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    A Carnival of Cortisol Carnage: X-Lean and ****


    A Carnival of Cortisol Carnage


    Believe it or not, I've never run a log for an IBE product. Considering my wife's a rep for them, this thread is LONG overdue.

    So, exactly what am I logging?


    X-Lean is IBE's anti-cortisol and fat-loss product. After reading up substantially in past logs and old threads, I've come to the conclusion that high doses of this stuff are best; I'll begin at 8caps a day and will titrate from there.

    I've been looking forward to using X-Lean for quite some time - Androstenetriol has some really cool properties and effects.

    I'm now ~2months into a full on cut, the first I've been on in a long time. X-Lean will form the backbone of my lipolytic supplement choices.

    N2KTS is a pre-workout product. I've seen it mentioned around the boards here and there and all the feedback on it is good. I dislike the name, but will cover that momentarily.

    Need2Slin is a GDA. Really, what appealed to me about this product was the large dose of Gymnema, and the combination of ALCAR and NaRALA. There isn't enough ALCAR to have any cognitive benefits, but enough for it to perform its function as a cofactor in lipoate metabolism. I'm sensitive to GDAs, and frankly unconvinced of their fat-loss benefits, but we shall see.

    As I said, The **** products have a shortcoming in their nomenclature. Their names are ridiculously stupid.

    N2KTS stands for "Need to Kick the ****." Yeah. Also, on their website, I kid you not, they have a product called ASS LIGHTNING[IMG]http://www.**********************/store/secure/images/products/480.jpg[/IMG]

    Each bottle actually says "A SHOT IN THE ASS...TO KEEP YOU GOING!"

    Please, ****, hire a marketing team.

    Anyways, othe important factors of note are as follows:

    Diet -
    2100-4200kcals/day with carbs cycling from 50g to 700g.

    Stats - I weighed in at 239, and some current PRs are
    Bench:365
    Olympic Front Squat: 335
    Deadlift: 525

    Routine - I'm currently lifting 5 days a week, two of which are powerlifting and the other 3 are giant/tri/superset bodybuilding routines. I'm am following a Push/Pull Split.
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    An update pic with current fatness


    Also, forgot to mention my Other Supplementation -
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    In for the Ass Lightning!!!!!
    A shot in the ass, good sir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    A shot in the ass, good sir?
    Offering or requesting? Where's metroba when we need him?
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    sponsored or no?

    either way subbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inarius View Post
    sponsored or no?

    either way subbed.
    The X-Lean, yes. The **** stuff, no.

    Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    Is it just me or is the song fackin awesome? Julian made a funny song a b1tchn song.
    Yes, that song is awesome.
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    Subbing in for this fun.
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    in my man!!! and if you like the Chocolate LG Protein... bro you have GOT to try the new peanut butter!!! I took my first scoops today and HOLY CRAP it was great!!
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    Are you just doing one bottle of x-lean? I am right now on X-lean while i finish up my AT2 and took the dose up to 6 caps for 3 a few days and am ramping back down but i definitely feel like its done some leaning out. How did you AT2 go?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    in my man!!! and if you like the Chocolate LG Protein... bro you have GOT to try the new peanut butter!!! I took my first scoops today and HOLY CRAP it was great!!
    I actually picked up a tub of the CPB. It's delicious, but Chocolate is still my favorite for shakes - the CPB makes the most amazing protein brownies ever though!

    Quote Originally Posted by FlawedGrunt View Post
    Are you just doing one bottle of x-lean? I am right now on X-lean while i finish up my AT2 and took the dose up to 6 caps for 3 a few days and am ramping back down but i definitely feel like its done some leaning out. How did you AT2 go?
    I've got 4 bottles of X-Lean. It will be a 5 week run. I actually really wanted to stack some AT2 with X-Lean, but decided since the X-Lean was sponsored, I owed it to IBE to keep other possibly interacting products to a minimum. AT2 rocks though, that's for sure.
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    Subbed for this one Resolve. I was curious about the dosage on X-lean being that there is such a small amount of 7-Keto in it. Most of the time it is recommended to get 200mg a day, I assume that is why you are going to 8 pills a day?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Subbed for this one Resolve. I was curious about the dosage on X-lean being that there is such a small amount of 7-Keto in it. Most of the time it is recommended to get 200mg a day, I assume that is why you are going to 8 pills a day?
    I don't actually know what the dose of each ingredient is; I'm just basing my dosing off of the old threads I've read on here, in which most users reported best results when "mega-dosing." I'm just running with the assumption that "More is better" for right now.

    DAY 1

    This was yesterday; I was thoroughly beat by the end of the day, and pretty much took the night off. I got a good feel for what each of the products I'm using are capable of, I think, so here are my initial thoughts.

