much muscle along with the fat so changed up my diet and training and now I'm at 265. I've been doing a real slow recomp but it seems to be working.

    As with anyone who has been in the game a long time I've had a nice list of injuries: ruptured a disk about 10 years ago, which still bothers me at times, left rotator cuff, right pec tendon, right bicep, both elbows and occasionally knees.

    Started the Natabolic stack about four days ago. I've done two workouts since I've started. I'm gonna list my last two workouts that I did at the beginning of the month. (had a death in family, then took some time off) Then I'll list the two I did recently and continue from there.

    Taking 8 Natadrol a day plus the two doses of Ghenerate as directed. Also using Asgt as my preworkout and lipotropic protein. Other supps include Animal pack plus some casein.

    My workouts vary but its usually every other day. Right now I do them so that I hit bodyparts every four days. I usually have a heavy style day then the next one will be lighter style. I usually use some type of machine at first then finish with free weights. Cuts back on injuries plus then I don't have to ask for a spot as people avoid spotting in my gym like the plague.

    9-1-10
    fixed pulldowns: 250x9, 250x7
    military press: 135x20, 185x8, 225x5, 245x3
    hammer high row: 3plates x12, 4px5 immediate drop set 3px8, 2px12
    dumbbell laterals: 30x15, 40x12, 50x8, 40x8, 30x12 then a setof 135 overhead on smith machine
    dumbbell rows: 115x12
    front raises: 40x20
    dumbell hammer curls: 35,45,55x10, 65x8
    incline dumbell curl: 25x12, 30x11, 30x8
    one arm machine preachers: 65x12, 65x12

    9-3
    incline smith: 225x20, 275x8
    low incline dumbell press: 60x20, 85x20. 110x20(this was a tainted lift. I actually saw a guy watching me so I had him hand me a dumbell, made the adrenline rush)
    hammer incline: 3plates and a 25x6 with a drop of 3px5, 2px12
    incline barbell: 135x20, 185x12, 225x8
    flat barbell: 135x20, 225x20, 275x6, 295x5
    behind head dumbell ext: 30,40,50x10, 50x10
    cambered bar pushdowns: 130x10
    rope pushdowns: 70x10
    leg press: 6 plates x20
    seated leg curls:110x20

    I started the stack on 9-19
    I take 3 natodrol with breakfast then 3 about 30 min before workout. Two more later in the day. 6 sprays of Ghenerate before I head out the door. I usually feel pw pretty quick. I know with jacked, I take it about ten min before I get to gym and usually feel it kicking in while I'm taking my preworkout stack. So thats when I took the Asgt. Almost three weeks since I've been in the gym.

    9-20
    hammer high row: 3px8
    seated military press: 185x10, 205x8
    fixed pulldowns: 235x7
    dumbell laterals: 25,35,45x10, 55x7, then drop sets of 40,30,20,10,5s
    (this is when I think asgt kicked in)
    reverse pec dec: 175x10,175x8
    dumbell front raises: 30x10, 40x10,45x7
    bent over dumbell rows: 90x10, 11x10, 130x10, 150x7
    dumbell shrugs: 130x15
    dumbell hammer curls:30,40,50x10,60x8
    incline dumbell curls: 30x10, 35x7
    hammer machine preachers: 2px8
    Felt pretty good. Especially after a layoff. Did this in about hour and a half.
    Felt sore next day but was almost gone by the 22nd.

    9-22
    incline smith: 225x12, 275x8, 295x5
    low incline dumbell: 60x20,90x20, 110x12 (got these in place myself,my kick ups suck)
    hammer incline:3px10
    barbell incline: 135x10, 185x10. 225x6( weight felt light, just couldnt push it)
    flat bench: 135x20, 225x15, 275x5(same as before,just couldnt push it up)
    pec dec: 85x20, 145x20, 175x20
    dumbell ext: 30,40,50,x10, 50x7
    rope pushdowns: 60x20, 85x7,drop set of 40x16
    leg press 6 platesx20
    leg curls 110x20
    Had really good energy. Strength wasnt bad considering the layoff. I wanted to mimic the last two workouts for a better comparison. Thats it for tonight.


