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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Just be careful. There's a fine line between committed and crazy. Just trying to make sure you don't re-injure yourself and set yourself back. That would suck.
    Yah, were always walking that fine line...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Just be careful. There's a fine line between committed and crazy. Just trying to make sure you don't re-injure yourself and set yourself back. That would suck.
    Oh AG is undoubtably crazy regardless. Hope the knee heals quickly and fully!
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    lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
    however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
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    Props to you Major!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
    however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
    Lol

    But so very true
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
    however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
    Actually, I think I saw a vibrating dumbbell on one of those late-night infomercials the other night...lol.
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    I wont even comment on what i think those vibrating dumbells workouts look like...but i bet im not the only one who thought that.


    Hey a little insanity is a necessity if one wants to makes something of themselves. I think we all can relate to being the crazy guy out of the group(unless you have the good fortune of running with a pack of fellow nuts). Its just understood....we are crazy and its ok they love us anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
    HI-OOOOH!!!!!

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    HI-OOOOH!!!!!

    ah-cha-cha
    Dynamic Inertia, huh?

    Sounds like a fancy term for........


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    lol you guys are killing me!!! Love the pic and vids!!!

    quick update. Hit the gym this morning and was going to do back and biceps, but did back and legs in stead. The biceps were a bit fatigued from the back workout and I want maximum push when I hit them as they are by far my worst upper body muscle group
    Back
    6 sets of 10-15 reps pull downs both wide and narrow grip
    stayed around 200lbs
    5 sets one arm rows
    pyramid from 1 plate per side up to 5 per side. got 15 reps on all but the last set with the 5 plates
    decided to try DL with the knee. Only did 135 for obvious reasons. I want to form to be absolutely perfect on these. only did 2 sets. Form was shaky on the 1st few reps set one and the last few set 2 with the knee adjusting to the weight again. The bending of the knee was what kept the form a bit shaky. There was a bit of pain, but it was rehab pain not "what the hell are you doing?" pain, so that was good
    Legs
    single leg extensions
    only did 37lbs here for obvious reasons. Nice and slow fighting through the pain, but the good pain not the bad
    4 sets
    leg press
    up to 100lbs for 4 sets. Knee felt good on these
    calf raises
    4 sets
    abs
    bike for 15 minutes and the pressure on the knee was good. The knee felt good upon leaving, no pain at all just a little soreness. Nice and slow, but pretty happy with the first time on legs since getting cut open!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol thanks guys, and I think one has to be a bit on the insane side in order to do what we do. It seems perfectly normal to us, but the rest of the world looks at the pain we put our bodies through and calls us nuts!!!
    however these are the same schmucks who want a miracle pill or a miracle vibrating dumbbell to save them from the fat lazy turds that they are...
    I was trying to explain the love of pain to some co-workers yesterday, the best I could come up with is that I can feel the difference between good pain and injury and I like the good pain... I crave it... relish it ... make it last.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Actually, I think I saw a vibrating dumbbell on one of those late-night infomercials the other night...lol.
    Maybe it was the industrial size regular vibrator... you know.. for the big ladies...
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    Nice to see the leg holding up mate, respect

    Great job
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    Are you using knee wraps AG?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Maybe it was the industrial size regular vibrator... you know.. for the big ladies...
    Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, DW!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    lol you guys are killing me!!! Love the pic and vids!!!

    quick update. Hit the gym this morning and was going to do back and biceps, but did back and legs in stead. The biceps were a bit fatigued from the back workout and I want maximum push when I hit them as they are by far my worst upper body muscle group
    Back
    6 sets of 10-15 reps pull downs both wide and narrow grip
    stayed around 200lbs
    5 sets one arm rows
    pyramid from 1 plate per side up to 5 per side. got 15 reps on all but the last set with the 5 plates
    decided to try DL with the knee. Only did 135 for obvious reasons. I want to form to be absolutely perfect on these. only did 2 sets. Form was shaky on the 1st few reps set one and the last few set 2 with the knee adjusting to the weight again. The bending of the knee was what kept the form a bit shaky. There was a bit of pain, but it was rehab pain not "what the hell are you doing?" pain, so that was good
    Legs
    single leg extensions
    only did 37lbs here for obvious reasons. Nice and slow fighting through the pain, but the good pain not the bad
    4 sets
    leg press
    up to 100lbs for 4 sets. Knee felt good on these
    calf raises
    4 sets
    abs
    bike for 15 minutes and the pressure on the knee was good. The knee felt good upon leaving, no pain at all just a little soreness. Nice and slow, but pretty happy with the first time on legs since getting cut open!
    Proud of you Major, it must have taken a lot of restraint not to push it. Well done on the rest of the workout, you are seriously a beast on some of your exercises!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I was trying to explain the love of pain to some co-workers yesterday, the best I could come up with is that I can feel the difference between good pain and injury and I like the good pain... I crave it... relish it ... make it last.
    yeah I am not that successful explaining this either... uggghhhhh
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    Nice to see the leg holding up mate, respect

