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    Main Arsenal:
    2 Bottles Natadrol
    1 Bottle Prime
    1 Bottle TestoPro

    PCT:
    2 Bottles Formadrol
    2 Bottles T-911

    - Icariian 500 (not sure where to place this one. During cycle or PCT? Suggestions wanted, please).

    Supplementary (in case of lethargy. I get lethargic on supplements I shouldn't get lethargy from, but I suspect its usually a case of zealous over-training due to some strange, inherent sense of log obligations).

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    6 caps Natadrol and 6 caps Prime a day (3 caps Icariian 500?). Prime will run out mid-way of the Natadrol run and Iíll transition into the TestoPro at that point, at 6 caps.

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    Iíve recently caught a bug for Olympic Lifting, though I am still bodybuilding as well. Aesthetics will always be a primary element of concern, however, currently, one of my goals are to maximize shoulder stability, core strength, driving power from a front squat, and forearm/grip strength. Basically, the main points associated with successful Olympic Lifting.

    I found a special interest in Olympic Lifting when I realized what it was doing for my traps and forearms. Traps are one of my favorite muscles and the competitor in me really enjoys the performance factor involved in such a technical movement as the O-Snatch. Furthermore, my training partner is an MMA fighter, therefore, my interest in O-lifts and power movements in general ďhadĒ an applicable real world relevance. Power translates to his MMA performance. However, he got a hernia and an ACL tear, but my interest still stuck, at least for the time being.

    My starting weight is 213.5lbs, but I don't expect my weight to fluctuate too much. PRIME is suppose to be a strength & power supp. I've ran it multiple, multiple times, so I know what to keep a feel for and expect. I've never done Natadrol, so we'll see how this goes.

    This is a great video, even if you could careless about O-Lifts, itís just interesting video about the Chinaís Menís National Team.
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    FIRST DAY


    My first day was actually a bit of a wreck, performance wise. If you thought dead lifts had hit & miss days, the Olympic Snatch, being as technical as it is, where even neurological factors can physically influence your performance in a positive or negative manner, can really have polarizing good & bad days. Today was a bad day. For the record, I will have more “bodybuilding” like days where more of you can relate. I may be the only one interested in my Olympic Lifts performances. Side note, all O-lifts are mind boggling exhausting when doing reps.

    Olympic Snatch
    95lbs x 5 reps
    115lbs x 5 reps
    135lbs x 1 rep
    135lbs x 1 reps
    135lbs x (fail)

    - I could tell by the first set that it was going to be a long day and it was.

    Hang Snatch
    95lbs x 5 reps
    115lbs x 1 rep
    115lbs x 1 rep
    115lbs x (fail)

    Off The Ground, Upright Rows, Super Wide Grip (aka Snatch Grip)
    135lbs x 5 reps
    155lbs x 5 reps
    155lbs x 5 reps

    Hang Cleans
    135lbs x 5 reps
    155lbs x 5 reps
    155lbs x 5 reps

    I perform all the hang movements without resetting, meaning, I don’t place the bar down and the stress on your forearms/grip is out-effing-rageous. With raw deads, you at least get a brief relief at the bottom.
    Lastly, I don’t perform these lifts in an optimal fashion to develop power. I perform them with relatively short rests and that’s a no-no for optimal, power performance, “normally,” I do too many reps in the earlier sets and finally, I do too many redundant power movements on the same day. Again, I do this primarily for trap and upper back development and I need higher reps to accomplish this. However, today, my reps were incredibly low, because it was an uncharacteristically bad day. It happens.
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    Not a workout day today. Brief report is that my appetite has noticeably increased. Iíve done 5-6 cycles of PRIME and PRIME never increased my appetite, so Iím assuming it must be the Natadrol. To me, thatís a good and bad thing. The last thing I needed was an increase in appetite. Iím a meso-endo, but I think itíd be more accurately described as an endo-meso, cause my fat@$$ side has more influence in the force. If this appetite increase continues, this will be an inadvertent bulk or if Iím disciplined, a good recomp.

