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  1. Axis Labs Myodrol


    So I've had 2 bottles of Myodrol on hand now for a bit, and it's time to log it. Myodrol is a patented formula licensed by Axis, and it has a clinical study behind it:

    Here is the Triarco (patent holders) website:

    MyTosterone Home - Triarco Industries, Inc.

    And here is the study:

    An open label, dose response study to determine the effect of a dietary supplement on dihydrotestosterone, testosterone and estradiol levels in healthy males

    Fru Angwafor III1* email and Mark L Anderson2* email

    1 Yaounde Teaching Hospital, Head of Urological Service Department, University of Yaounde, Cameroon

    2 Director of Research & Development, Triarco Industries, Inc. 400 Hamburg Turnpike, Wayne, NJ, 07418, USA

    author email corresponding author email* Contributed equally

    Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition 2008, 5:12doi:10.1186/1550-2783-5-12

    The electronic version of this article is the complete one and can be found online at: Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition | Full text | An open label, dose response study to determine the effect of a dietary supplement on dihydrotestosterone, testosterone and estradiol levels in healthy males
    Received: 12 May 2008
    Accepted: 12 August 2008
    Published: 12 August 2008

    © 2008 Angwafor and Anderson; licensee BioMed Central Ltd.
    This is an Open Access article distributed under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution License (Creative Commons — Attribution 2.0 Generic), which permits unrestricted use, distribution, and reproduction in any medium, provided the original work is properly cited.
    Abstract
    Background

    Maintaining endogenous testosterone (T) levels as men age may slow the symptoms of sarcopenia, andropause and decline in physical performance. Drugs inhibiting the enzyme 5α-reductase (5AR) produce increased blood levels of T and decreased levels of dihydrotestosterone (DHT). However, symptoms of gynecomastia have been reported due to the aromatase (AER) enzyme converting excess T to estradiol (ES). The carotenoid astaxanthin (AX) from Haematococcus pluvialis, Saw Palmetto berry lipid extract (SPLE) from Serenoa repens and the precise combination of these dietary supplements, Alphastat® (Mytosterone(™)), have been reported to have inhibitory effects on both 5AR and AER in-vitro. Concomitant regulation of both enzymes in-vivo would cause DHT and ES blood levels to decrease and T levels to increase. The purpose of this clinical study was to determine if patented Alphastat® (Mytosterone(™)) could produce these effects in a dose dependent manner.
    Methods

    To investigate this clinically, 42 healthy males ages 37 to 70 years were divided into two groups of twenty-one and dosed with either 800 mg/day or 2000 mg/day of Alphastat® (Mytosterone(™)) for fourteen days. Blood samples were collected on days 0, 3, 7 and 14 and assayed for T, DHT and ES. Body weight and blood pressure data were collected prior to blood collection. One-way, repeated measures analysis of variance (ANOVA-RM) was performed at a significance level of alpha = 0.05 to determine differences from baseline within each group. Two-way analysis of variance (ANOVA-2) was performed after baseline subtraction, at a significance level of alpha = 0.05 to determine differences between dose groups. Results are expressed as means ± SEM.
    Results

    ANOVA-RM showed significant within group increases in serum total T and significant decreases in serum DHT from baseline in both dose groups at a significance level of alpha = 0.05. Significant decreases in serum ES are reported for the 2000 mg/day dose group and not the 800 mg/day dose group. Significant within group effects were confirmed using ANOVA-2 analyses after baseline subtraction. ANOVA-2 analyses also showed no significant difference between dose groups with regard to the increase of T or the decrease of DHT. It did show a significant dose dependant decrease in serum ES levels.
    Conclusion

    Both dose groups showed significant (p = 0.05) increases in T and decreases in DHT within three days of treatment with Alphastat® (Mytosterone(™)). Between group statistical analysis showed no significant (p = 0.05) difference, indicating the effect was not dose dependent and that 800 mg/per day is equally effective as 2000 mg/day for increasing T and lowering DHT. Blood levels of ES however, decreased significantly (p = 0.05) in the 2000 mg/day dose group but not in the 800 mg/day dose group indicating a dose dependant decrease in E levels.
    Here's the full abstract:

    Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition | Full text | An open label, dose response study to determine the effect of a dietary supplement on dihydrotestosterone, testosterone and estradiol levels in healthy males


    I'm interested in this stuff. Does it work? Can a test booster work without causing hair loss? While it might not be interesting to those in their 20's, it could be great for those over 35, or susceptible to hair loss.