    X-Lean: There's zero stims in this, so it's not exactly something you "feel"; rather I'm on the lookout for any alterations to my mood. I ran high dose (1500mg/day) Relora for ~10wks and my emotions were looping as hell for the first week. So far though, on X-Lean, I'm calm and collected as usual.

    I'm also on the lookout for dry joints, and while my left elbow is sore and my knees are too, that's just par for the course, and they haven't gotten any worse due to X-Lean.

    N2KTS: I'll begin with the flavor, since I consider that the least important factor; it's really rough. Grind up some Tylenol and mix it with some water-down fruit-punch gatorade and you get an idea - bitter and chemical.

    Fortunately, it's efficacy is pretty noticeable. I took 2 scoops, as per the tub's directions, and the energy was good. Not the best I've ever used in that regard (3 X-Force still tops my chart for straight-up energy), but certainly very solid.

    I was sure there was Niacin in this from the large flush I got in my face and neck, but nope, no niacin anywhere in the formula; could I actually have responded to the Beta-Alanine with paraesthesia? That would be a first in many months.

    No pumps. Nada. But it was a PL day.

    Need2Slin: Not really sure if this is doing anything at all yet. I took 2 caps ~15min before 3 of my meals. With most GDAs I can use my energy and alertness as a timer for when I should eat after dosing - once I notice the first signs of hypoglycemia, I'll go eat. But this never happened here; I was using the clock to know when to go eat. Hmm, time will tell, and the website does suggest higher doses for larger carb meals, but I'm only ingesting 40-60g of Carbs at a time, and only for two meals.

    The Workout: PL Push Day

    Olympic Front Squats: 135x10, 225x3, 225x3, 275x3, 295x3, 300x3(PR!), 135x10 x10
    I'm finally front squatting 300 for multiple reps again! It's been over a year since I've been able to do this, and even then it was with the "cross-armed" stance, not the Olympic Stance.
    Note: Rub your knees with ICY-HOT prior to a squat day, it makes a world of difference in flexibility and "looseness". Got this idea from a DC thread Met post a while back (Thanks man!)

    Bench: 225x3, 225x3, 275x3, 315x3, 335x3, 225x10 x10 x10
    Well, 335 for 3 isn't a PR, but it's the most I've benched for 3 in a while. Power felt good and I was solid as a rock. Butt never left the bench and I had plenty of leg-drive.

    Push Press: 205x3, 225x3, 230x2, 230x3 (PR!)
    Seated Overhead Partials: 205 x3 x3 x3, 135x20
    230 is the most I've push pressed for 3 reps; I've pressed my body-weight for 1, but never more than that. So I was pleased, but it really took a LOT of psyching up to hit lockout on all 3 reps. I'm sure I sounded like a gorilla or something when I was prepping for that lift.

    Accessory Lifts:
    Leg Press ss'd w/toes in calf raises: 270x10, 360x10, 450x10, 540x8, 630x8
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    Your front squats are ridiculous man. I was happy with my 135s yesterday...then I came here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Your front squats are ridiculous man. I was happy with my 135s yesterday...then I came here.
    I've been focusing on 'em since last year; moved every other lower body movement to the back burner for quite some time. They take a while to get used to and require more finesse than a back squat.

    Stick with it - my first goal was to simply front squat my bodyweight. Once you get the form down, the numbers will rise steadily.
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    just an overall great lift Resolve!! the numbers are great. Love seeing the 335x3! Good reviews on the products thus far. Giving me something to look into that is for sure!
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    Nice just so u knew reading u other log got me to bring back the front squats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    just an overall great lift Resolve!! the numbers are great. Love seeing the 335x3! Good reviews on the products thus far. Giving me something to look into that is for sure!
    Thanks, it's really nice to be gaining strength while losing weight. It's a decent indicator that I'm hangin' on to my muscle.

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    Nice just so u knew reading u other log got me to bring back the front squats.
    Good for you man. My routine would feel incomplete without them.
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    So, at the grocery store, BW found 98% Ground beef. I didn't know such a thing existed! We had to pick some up, as it meant that I could have beef earlier in the day, with my low-fat, higher carb meals. I'm stoked, because I'm beginning to get tired of chicken breast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    So, at the grocery store, BW found 98% Ground beef. I didn't know such a thing existed! We had to pick some up, as it meant that I could have beef earlier in the day, with my low-fat, higher carb meals. I'm stoked, because I'm beginning to get tired of chicken breast.
    walmart here sells 97/3...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inarius View Post
    walmart here sells 97/3...
    That's nice man, the best I can typically find is 93/7, so when I found 98/2 I was stoked.

    Also, that's quite a flamboyant entry Adams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    That's nice man, the best I can typically find is 93/7, so when I found 98/2 I was stoked.