    Odd exercise no one here is going to try, of the day: Snatch Dead Lifts. Basically, itís a dead lift performed with a snatch grip (extremely wide). It places a little more taxation on the upper back/traps and less on the lumbar. However, due to the staring stance being even lower and the lack of stability with having the weight so far up the body, itís almost impossible to handle your regular Deads weight. Itís a nice supplement to Romanian Deads, because Sntach deads stress particular areas in the ROM of the dead lift that Romanianís donít. The stress of the Snatch Dead moves the stress from the Rhomboids/Teres muscles heavily targeted by Romanians to the trap peaks/upper back.
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    Bodybuilding Back Day


    Bodybuilding Back Day. We can put my O-lifts mumbo jumbo to rest today.

    Hammer Strength, Behind The Neck Pull Downs
    180lbs x 10 reps
    200lbs x 8 reps
    220lbs x 6 reps
    220lbs x 5 reps

    Wide Grip, Front Side, Lat Pull Downs
    150lbs x 10 reps
    170lbs x 8 reps
    190lbs x 7 reps
    190lbs x 6 reps

    Wide, Parallel Bars Pull Ups
    BW x 10 reps
    BW x 8 reps
    BW x 7 reps

    Close , Reverse Grip, Lat Pull Downs
    150lbs x 10 reps
    170lbs x 8 reps
    190lbs x 7 reps

    This is only day 3, so I’m not expecting any notable gains for another few days. Nothing special intra-work yet. I’ll certainly share it when the wheels hit the road.
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    No DOMS today from yesterday’s workout. Granted, it wasn’t an “A+” workout, “B” maybe, I would normally feel “SOMETHING” in my upper lats, rhomboids/teres region and nothing. I feel its safe to assume that the enhanced recovery has kicked in.

    Intra Workout Strength: N/A (for now)
    Post workout recovery: B+
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    I’m a Certified Strength & Condition Coach, so I have keys to a performance facility, which I sometimes take advantage of late at night and O-lift there all by myself. It’s also nice because we use Olympic, bumper weights there. However, my primary gym is L.A. Fitness, and my goal is to be able to perform the O-Snatch with 135 easyt enough to do my O-Lifts at L.A. Fitness.

    With Olympic weights, they’re all the same size circumference wise, from 10lbs up through 45’s, so with O-Lifts, you always have the same starting position, due to the weights all being the same size. However, at L.A. Fitness, the quarters are significantly smaller in circumference to the 45’s, so it throws my Snatch off. The timing of when to explode the hips becomes delayed using 25’s, as oppose to 45’s, so I’m trying to get powerful enough to make 45’s my repetition range. Hang’s and everything else doesn’t change from Olympic Weights to L.A. Fitness weights.

    Side note, Olympic Weight 45’s are slightly larger in circumference then steel 45 plates, so dead lifting numbers tend to increase a touch using Olympic weights, because you don’t have to drop as low. I’m a stop & pause dead lifter, but if I weren’t, the added bounce would increase numbers as well.
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    Holla back!

    My gym has a very nice selection of bumper plates, as well as a raised and designated DL pad. I am slowly working my DLs back up, as the cut for my competition wore my dry! My DLs went all the way down to last night's lift of 405 x 2 for drop and full pause reps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Holla back!

    My gym has a very nice selection of bumper plates, as well as a raised and designated DL pad. I am slowly working my DLs back up, as the cut for my competition wore my dry! My DLs went all the way down to last night's lift of 405 x 2 for drop and full pause reps.
    405 x 5 (raw grip/no belt) was my recent best, but whenever I start to touch the 365+ range, my slip disc starts to give me problems again. This time around, I progressed super slow to and I can be problem free as if I never had a slip disc until I start pushing in the 365+ range. That could be part of the shift in obsession, from Deads to O-Lifts. Because I'm a lover of the dead lift, but i think I've quasi come to accept the fact that my suspect lumbar will forever be a limiting factor. I've re-aggravated my lumbar I think 5 times total now, each time when I re-attack dead lifts.

    I haven't given up the heavy deads. I'm going to give it another go, slowly again, but I've armed myself with a sick Inzer belt. I've been one of those, anti belt, anti-wraps guys for awhile, but I think I need to accept my limitations of my lumbar, so I'm belting again.

    This is my new belt, it's 13mm thick and it feels like compressed beef jerky. Very cow hide'ish. It can almost make you hungry.