    I'm on day three at normal dosing, nothing much to report yet.


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    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons
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  3. Thanks brother!

  4. This supp has gone unnoticed and I would like to see what's up with it. I know Celc and BigT were doing runs with it but never heard what happened. Look forward to seeing what you think.
    Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  5. Yeah, I was kind of curious to see where it went with them, but it just dropped off. I bought it a while back, and was just waiting until my CL log wrapped up (which, BTW, was awesome, WF rules!).

    I took 2 Myodrol tonight, and hit the gym for alternating dips and pullups, 7/5 reps respectively, 15 seconds between sets, for 7 rounds. Then I hit judo for 2 hours.

    My judo shape is suffering. Too much sitting in my car and missing class. My job bent me over good today: I was supposed to have the weekend off, but I have to work now, and they denied my raise request from a week ago. Ugh. And on top of it I miss nearly every judo class.

    Tonight was such an anomaly, workout wise, with the judo and all. But I did feel strong and alpha male on the dips/pullups. Nothing else to report yet.
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  6. Feel great today after judo last night, I really needed to get my ass kicked. I did notice an extra libido kick today; we'll see where that goes.

  7. the great dear leader will be following you around....
    This message was paid for by the Russians

  8. Kim jong il?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    This supp has gone unnoticed and I would like to see what's up with it. I know Celc and BigT were doing runs with it but never heard what happened. Look forward to seeing what you think.
    I personally seemed to like it on cycle better than solo. At the same time, I was recovering from surgery when I ran it solo... so it was one of those "get back to where I was before" situations with a ton of variables that probably skewed my results.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Kim jong il?
    no silly...










    sadam hussein
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  11. that bozo is dead!

  12. Definite libido boost today.

  13. good luck poison, i will be following closely.


    i got an infraction for merely mentioning hemodraulix so i hesitate to comment on my results or opinions on myodrol here.






    if you have any questions send me a pm.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  14. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Kim jong il?
    yes...do you have any other questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by Killerkanadia View Post
    that bozo is dead!
    im still around and recovered well from my stroke, i didnt like that ashole....but that HBO special "House of Saddam" was one of my favorite series.
    This message was paid for by the Russians

  15. Thebigt, I was surprised when I heard axis was no longer on the board here, they were a fixture for a long time. Doesn't matter, glad I picked this stuff up; we'll see if it lives up to the studies results.

    I worked out last night, gym was empty due to memorial day. I had a last serving of ragnorok, so I took it for a mental boost, and hit it.

    2 mile run - running on my toes, barefoot style. Waiting for my vibram five fingers to arrive, and getting used to the change in running style. I have fractured my metatarsals before, so I must proceed carefully. Anyway, a hard fast run, felt great.

    Flat bench and chest supported tbar rows, alternating, 5 sets of each

    Deadlift - 30 x 135, 20 x 135. Weak, but I didn't eat enough.

    Alternating curls and skull crushers.

    Libido is still high. Pump was good. Mood was great! I felt a bit animalistic in the gym.

  16. no barefoot running for this old guy, lol.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  17. Sorry for the delayed update, I hads a couple mad busy days.

    I missed weds workout, but that's ok, because I took my first bjj class early thurs. I hauled my ass out of bed after 5-6 hours of sleep, and took the 7am class. I took 2 Myodrol and a scoop of some old pre-workout for some caffeine before. Class was great! Grappling is very tiring, and I only ate a banana before. I pretty much went to failure in that 1.5 hours. I was extremely sore for the next 2 days, all abs and mid back.
    I'll be signing up this com.ing week. Psyched!

    Friday I ran 2 miles, did alternating decline and tbar rows

  18. Sorry for the delayed update, I hads a couple mad busy days.

    I missed weds workout, but that's ok, because I took my first bjj class early thurs. I hauled my ass out of bed after 5-6 hours of sleep, and took the 7am class. I took 2 Myodrol and a scoop of some old pre-workout for some caffeine before. Class was great! Grappling is very tiring, and I only ate a banana before. I pretty much went to failure in that 1.5 hours. I was extremely sore for the next 2 days, all abs and mid back.
    I'll be signing up this com.ing week. Psyched!

    Friday I ran 2 miles, did alternating heavy decline and tbar rows, bis and tris,, and a stretch.