    Great job
    thanks my friend!!
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    Are you using knee wraps AG?
    I have some kind of ninja knee wrap thing from my last surgery that I use. It is uncomfortable, but holds things together for the time being
    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, DW!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ex-tightend83 View Post
    Bwahahahahahahaha!!! Good one, DW!!!
    lol yah and I was thinking the extra large vibrator and the big lady is a good way to describe our obsession with pain... They both hurt but it feels good... a rather unpleasant metaphor imagery wise but it drives home the point...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    lol yah and I was thinking the extra large vibrator and the big lady is a good way to describe our obsession with pain... They both hurt but it feels good... a rather unpleasant metaphor imagery wise but it drives home the point...
    Give me the big girl but you can DEFINITELY keep the vibrator. Pass-a-dena!!!
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    Anything "ninja" is always pre-approved.

    However, I would suggest INZER triple strapped knee wraps. If the ninja wrap no longer suffices.
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    I am thinking about purchasing knee wraps myself but I read somewhere that just like belts, you do not want your body to get used to support. As long as you do the exercise properly then you will be fine. It this true?
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    Feel you on the knee thing AG, I am going cautiously on my own until I can put some more money in my HSA to pay for meniscus surgery
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    Quote Originally Posted by oafinest View Post
    I am thinking about purchasing knee wraps myself but I read somewhere that just like belts, you do not want your body to get used to support. As long as you do the exercise properly then you will be fine. It this true?
    Depends how heavy you go. Your knees hardly ever perform "bad form" on a squat or dead lift. It's a hinge joint, it only moves in two directions during a squat or dead lift. The only joints that suffers from bad form are the shoulder and wrist joints and that's because they're multi-directional. Elbows, knees, only move in one or two directions (elbows can't hyper-extend, so they technically only move in one direction, flexion). Joint issues arrive from cumulative stress and your personal genetics will determine whether you get them or not. However, lifting heavy and straining those joints over time will more then likely move you into the "will have" margin.

    Also, Knee Wraps are nothing like Belts in principle. Belts may caused diminished natural core strength, core strength is a muscle issue. Knee wraps don't cause a diminish of anything (except for injuries) because you don't have knee bone muscles. You're protecting a hinge with a knee wrap. With a belt, your protecting your spine, but in the process, the belt effects how your abs and spinal erector muscles co-contract (aka your core).

    How you know whether someone's advice is good or not, isn't about what they tell you what you should and shouldn't do, it's if they can reasonably explain why you should or shouldn't do it. Otherwise, its more like a myth then sound advice.

    The only type of tissues around a knee joint, are cartilage, ligaments and tendons and they don't contract, they just hold things together, therefore, you're not taking anything away with a wrap. With a belt, the pressure causes a false contraction, so the core doesn't necessarily have to contract as hard to create stability and that is the theory as to why belts diminish natural core strength, over time.

    and knowing is half the battle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Depends how heavy you go. Your knees hardly ever perform "bad form" on a squat or dead lift. It's a hinge joint, it only moves in two directions during a squat or dead lift. The only joints that suffers from bad form are the shoulder and wrist joints and that's because they're multi-directional. Elbows, knees, only move in one or two directions (elbows can't hyper-extend, so they technically only move in one direction, flexion). Joint issues arrive from cumulative stress and your personal genetics will determine whether you get them or not. However, lifting heavy and straining those joints over time will more then likely move you into the "will have" margin.

    Also, Knee Wraps are nothing like Belts in principle. Belts may caused diminished natural core strength, core strength is a muscle issue. Knee wraps don't cause a diminish of anything (except for injuries) because you don't have knee bone muscles. You're protecting a hinge with a knee wrap. With a belt, your protecting your spine, but in the process, the belt effects how your abs and spinal erector muscles co-contract (aka your core).

    How you know whether someone's advice is good or not, isn't about what they tell you what you should and shouldn't do, it's if they can reasonably explain why you should or shouldn't do it. Otherwise, its more like a myth then sound advice.

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    That all makes me sound smart for not wearing a belt except for maxing but dumb for never using knee wraps lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Depends how heavy you go. Your knees hardly ever perform "bad form" on a squat or dead lift. It's a hinge joint, it only moves in two directions during a squat or dead lift. The only joints that suffers from bad form are the shoulder and wrist joints and that's because they're multi-directional. Elbows, knees, only move in one or two directions (elbows can't hyper-extend, so they technically only move in one direction, flexion). Joint issues arrive from cumulative stress and your personal genetics will determine whether you get them or not. However, lifting heavy and straining those joints over time will more then likely move you into the "will have" margin.