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    Nice I will follow along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Nice I will follow along.
    Thanks and I like your sig. "If you wish for peace, prepare for war."
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    In for feedback on natadrol. I'm probably starting two bottles soon as well. I've dabble with oly lifts. Primarily oly full squats and the overhead squat. I think overhead squat is great for shoulder stability as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    In for feedback on natadrol. I'm probably starting two bottles soon as well. I've dabble with oly lifts. Primarily oly full squats and the overhead squat. I think overhead squat is great for shoulder stability as well.
    I open my leg days with over-head squats. It's surprising how little amount of weight it takes on that movement to get you drenched in sweat.

    It's amazing for shoulder stability and the core taxation puts England to shame. Overhead and Front squats are my two, current staple openers. Both are absolutely relevant, performance beneficiary-wise to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    405 x 5 (raw grip/no belt) was my recent best, but whenever I start to touch the 365+ range, my slip disc starts to give me problems again. This time around, I progressed super slow to and I can be problem free as if I never had a slip disc until I start pushing in the 365+ range. That could be part of the shift in obsession, from Deads to O-Lifts. Because I'm a lover of the dead lift, but i think I've quasi come to accept the fact that my suspect lumbar will forever be a limiting factor. I've re-aggravated my lumbar I think 5 times total now, each time when I re-attack dead lifts.

    I haven't given up the heavy deads. I'm going to give it another go, slowly again, but I've armed myself with a sick Inzer belt. I've been one of those, anti belt, anti-wraps guys for awhile, but I think I need to accept my limitations of my lumbar, so I'm belting again.

    This is my new belt, it's 13mm thick and it feels like compressed beef jerky. Very cow hide'ish. It can almost make you hungry.

    Nice latch belt! I am using an old leather prong belt from the paleolithic era, which serves me well.

    My recent best before going into full-on competition diet mode was 435 x 2, so my strength was obviously significantly reduced. This was partly a deliberate move, however, as I altered my workout strategies to compensate for the complete lack of joint lubrication during contest prep!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Nice latch belt! I am using an old leather prong belt from the paleolithic era, which serves me well.
    LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    My recent best before going into full-on competition diet mode was 435 x 2, so my strength was obviously significantly reduced. This was partly a deliberate move, however, as I altered my workout strategies to compensate for the complete lack of joint lubrication during contest prep!
    That's pretty impressive. I may have attempted 425 for a single while on high carbs, quasi-recently. Prior to my slip disc, my best was 495 x 2, but I don't ever expect to see those numbers again.

    I had a short stint with my post-marital cut that didn't last more then 5 weeks and I recall performing deads on low/no carbs and 365 was unreasonably difficulty. I actually had a brief pass-out while doing 405's while on low/no carbs.

    Kudos on sticking to such a disciplined venture as competing as a (relatively) newly wed. Being a diet & aesthetics nazi was much, much easier when I was single. I still care about aesthetics of course, but there has certainly been a shift in priorities since marriage life.
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    Alright Im just going to say this to make myself feel better 545 no belt and 585 with a belt. That being said Im a midget and have a super short ROM plus I am a little heavier. Oh and yall are by far more aesthetically pleasing lol.

    And thanks it is a good sig. Figured I would keep it basic instead of promoting my logs like usual.
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    Volc, you dropping into a front squat for your snatch-catch?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Alright Im just going to say this to make myself feel better 545 no belt and 585 with a belt. That being said Im a midget and have a super short ROM plus I am a little heavier. Oh and yall are by far more aesthetically pleasing lol.

    And thanks it is a good sig. Figured I would keep it basic instead of promoting my logs like usual.
    LOL, midget. Still, that's a ton of weight. I've actually never seen that much weight pushed in person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Volc, you dropping into a front squat for your snatch-catch?
    I drop into hams to calves on my Cleans (bar in front squat position) if that's what you mean. I only slightly break parallel on my Snatch (bar overhead).

    My wrist flexibility isn't good enough to hold the bar in catch position with a full grasp. I can only hold it there with three fingers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    LOL, midget. Still, that's a ton of weight. I've actually never seen that much weight pushed in person.
    Serious? U guys are talking about deadlifts right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I had a short stint with my post-marital cut that didn't last more then 5 weeks and I recall performing deads on low/no carbs and 365 was unreasonably difficulty. I actually had a brief pass-out while doing 405's while on low/no carbs.