    Also, that's quite a flamboyant entry Adams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Ha... you asked for it... That is the CD Carnival of Carnage.
    Ah, it's all so clear now!

    Day 3

    So yesterday was a rest day, hence no update, but today I was back at it with renewed vigor.

    X-Lean: I'm on the lookout for dry joints, but so far, if anything they've been better than normal. I sort of half recall that X-Lean has anti-inflammatory properties, but don't quote me on that. I do know androstenetriol has potent anti-pathogenic properties. No mood swings to report either - everything is all even keeled.

    N2KTS: About 10 min after ingestion, I again noticed very prominent paraesthesia in my face, ears and neck. Furthermore, I realized when I got to the gym that my whole head and parts of my arms and shoulders had broken out in a bright red rash. To my knowledge, I have used all the ingredients in N2KTS before, so this reaction was quite shocking and discomforting. It was not pleasant, to say the least.

    I will give it another shot, but if this keeps up, I more than likely to pitch this stuff (or give to someone else who may care to log it). We'll see what happens

    Need2Slin: Can't tell if this working or not; no hypoglycemia, which is surprising considering its profile, and certainly no extra muscle fullness. It has, however, only been a couple of days that I've used it. Could be cumulative.

    Today's Lifting: PL Pull Day

    Deads: 315x3, 405x3, 425x3, 455x3, 315x15, 315x12
    Still seeing good progress in my deads; 455 is 10lb up from last months 3rep week. Grip was great! I warmed up with some timed holds at 315 and those really wake my hands and forearms up; I focus on squeezing the hell out of the bar.

    Weighted Chins: +80x3, +90x3, +105x3, +135x2(PR)
    Having 135lb strapped between your legs is no easy thing (I would know, I sport that much down there 24/7 ), I was actually a little intimidated as I loaded up. But I cranked out 2 solid reps; couldn't clear the bar on a 3rd so it didn't count.

    DB Rows: 105 for 3x15
    After the first two movements, my forearms were not the most cooperative here. 105 is an increase in weight, now I'll just shoot for increasing those reps each week til I can hit 3x20, like I could with the 100s.

    Lying Leg Curl Clusters: 3sets of 5x5 clusters with 50
    Do 5 reps with one leg, 5 with the other and repeat 5 times. That's one set. This machine doesn't like me either; it's this old school thing and 50lb feels heavy on there. Also, as I've said before, leg curls are not my best lift.

    Hammer Curls: 65s for 6x12-10
    Good pump here. Really wrapped up the workout well; I closed up shop with a little "running the rack" and my arms felt the love.
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    Sucks about the N2KTS. Nothing like a shot in the ass eh?

    Nice work on the weighted chin PR. I've had 135 between my legs but never on chins, only dips. It's intimidating as hell though. I'm afraid I'm gonna rip the bars for dips off the wall or something. Humpty Dumpty might not get up from something like that...
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    In !

    Those are some sick number for your lifts, and I haven't done front squats in years.

    I'm thinkin a PR for me in those would be somewhere around 95... on the smith machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    I don't actually know what the dose of each ingredient is; I'm just basing my dosing off of the old threads I've read on here, in which most users reported best results when "mega-dosing." I'm just running with the assumption that "More is better" for right now.

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    X-Lean: There's zero stims in this, so it's not exactly something you "feel"; rather I'm on the lookout for any alterations to my mood. I ran high dose (1500mg/day) Relora for ~10wks and my emotions were looping as hell for the first week. So far though, on X-Lean, I'm calm and collected as usual.

    I'm also on the lookout for dry joints, and while my left elbow is sore and my knees are too, that's just par for the course, and they haven't gotten any worse due to X-Lean.
    I was mega-dosing X-Lean for a few days and noticed some very mild joint pain and the occasional nagging headache. The bottles I have ran in the past I only used 1 cap in the am and 1 with lunch and noticed some lean-age in my waist, so I'm not sure how everyone is going about mega-dosing.

    I could definitely up my water intake but I was wondering how many you take a day and when you take them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    In !

    Those are some sick number for your lifts, and I haven't done front squats in years.

    I'm thinkin a PR for me in those would be somewhere around 95... on the smith machine

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Sucks about the N2KTS. Nothing like a shot in the ass eh?

    Nice work on the weighted chin PR. I've had 135 between my legs but never on chins, only dips. It's intimidating as hell though. I'm afraid I'm gonna rip the bars for dips off the wall or something. Humpty Dumpty might not get up from something like that...
    Yeah, it's a bummer. I'ma give it another shot, but lifting when your whole head and part of your torso is all rashy sucks.

    Your dips a awesome man; I haven't dipped 135 in a long time. Speaking of which, I'll be doing dips today.

    Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    In !

    Those are some sick number for your lifts, and I haven't done front squats in years.