    Libido has been consistantly high, and workouts have been good. Someone asked me if I'm losing weight, which is odd, because I weight the same. So maybe I'm leaning out a bit. Mood is very positive, with some mild aggression.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post

    Libido has been consistantly high, and workouts have been good. Someone asked me if I'm losing weight, which is odd, because I weight the same. So maybe I'm leaning out a bit. Mood is very positive, with some mild aggression.
    dont worry, its not odd at all.

    remember 1 pound of muscle = 1 pound of fat. but the difference is the fat is 5 times the size of muscle.

    re-comping is the possibility your getting here.

    you need to take before and after pics to really judge your progress, weight is a tool but mostly irrelevant. get yourself pics its still early enough. you should post them so we can judge your progress sometimes your mind can play tricks on you. if you really want to see more definition, you can trick your mind into seeing it, so try to post pics in all your logs.
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  20. I had a great 2 hour BJJ class today, finally signed up. Right after I did pullups and dips to failure (not long, as BJJ kicked my ass), then DL, up to 255, then 5 x 1 at 255. I was just wiped after class.

    I'm feeling very good, libido is still high, alpha feeling pretty consistent.

  21. KJI,
    I agree. Pics and calipers for the win! Scales don't really tell us much of anything useful.

    Poison,
    sounds good so far buddy. Are you typically a responder to test boosters? If so, what else do you like?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    I had a great 2 hour BJJ class today, finally signed up. Right after I did pullups and dips to failure (not long, as BJJ kicked my ass), then DL, up to 255, then 5 x 1 at 255. I was just wiped after class.

    I'm feeling very good, libido is still high, alpha feeling pretty consistent.
    are you getting the mood effect? my mood was very high on myodrol.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  23. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    KJI,
    I agree. Pics and calipers for the win! Scales don't really tell us much of anything useful.

    Poison,
    sounds good so far buddy. Are you typically a responder to test boosters? If so, what else do you like?
    I'm taking my daughter and some kids on her school camping trip tomorrow morning, so I'll be missing a couple workouts this week. Should be great fun, though! I'll try to take pics when I get back.

    I responded really well to Primal Male, putting on 8lbs, while doing pretty much everything wrong, lol. I was doing 6 hours a week of balls to the wall judo, 3 20 minute weight workouts a week, and sometimes not eating enough. Definitely not sleeping enough. So yeah, apparently I do. Form was awesome, too.

  24. Yes, thebigt, my mood has been very good. Primal male was more of a dose dependant effect, and more aggressive; this is not as strong an effect, but constant.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post
    Yes, thebigt, my mood has been very good. Primal male was more of a dose dependant effect, and more aggressive; this is not as strong an effect, but constant.
    i went as high as 8 on the nyodrol-how high are you dosing?
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  26. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i went as high as 8 on the nyodrol-how high are you dosing?
    your loving that "nyodrol" big-t?
    This message was paid for by the Russians

  27. I'm dosing 4 a day as directed. I may up it, though one of the studies shows no increase in efficiacy over a certain amount. I'll have to check it.

    I took my 2 Myodrols and hit the gym this morning, first workout afte the camping trip. There were 16 kids, ran me ragged, but I had a blast. I love the outdoors, and I'm a dirtbag. I crave it, especially living in LA. I got nice and dirty, and spent some good time at the nearby beach. I didn't eat enough, or drink enough, kinda sucked.

    Back to the gym. I received my Vibram Five Fingers last week, so this was my first run in em, 2 miles at a 7:30 pace on the treadmill. I've been running on my toes for a while now, and done a few fully barefoot, but this was the first time I wasn't limited by skin pain. They feel weird going on, but within 5 minutes you forget they're there. Running feels visceral without shoes, I felt like a screaming banshee, daniel day lewis style, and the weighlessness of no-shoes is outstanding. My calves are pretty unhappy right now, but growing by the day.

    That's enough vff talk. I did alternating flat bench and tbar rows, then curls and skullcrushers, rotator stuff, abs, and out. Great workout despite the last few days of craziness, good pump, good mood. I've had constant morning wood for the last week. I almost went off the Myodrol on the camping trip because of this. Sometimes wood is unwanted. lol

  28. yeah poisong get some!!!
    you SOB
    The difference between who you are and who you want to be is what you do.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by poison View Post

    I felt like a screaming banshee, daniel day lewis style
    HAHAHA That has to be a wickedly good feeling

  30. Seriously, the first time I ran barefoot on the treadmill I felt a shiver run down my spine. A good tune came on, and I was ****ing apollo. Today felt like that. Something about actually feeling the ground.
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