    Kudos on sticking to such a disciplined venture as competing as a (relatively) newly wed. Being a diet & aesthetics nazi was much, much easier when I was single. I still care about aesthetics of course, but there has certainly been a shift in priorities since marriage life.
    It is difficult, and it was actually compounded as I went through surgery to correct a neurological deficit that was causing me some issues! The DLs on a cut feel like you are being punished for something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    Serious? U guys are talking about deadlifts right?
    I go to a very casual-gym-goer public gym. Not a lot of serious lifters there. Dead lifts aren't big here in Southern California or something, at least not at L.A. Fitness.

    I never thought my personal numbers of 405-495 were anything special, cause I know guys at smaller, Gold's, Bulldog type gyms put up 500+ all day, but for L.A. Fitness, my numbers were beastly. I can count maybe 5 guys who can dead lift over 405 at L.A. Fitness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I go to a very casual-gym-goer public gym. Not a lot of serious lifters there. Dead lifts aren't big here in Southern California or something, at least not at L.A. Fitness.

    I never thought my personal numbers of 405-495 were anything special, cause I know guys at smaller, Gold's, Bulldog type gyms put up 500+ all day, but for L.A. Fitness, my numbers were beastly. I can count maybe 5 guys who can dead lift over 405 at L.A. Fitness.
    Oh ok that makes sense. Where I go right now isnt deadlift friendly. It is an Air Force base fitness center. I would def say my deadlift is close to the top which is sad.

    Well just keep on chugging along and maybe others will join suit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    It is difficult, and it was actually compounded as I went through surgery to correct a neurological deficit that was causing me some issues! The DLs on a cut feel like you are being punished for something.
    GSP would be proud of your perseverance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    GSP would be proud of your perseverance.
    What are your thoughts on GSP/Kos II?

    I appreciate people building up Koschek as a credible contender, but, I honestly cannot see this fight turning out well for him.

    While Koshcek's boxing has significantly improved since then, and his most recent win over Paul Daley showed a renewed commitment to effectively using top control wrestling, I honestly cannot say he poses a significant danger to GSP.

    In evidence of that, I would point to their experiences with the most recent shared opponent between the two, Thiago Alves. Whereas Koschek was not only unable to complete a single TD in the bout, but also was completely nullified by Thiago on the feet, GSP thoroughly manhandled Thiago with the TD and (in my opinion) appreciably won the stand-up exchanges with him.

    Even if Kos diligently trains his wrestling, I think GSP's size advantage and MMA wrestling prowess will prove to be too much for Fraggle Rock. Honestly, I feel the biggest threat to GSP's title was Thiago Alves, and we saw how that turned out.
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    Subbed fo sho!! Happy to see how you like the stack. It looks like a sweet one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    I drop into hams to calves on my Cleans (bar in front squat position) if that's what you mean. I only slightly break parallel on my Snatch (bar overhead).

    My wrist flexibility isn't good enough to hold the bar in catch position with a full grasp. I can only hold it there with three fingers.
    Yeah that's what I mean - I've never been able to manage squatting all the way down in my snatches. That, in and of itself is by far the hardest par of the lift for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    What are your thoughts on GSP/Kos II?

    I appreciate people building up Koschek as a credible contender, but, I honestly cannot see this fight turning out well for him.

    While Koshcek's boxing has significantly improved since then, and his most recent win over Paul Daley showed a renewed commitment to effectively using top control wrestling, I honestly cannot say he poses a significant danger to GSP.

    In evidence of that, I would point to their experiences with the most recent shared opponent between the two, Thiago Alves. Whereas Koschek was not only unable to complete a single TD in the bout, but also was completely nullified by Thiago on the feet, GSP thoroughly manhandled Thiago with the TD and (in my opinion) appreciably won the stand-up exchanges with him.

    Even if Kos diligently trains his wrestling, I think GSP's size advantage and MMA wrestling prowess will prove to be too much for Fraggle Rock. Honestly, I feel the biggest threat to GSP's title was Thiago Alves, and we saw how that turned out.
    I think the greatest determining factor as to who's wrestling will prevail superior, in particular TD success, will be striking and I think GSP is the more dynamic striker. I made up an odd sounding oxymoron about GSP. He has the most unpredictably, predictable TD's. You are 100% certain they are coming, but you can almost never see them coming.