  2. nice work so far subbing this
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  3. doin work!!!!

  4. Good luck,. kick some arse! Get your post count up and get some photos in this joint!!!
    Think training's hard,. try losing!

  5. Quote Originally Posted by bonscott View Post
    Good luck,. kick some arse! Get your post count up and get some photos in this joint!!!
    I take progress pics regulary. As soon as I hit the big 50 I will post some.

  6. Kewl. I have heard nothing but good things about this stack, from a natty standpoint. This is gonna be fun for you,... and the forum!!! Once again,. good luck!!
    Think training's hard,. try losing!

  7. 9-24
    lat pulldowns: 225x8, 225x7
    biangular shoulder press(palms face each other): 200x12, 225x6
    (machine started making weird noise so I aborted)
    nautilis pullover: 200x11, 225x6
    standing lateral machine: 70x10, 100x12, 117x10 (pause at top each rep)
    biangular pulldowns (palms face in about 45 degrees) 250x10, 287x7
    dumbell laterals: 30x12, 40x12, 40x12
    hammer strength iso row: 3px10, 4px10, 5px10
    t-bar rows: 4px10, 4p+25x6, 5px5 dropset 3px8
    standing overhead press: 135x10, 185x8
    barbell shrugs: 405x12, 495x6 dropset 4px8,3px17,2px20
    dumbell curls: 40x12,50x8
    cambered bar cable curls(wide grip) 90x20, 150x14
    seated arm curl(rotating handle): 50x10, 70x7

    I haven't done this workout since 8-28. My old training partner came into town, and we always try to get together for a workout. Todays workout either met or exceeded what we did then. So far so good.

    Some little side notes. p= plates, when I do drops I rest long enough to rerack the weights I take off, and I know dumbells is spelled with two b's.

    I took 3 natadrol with breakfast then 3 about thirty min before workout. Will take 2 more later. Six sprays Ghenerate before I left out the door, and 1 scoop Asgt about thirty min before workout. That's it for now, I gotta get some chicken n veggies.

  8. 9-26

    Biangular chest press: 287x12, 287x12
    Incline hammer: 3px12 3p+25x10 3p+35x7drop set 3px8 2px12
    Magnum hi incline: 3px12 4px12
    Incline fly/press: 50x12/12 75x10/7
    Machine french press: 250x12 280x7.
    Vbar pushdowns: 120x8 120x6
    Leg ext: 275x12
    Leg press: 8px12 8px12
    Leg curl: 110 x12

    Going into todays workout no soreness except for traps. Recovery seems to be up. feeling slight aggression nothing major though. Took three natadrol with breakfast and three about thirty min before workout. Six sprays ghenerate right before I walked out the door. Gonna take two more natadrol later in the day.

    This is my light chest day, I felt pretty good so I threw in the incline fly/press. Basically I do a set of flys then rotate the dumbells and then do a set of presses. So if I do 12/12 then thats 12 flys/12 presses.

    I've got a lot of nerve damage in my left hamstring from where I ruptured that disk 10 years ago. When It happened I couldn't walk for about a month, and after 3 months couldn't walk for any real distance without pain. I had to have surgery to relieve the pain. I equated it to male childbirth.

    Hard to train hams without it locking up, and I have to be careful training legs, so as not to have my quads over power my hams and create an imbalance plus dont wanna injure that spine again. You can train pretty much around any injury, but blow out that back and it's light out.
    I'm really being active on stretching out the hams. In about a week gonna try to slowly implement barbell squats again. 2009 was the first year I was really able to train traps, Last year I was able to get 8 plates each side ,so who knows maybe deads will be back in the picture soon.
    Been a week on the stack. Liking it so far. Hopefully in a week or two I can start setting some pr's. I've been following Ncaa's and Punthra's lthread and I knew I just had to try this.