    Also, Knee Wraps are nothing like Belts in principle. Belts may caused diminished natural core strength, core strength is a muscle issue. Knee wraps don't cause a diminish of anything (except for injuries) because you don't have knee bone muscles. You're protecting a hinge with a knee wrap. With a belt, your protecting your spine, but in the process, the belt effects how your abs and spinal erector muscles co-contract (aka your core).

    How you know whether someone's advice is good or not, isn't about what they tell you what you should and shouldn't do, it's if they can reasonably explain why you should or shouldn't do it. Otherwise, its more like a myth then sound advice.

    The only type of tissues around a knee joint, are cartilage, ligaments and tendons and they don't contract, they just hold things together, therefore, you're not taking anything away with a wrap. With a belt, the pressure causes a false contraction, so the core doesn't necessarily have to contract as hard to create stability and that is the theory as to why belts diminish natural core strength, over time.

    and knowing is half the battle.

    Excellent post man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    decided to try DL with the knee. Only did 135 for obvious reasons. I want to form to be absolutely perfect on these. only did 2 sets. Form was shaky on the 1st few reps set one and the last few set 2 with the knee adjusting to the weight again. The bending of the knee was what kept the form a bit shaky. There was a bit of pain, but it was rehab pain not "what the hell are you doing?" pain, so that was good
    This is what sets you apart from everyone else AG. You're determined to show that leg who's boss. Deadlifts ~2 weeks after surgery? Madness!?! SPARTA!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    Legs
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    only did 37lbs here for obvious reasons. Nice and slow fighting through the pain, but the good pain not the bad
    4 sets
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    up to 100lbs for 4 sets. Knee felt good on these
    I've been meaning to ask you if you were doing uni-lateral exercises for the good leg.
    Some heavy single-legged leg presses are spectacular. Even if you're not injured. It's a good way to mix up things up.
    But this way you can keep your good leg's strength up to maximum levels while re-habbing the repaired knee. Go heavy with the good leg and light with the bad one until it catches up.
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    If you lose core strength by using a belt, I have the solution ... wheel of death... it's that simple.
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    I actually use my belt quite often as i find it helps keep my stomach tight and it helps prevent the dreaded "COLEMAN ABS" when your stomach is pushing hard to stay tight. But that's just my opinion...So it really doesn't mean much when there's no science behind it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punthra View Post
    I actually use my belt quite often as i find it helps keep my stomach tight and it helps prevent the dreaded "COLEMAN ABS" when your stomach is pushing hard to stay tight. But that's just my opinion...So it really doesn't mean much when there's no science behind it.
    Coleman abs are from HGH use
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    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    I've been meaning to ask you if you were doing uni-lateral exercises for the good leg.
    Some heavy single-legged leg presses are spectacular. Even if you're not injured. It's a good way to mix up things up.
    But this way you can keep your good leg's strength up to maximum levels while re-habbing the repaired knee. Go heavy with the good leg and light with the bad one until it catches up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Coleman abs are from HGH use
    Yah that's what I was thinking...
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    Quote Originally Posted by punthra View Post
    I actually use my belt quite often as i find it helps keep my stomach tight and it helps prevent the dreaded "COLEMAN ABS" when your stomach is pushing hard to stay tight. But that's just my opinion...So it really doesn't mean much when there's no science behind it.
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    Coleman abs are from HGH use
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    Yah that's what I was thinking...
    I thought he swallowed a sea turtle whole....

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    arrrr matey
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    His abs were fairly messed up even before he hit the sauce though. I think it may correlate to all that pressure on the stomach wall during heavy lifts. But like i said before, that's just my own opinion.
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    It is both, the belly out/belly full training of powerlifting trains them out to make a thicker tree trunk if you will, to support the weight as opposed to doing them with a body building intention and forcing yourself to keep your core cinched in. However growth hormone and oversized internal organs are the cause of most professionals bloating. When you train your abs out the distend when you train them in the girdle stays tighter keeping them in closer to your spine.
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    I like what Melvin Anthony had to say about the protuding stomachs on some pros. He said his waist is still so small (28 inches) because he does what women do. And that is intentionally sucking in his gut all day long. It keeps the abs tight and flexed. You can't just let you gut hang out and unflexed. It will droop and sag. LOL
    I truly believe this practice helps.

    But the GH is what is doing the turtle shell stomachs on these guys. It doesn't just make your muscles grow, but your internal organs as well as MrKleen alluded to. .
    I'm not sure this is a healthy thing either.

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