    Dynamic striking masks a good TD. Both are acclimated enough to stuff each others TD's with a decent sprawl, especially if you fight with a wrestler/striker hybrid stance like Rashad, always remaining sprawl ready. However, the threat of dynamic striking forces you out of that sprawl ready stance and obstructs your mind, which is why I think GSP's TD's are so successful. Arguably, he lacks KO power, but his strikes are dynamic and threatening enough to mask a coming TD, even when the opponent knows to be TDD ready at all times against him. You can only learn to sprawl so good. Fighters hardly suffer from lack of sprawl technique, (save for Gegard Mousasi) its lack of foresight of a TD well masked behind dynamic striking and GSP excels at that.

    Maia vs Silva and Aoki vs Melendez were great examples of fighters with arguably good TD ability, technique-wise, but zero striking threat to set it up. Apart from GSP's obvious power advantages, I think what primarily separates his TD's from other fighters, is his dynamic striking. There's no real comfort zone against him, you have to worry about it all.

    Kos has good striking, arguably greater power, but I don't see GSP getting into a wild, punching flurry with Kos and I certainly don't see Kos picking a window open enough to launch a KO punch.

    As for top control or bottom defense. GSP seems more dynamic in his top control then Kos as well. GSP transitions better and I think he has better general grasp of "MMA" wrestling then Kos. The only discrepancy is that I think we may see GSP on his back at some point for the first time and I can't speak on that. I haven't seen the reinvigorated Samurai GSP on his back yet.

    Overall, I think GSP is and should be heavily favored. Kos did look good against Semtex, but Semtex was looking for the KO most of the time and when you've got someone looking to throw bombs, the TD is usually there for the taking and GSP won't be doing that.

    People keep focusing on the wrestling comparison between the two, but it's the striking that will makes GSP's wrestling the greater threat.
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    Yeah that's what I mean - I've never been able to manage squatting all the way down in my snatches. That, in and of itself is by far the hardest par of the lift for me.
    Watching women Olympic lifters can get depressing. They have the core strength to go hams to calves on snatches and with more weight then what I can handle.... here, join in my depression. Watch their lats at the catch and their quads as well.

    Watch until the second lifter, Pawina Thongsuk of Thailand. Her quads are outrageous and she has the face of Tony Jaa.

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    For the record, all MMA talk is welcomed and encouraged in here. Even if you could give a two-bit rats arse about Natadrol or Prime. I'd love it if you were here solely to talk MMA. All are welcomed except Frank Mir fans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Watching women Olympic lifters can get depressing. They have the core strength to go hams to calves on snatches and with more weight then what I can handle.... here, join in my depression. Watch their lats at the catch and their quads as well.

    Watch until the second lifter, Pawina Thongsuk of Thailand. Her quads are outrageous and she has the face of Tony Jaa.
    That was awesome. Popova's speed in her clean and jerk was phenomenal, and I was surprised by the wide stance taken by the the 3rd lifter.
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    I think the greatest determining factor as to who's wrestling will prevail superior, in particular TD success, will be striking and I think GSP is the more dynamic striker. I made up an odd sounding oxymoron about GSP. He has the most unpredictably, predictable TD's. You are 100% certain they are coming, but you can almost never see them coming.

    Dynamic striking masks a good TD. Both are acclimated enough to stuff each others TD's with a decent sprawl, especially if you fight with a wrestler/striker hybrid stance like Rashad, always remaining sprawl ready. However, the threat of dynamic striking forces you out of that sprawl ready stance and obstructs your mind, which is why I think GSP's TD's are so successful. Arguably, he lacks KO power, but his strikes are dynamic and threatening enough to mask a coming TD, even when the opponent knows to be TDD ready at all times against him. You can only learn to sprawl so good. Fighters hardly suffer from lack of sprawl technique, (save for Gegard Mousasi) its lack of foresight of a TD well masked behind dynamic striking and GSP excels at that.

    Maia vs Silva and Aoki vs Melendez were great examples of fighters with arguably good TD ability, technique-wise, but zero striking threat to set it up. Apart from GSP's obvious power advantages, I think what primarily separates his TD's from other fighters, is his dynamic striking. There's no real comfort zone against him, you have to worry about it all.

    Kos has good striking, arguably greater power, but I don't see GSP getting into a wild, punching flurry with Kos and I certainly don't see Kos picking a window open enough to launch a KO punch.