  9. hey man solid layout, im in, hard gettin some people for your first log it seems, good luck with the progress i was thinking of testing the natabolic stack later

  10. Quote Originally Posted by TeamT10 View Post
    hey man solid layout, im in, hard gettin some people for your first log it seems, good luck with the progress i was thinking of testing the natabolic stack later
    Thanks. Your not kidding I Check this thing pretty regularly and I'm like man, 6 responces and half are from me lol.
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  11. Good stuff. Will be watching this for sure. Plan on running natabolic stack with eq-plex sometime next year.

  12. 9-28
    fixed pulldowns: 250x10, 250x7
    seated shoulder press: 205x8, 225x5 drop set 185x6,135x7
    hammer high row: 1,2,3px10, 4px6 3px6, 2px8, 1px9 dropsets
    dumbell laterals: 25,35,45x10, 55x9 40x6,30x8,20x12, dropsets
    reverse pec dec: 100x12, 145x10, 190x9
    dumbell front raises: 35x10, 45x10
    bent over dumbell rows: 80x12, 120x10, 150x8
    arnold presses: 40,50,60x10, 70x7
    dumbell shrugs: 80x10, 130x10
    dumbell hammer curls: 40,50,60,x10, 70x8
    incline dumbell curls: 45x6 ( too heavy so aborted, see note)
    one arm machine preacher curls: 50x12, 65x10

    Nine days on stack, still feeling pretty good. Soreness seems to go away quickly. Also noticed elbows arent hurting as much. feeling pretty good. Weighed in today at 265, same as when I started.

    Been following same dosing protocol: 3 natadrol with breakfast 3 about 30 min before workout. 2 later in day. Six sprays ghenerate before I head out the door. One scoop Asgt about 30 min before workout.

    Started off to heavy on incline dumbells. Thats one of those exercises I really like to feel and sqeeze. Was gonna start with 30's and go from there, but right in front of the rack was a trio of guys doing dumbell shrugs...all at the same time...about 6 inches from the rack. They also rested and talked..right in the same spot. So I did the one heavy set and just did something else. This particular gym is geared more of a fitness gym so I don't get to upset about stuff like that. Usually just "sigh" and do something else.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by notanymore View Post
    Good stuff. Will be watching this for sure. Plan on running natabolic stack with eq-plex sometime next year.
    Thanks, appreciate that.

  14. 10-1-2010
    Cybex chest press: 4p+25x8, 4px5, 3px8, 2px12
    cybex pulldowns: 3px12, 2px8, 1px12
    incline dumbell: 110x12, 90x8,70x12,50x15, drop sets then 135x12 incline press no rest
    cybex machine row: 4px12
    cybex shoulder press: 4p+25x8, 4px4, 3px8, 2px13
    dumbell laterals: 40x12x3
    close grip bench press: 225x12, 275x8
    tricep v bar pushdowns: 200x12
    dumbell curls: 35,45,55x10, 55x7, 40x8,30x9 dropset
    21's with 50 then 60 lbs straightbar

    Today wanted to do more off a "fun" style workout. I got company coming into town and I knew it was gonna be hard get away.

    Went to golds for this workout. Not the best gym but has a few different things than the others. Wanted to go heavier on close grips but another no spotting gym.

    Kept same dosing schedule as before. Energy is out of control. I didn't wanna stop and had to pull myself away from the gym. Also I had trouble completing some sets as I was getting a good pump. With my style of training it's harder to get a pump cause of the way I change exercises, but my body just feels swole when I'm done.

  15. Joe,

    First and foremost, happy you got the stack and using ASGT prework. I like how you add personal tidbits as we can all relate to how we may have felt and it affecting our diet/training or our 'comfort' zone. I'm in and will be following. Looks like you are 1 strong fella. There are plenty of them here. Good luck and if you have any questions, let me or any of my teammates know. We're here for ya.

  16. In for this one, great choices all around with Natabolic and AS-GT.
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  17. Nice log. Subbed.