    I'm thinkin a PR for me in those would be somewhere around 95... on the smith machine

    Sounds like somebody's gotta work on their core strength.

    Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    I was mega-dosing X-Lean for a few days and noticed some very mild joint pain and the occasional nagging headache. The bottles I have ran in the past I only used 1 cap in the am and 1 with lunch and noticed some lean-age in my waist, so I'm not sure how everyone is going about mega-dosing.

    I could definitely up my water intake but I was wondering how many you take a day and when you take them.
    I'm taking 8 a day currently; two upon first rising, two before lifting, two after lifting and two before bed.
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    Day 4

    Thank God it's Friday. It's been a surprisingly laid back day in the lab here; that's what happens when you run out of reagents and all your cells haven't turned out right. Next week will be busy, but for right now, deep breaths of relaxation.

    I think I'm looking half decent - I'll get some pics up tomorrow.

    X-Lean: Did a bit of reading. It does appear X-Lean has anti-inflammatory properties; AET is unique in its capacity to both suppress glucocorticoid action and simultaneously inhibit inflammation. No side effects to report; perhaps some tightening of the mid-section, but still very early to see results.

    N2KTS: No rash today, thank God. Don't know what the deal was yesterday, but it wasn't pleasant. Not a big energy boost today. More than anything it just kept me going. I wasn't stoked to be lifting or ready to "kick the ****", but I wasn't drop dead exhausted at the end of the workout either. So, endurance certainly benefitted.

    Need2Slin: Today is a high carb day, so I've been taking 3 caps, instead of the normal two, before each meal. Finally feeling this stuff, but then 3 caps plus 150+g of carbs at a time had better do something!

    The Workout: Super/Tri-Set Push

    Back Squat: 135x10, 225x3, 225x3, 275x3, 315x3, 335x3, 355x3, 225x20
    Ss'd w/One leg DB Calf Raise from step: 85 for 8x5
    This felt great! 355 was more than manageable. I would really love a day to do nothing but squat for an hour. It would rock. The Widowmaker at the end was a great way to finish things off.


    Triset: 4sets, 3reps per lift, no rest til end of set
    Floor Press:
    225, 275, 295, 315
    Floor Flies: 85s
    Incline DB Press: 100s
    Jammed my left elbow pretty good on the first rep with 315. Only got out two reps because of it. It's a bit sore now, but no big deal. Still seeing steady progress here.

    Weighted Dips: +70x3, +80x3, +105x3, +115x3
    Ss'd w/Single Pulley Rope Extensions: 90 for 4x10
    This would normally have been a triset, but my jammed elbow said overhead DB exts weren't gonna happen. So I bumped up the reps on the rope exts a bit. Decent pump and 115 went nice and smooth.

    I'm really craving some good liquor. We'll see, maybe I'll cave and cheat a bit on this high carb day.
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    I got to do weighted dips more... I just like them at the end and usually by then my tris are SMOKED
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    I got to do weighted dips more... I just like them at the end and usually by then my tris are SMOKED

    I always do them last for some reason too, and by that time bodyweight dips are plenty.

    Right now though, I go to Planet Fitness because it's only $10 a month (lol) and their dumbbells only go to 75 so I gotta get creative..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    I got to do weighted dips more... I just like them at the end and usually by then my tris are SMOKED
    Dips have a special place in my heart. I prefer to use them as a main rather than an accessory movement. After some good heavy dips, I can feel it in my traps, lats, forearms, shoulders, chest and tris. I figure, it's such a good compound lift, why relegate to a sideline role?

    In the past I've done workouts that consisted of just deads, dips and chins as a triset. Do it 5-8 times and call it a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    I always do them last for some reason too, and by that time bodyweight dips are plenty.

    Right now though, I go to Planet Fitness because it's only $10 a month (lol) and their dumbbells only go to 75 so I gotta get creative..
    Man, from what I've seen of Planet Fitness, they'd kick me out after my first heavy set of ANYTHING, due to their "lunk alarm."

    I like to have them explain to me how a molecular biologist getting his PhD. in pharmacology is a lunk. That would amuse and piss me off simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Man, from what I've seen of Planet Fitness, they'd kick me out after my first heavy set of ANYTHING, due to their "lunk alarm."

    I like to have them explain to me how a molecular biologist getting his PhD. in pharmacology is a lunk. That would amuse and piss me off simultaneously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post

    Man, from what I've seen of Planet Fitness, they'd kick me out after my first heavy set of ANYTHING, due to their "lunk alarm."

    I like to have them explain to me how a molecular biologist getting his PhD. in pharmacology is a lunk. That would amuse and piss me off simultaneously.
    LOL

    The "lunk alarm" only goes off when people drop the weights (there are sensors in the DB's I think )


    ...and I think they give you a warning if it goes off the 1st time...


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