    As for top control or bottom defense. GSP seems more dynamic in his top control then Kos as well. GSP transitions better and I think he has better general grasp of "MMA" wrestling then Kos. The only discrepancy is that I think we may see GSP on his back at some point for the first time and I can't speak on that. I haven't seen the reinvigorated Samurai GSP on his back yet.

    Overall, I think GSP is and should be heavily favored. Kos did look good against Semtex, but Semtex was looking for the KO most of the time and when you've got someone looking to throw bombs, the TD is usually there for the taking and GSP won't be doing that.

    People keep focusing on the wrestling comparison between the two, but it's the striking that will makes GSP's wrestling the greater threat.
    Really could not agree more. What really lies at the nexus of GSP's unpredictable TD is that, along with the dynamic striking you mention, his footwork is both impeccable and belies the takedown which is ultimately to come.

    Whereas other wrestlers maintain a an open footed stance (from lead to back foot) in order to keep the lead leg out for a shot (at the risk of suffering leg kicks) GSP maintains more of an orthodox kickboxing style, but changes levels and powers through the double leg extremely well. The maintenance of a more orthodox striking stance almost completely negates the ability of his opponents to time the TD properly, and in addition, also leaves them more susceptible to his strikes as a consequence - in my opinion, that is precisely why GSP is effective in both realms.

    On top of that, unlike Josh Koshchek's million-mile-shot, GSP does a more than adequate job of setting up his TDs from various distances and levels, which adds an even further element of unpredictability to his grappling game. I think this becomes compounded by the fact he rarely exchanges strikes in the pocket, and chooses instead to strike and circle to his opponent's weak side immediately after the jab or leg kick, from which point he sets up an off-balance opponent.

    I would also mention that I consider GSP's top control and guard to be superior to Koshcek's as well, which is why GSP has been on his back - even after facing Fitch - for less than two minutes since 2006, or some such ungodly figure. While Koschek's collegiate (folkstyle) wrestling ought to represent a style more conducive to top control wrestling than GSP's internationally-based wrestling style (which favors TDs over pins, for scoring in particular), GSP compliments his wrestling with an adept guard. If Kos does manage to take GSP down, there is almost no risk for a submission and GSP's hip positioning and posture control, I feel, are too proficient to allow for any danger in that regard.

    In terms of entertainment perspective, I simply hope GSP turns into more of the vicious GNP-GSP ala Fitch/Penn II, rather than the BJJ-centric GSP ala Hardy. The fact he is not actively training at Renzo's academy for this camp, and is training with Roach, makes me suspect the former.
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    Natadrol: The main symptom I've already begun to experience is a veracious appetite. I'd have to say my caloric intake has probably increased 25% in the last couple of days. Furthermore, during T, W, Thursdays, I have to do my S&C stuff at 6:00am, so I always take some form of fat burner on those days, strictly for the energy. I took 2 caps of Adrenaline in the morning yesterday and 2 caps of Adrenaline at 1:00pm (where I work at a law firm from 9-5 and have recently received a dual computer monitor set up, so I feel like Tom Cruise in Vanilla Sky, anyway, and I ate at 1:30pm). Although I've been experiencing an increase in appetite since day 2 of my cycle, yesterday was my first day where a fat burner, along with all it's appetite suppressing properties were involved, yet nonetheless, by 2:30'ish pm, I suddenly felt serious hunger pains, almost a hypoglycemic like hunger. Apart from that, nothing else of note has occurred, but I'll touch a little more on that next.

    Prime: Historically, I'm a hyper-responder to Prime. I seem to respond to Prime faster then most and more drastically then most, which is why I've ran Prime 5 or 6 times, it just seems to be my supp. Historically, I would have experienced some strength gains or at least some added muscle endurance. I haven't yet, but I'm fairly confident I know why.

    Whatever Prime does, it effects my muscle strength tremendously, but for me, those signs of induced strength come primarily in the realm of machines, smiths or anything that does not take into account the limitations of stabilizers. I'm almost certain if I had done something machine, hammer or smith-wise this morning, I would have moved more poundage and/or increased repetition. This is just my personal experience and my personal limitations.