  18. This stack will treat you right. In for the ride and kill those weights.

    NSCA - CSCS

  19. 10-4
    lat pulldowns: 225x8, 250x6 200x7 150x9 dropsets
    biangular shoulder press: 150x15, 200 x12
    nautilis pullover: 150x10, 200x12 150x8 100x6 dropsets
    standing lateral machine: 50x12, 70x12, 100x12, 100x12
    biangular pulldowns: 200x12, 250x12, 287x 8 (palms face in about 45 degrees)
    hammer iso row: 4px12, 5px12 Always do these one arm at a time)
    t-bar rows: 5px8 4px5 3px5 dropsets
    standing overhead press: 135x12, 1325x12
    barbell shrugs: 135x20, 225x20, 315x20
    reverse pec dec: 105x20, 105x20

    I did something to my shoulder either after my last workout or while I was working on the house. Either way I can feel a type of clicking in it and hurts in certain positions. Not to bad but enough to let me know it's there. So spent a lot of time on my off days doing my rotater cuff exercises and stretching.

    I went into this workout knowing I wanted to take it easy, especially on my shoulder. No easy feat as my energy is usually out of control and I really have to fight off the urge to kill some weights.

    I didn't push any of the shoulder moverments. Just took it nice and slow and really concentrated on contracting and squeezing. Got a pretty decent pump from everything but by the time I got to Iso rows I felt like spewing.

    I keep my form pretty tight anyways but the little extra effort and holding the weight longer really caused that "Aw man I'm about to spew feeling". I was gonna do dropsets on Iso row but didn't wanna open gym spew. Course no one prolly would'a noticed as some guy was screaming while doing 5 plates on the legpress.

    On my next workout I'm gonna try to do a full leg workout. I've really been working on stretching out the hams so let's see what happens.

    I kept my normal dosing schedule. Prolly gonna get another bottle and run it for a full 8 weeks. Two weeks on the stack and I'm really liking it so far.

  20. I am in lets see you wage this war!
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  21. What's the update on your shoulder?
    NSCA - CSCS

  22. You move some weight man... 5 plates on the leg press, man that guy is a badass, LOL!
    If my direct and cynical approach bothers you, just ignore it. I'm just saying what you need to hear ;).

  23. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    What's the update on your shoulder?
    It's feeling better. Been doing my rotator cuff exercises and stretches. I'm pretty sure it will be ready by next shoulder day. At least I hope it will be. My old training partner comes into town this weekend and I'm hoping to tackle the 150's on the incline dumbells. Thanks for asking,

  24. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    You move some weight man... 5 plates on the leg press, man that guy is a badass, LOL!
    Thanks, appreciate that. I've seen that guy in there a few times. He usually isn't so bad. That day he was slamming the plates on as he was loading em up. Heard him over my ipod and everything. Then some guy was benching 385 and asked him for a spot so it was game on for him.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by joedf View Post
    It's feeling better. Been doing my rotator cuff exercises and stretches. I'm pretty sure it will be ready by next shoulder day. At least I hope it will be. My old training partner comes into town this weekend and I'm hoping to tackle the 150's on the incline dumbells. Thanks for asking,
    150 on the inclines! 150Db's? or 150lbs on the Barbell? Cause if it's 150 on the Db's, good effing bajesus.
    NSCA - CSCS

  26. Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    150 on the inclines! 150Db's? or 150lbs on the Barbell? Cause if it's 150 on the Db's, good effing bajesus.
    DB's of course. Last time I did dumbell shrugs at golds, I noticed that the 140's and 150's had dust on them. My old training partner is coming into town and we have a chest day scheduled for sat. I'm hoping I can write my initials in the dust lol.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by joedf View Post
    DB's of course. Last time I did dumbell shrugs at golds, I noticed that the 140's and 150's had dust on them. My old training partner is coming into town and we have a chest day scheduled for sat. I'm hoping I can write my initials in the dust lol.
    Damn, 150Db's on the incline is YouTube strength. I could probably handle that kind of weight for shrugs, but incline, damn.
    NSCA - CSCS

  28. 10-6
    Did a small leg workout today. The main purpose was to see how my back and hamstring will respond to doing back squats again. It's been 10 years since I have tried these. Started off with squats. The first thing I noticed is that I have lost a lot of flexibility in my shoulders. It was hard getting the bar set correctly on my traps. After a few warmups with the bar I was ready to try some weight. Remember it's been ten years.