    However, the run is still young and I'm excited to see what happens when the Natadrol and Prime become fully active in my system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    That was awesome. Popova's speed in her clean and jerk was phenomenal, and I was surprised by the wide stance taken by the the 3rd lifter.
    The short haired girl in the blue who grunts. I'm 100% for women weight lifting, bodybuilding, power lifting, whatever, but those grunts she let out wasn't like a (relatively) "normal" grunt like you hear when women play tennis or even push hard in the gym, but it was like a deep, death metal singer grunt. It just wasn't natural, but yeah, she did take an abnormally wide stance. It would technically cut down on the time for descending to stabilizing, but it'd be a funky lift off. Sumo Cleans or something.
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    Really could not agree more. What really lies at the nexus of GSP's unpredictable TD is that, along with the dynamic striking you mention, his footwork is both impeccable and belies the takedown which is ultimately to come.

    Whereas other wrestlers maintain a an open footed stance (from lead to back foot) in order to keep the lead leg out for a shot (at the risk of suffering leg kicks) GSP maintains more of an orthodox kickboxing style, but changes levels and powers through the double leg extremely well. The maintenance of a more orthodox striking stance almost completely negates the ability of his opponents to time the TD properly, and in addition, also leaves them more susceptible to his strikes as a consequence - in my opinion, that is precisely why GSP is effective in both realms.

    On top of that, unlike Josh Koshchek's million-mile-shot, GSP does a more than adequate job of setting up his TDs from various distances and levels, which adds an even further element of unpredictability to his grappling game. I think this becomes compounded by the fact he rarely exchanges strikes in the pocket, and chooses instead to strike and circle to his opponent's weak side immediately after the jab or leg kick, from which point he sets up an off-balance opponent.

    I would also mention that I consider GSP's top control and guard to be superior to Koshcek's as well, which is why GSP has been on his back - even after facing Fitch - for less than two minutes since 2006, or some such ungodly figure. While Koschek's collegiate (folkstyle) wrestling ought to represent a style more conducive to top control wrestling than GSP's internationally-based wrestling style (which favors TDs over pins, for scoring in particular), GSP compliments his wrestling with an adept guard. If Kos does manage to take GSP down, there is almost no risk for a submission and GSP's hip positioning and posture control, I feel, are too proficient to allow for any danger in that regard.

    In terms of entertainment perspective, I simply hope GSP turns into more of the vicious GNP-GSP ala Fitch/Penn II, rather than the BJJ-centric GSP ala Hardy. The fact he is not actively training at Renzo's academy for this camp, and is training with Roach, makes me suspect the former.
    Certainly. I think Kos will be over-prepared for wrestling, but the real 3 finger shocker is going to be what he experiences from GSP when they're on their feet. Much like how Thiago Alves was suppose to eat GSP alive on their feet, but actually got out struck by GSP (along with the TD's at will).

    However, watching Alves mind fek himself about GSP's striking x TD's was kind of sad, but the index, middle finger and pinky was too far up at that point; he caught the French-Canadian Shocker and there's no recovering from that once it's in place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Certainly. I think Kos will be over-prepared for wrestling, but the real 3 finger shocker is going to be what he experiences from GSP when they're on their feet. Much like how Thiago Alves was suppose to eat GSP alive on their feet, but actually got out struck by GSP (along with the TD's at will).

    However, watching Alves mind fek himself about GSP's striking x TD's was kind of sad, but the index, middle finger and pinky was too far up at that point; he caught the French-Canadian Shocker and there's no recovering from that once it's in place.
    It was, actually. Unlike Hardy, you saw Alves' will break in that fight. By the third round, he was panting and the look in his face was one of complete unawareness.

    By the time Kos realizes the shaft has reached penetration, GSP will already be bathing the dog.
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    Today was suppose to be a rest day, because I was exhausted, but I really wanted to lift. I sat in the gym parking for 20 min debating whether I have the energy or not and eventually, I just walked on in and decided to see what I've got in me.


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    I felt I could have gone on, but something felt off in my lower back at the second rep with 550, but I fought for a 3rd anyway, so I'll see how this turns out.

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    I didn't pyramid the weight because my lower back felt suspect after my last set of racks.

    I was pleased with the rack deads, but of course they are only rack deads. I feel I could have done more. I'm fairly certain I could have handled 6 plates, but my lower back may have been aggravated. I said I've been meaning to take it slow on my lumbar, so I didn't perform Romanian's and stuck with racks, however, I've managed to over do it with those as well.
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