    Barbell squats: 95x15, 135x 10, 185x8, 225x5, 135x10 (none to failure)
    leg press: 8 plates x12
    hack squats: 275x10
    leg ext: 90x12
    seated leg curl: 70x12, 110x8 (left hamstring cramped up)

    Going in I really didn't expect to be able to do more than 135 on squats. getting the form down was difficult and of course the shoulders being so tight didn't help. Now I just have to wait a few days and see what happens with the back.

    If you've ever had any type of back injury then you prolly know about the tightness that occurs in the hips and glutes.. It's like an early warning signal that you've pushed it too much. Usually stretching takes care of this. Main problem is it feels alot like soreness so you have to be careful when doing anything that involves the glutes (squats for instance) cause what may be soreness, is actually damage. I'm hoping all I feel is muscle soreness. I'll really be stretching it out tonight. I train legs regularly, but I don't really "work" them. I'm hoping to change that.

    I wanna thank everyone who has stopped by and who is joining me for this ride.

  29. Oh yeah.... I had a slip disc at L2 a few years back with SEVERE sciatica. I was in daily, min by min pain for a good 9 months from that sciatic nerve pinch. This was probably 7 years back at this point, but my back has never been the same. I re-aggravate the left side of my lumbar all the time, once to the point of being borderline bedridden. That's the real curse when your favorite lift is the Deadlift.

    My wife merely cracked my back the other night and I could still feel the pipeline if you will, of that sciatic nerve and I can feel a numbness, as oppose to a sharp pain of that nerve from my low back down to my left hamstring. I have to be much too careful with my back for my age, but it is what it is, so I'm careful.

    I front squat so I don't need to bend at the hips, as you do in a back squat, that seems to be kosher with my low back, even though I still feel "something" and still have to be careful.
    NSCA - CSCS

  30. 10-7
    hammer high row: 4px8 3px6 2px12 dropsets
    seated shoulder press: 135x20, 185x12,185x12,185x12
    fixed machine pulldowns: 250x9, 250x7 160x15 dropset
    dumbell laterals: 25,35,45x12 45x12 45x11
    reverse pec dec: 110x12,170x12,190x12,205x10
    front dumbell laterals: 35x12 45x12
    bent over dumbell rows: 100x15, 130x15
    dumbell shrugs: 100x20, 130x10
    dumbell hammer curls: 30,40,50,60,70x10, 70x6
    dumbell incline curls: 30x12,35x8
    one arm machine preachers: 40x12,65x8

    I'm still nursing my shoulder so took it easy on the shoulder movements. It's feeling pretty good but didn't wanna push it and mess it up again.

    I'm getting a pretty good pump during my workouts. More of a sustained body pump or feeling more swole while I'm working out and it def is lasting longer outside of the gym. Like I posted earlier, it's hard to get a pump with my style workout but I'm noticing that it's happening more often now.

    My energy level and recovery are outstanding now. I feel like I should be doing a double split or working out every day. I'm sore maybe the day after the workout and that's it. Energy is incredible, I'm leaving the gym feeling like I could still be doing more.

    The idea behind my split was to just do two, maybe three exercises per bodypart then get out of the gym. Then come back to that bodypart four days later, and that's how I was originally doing it. Looking at my logbook, I'm now doing full blown workouts for that bodypart and I'm still recoving nicely.

    I'm still doing my regular dosing schedule. Thinking I may bump it up to ten natradrol next week.
  

  
 

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