1-andro rx/ 4ad cycle log

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  1. 1-andro rx/ 4ad cycle log


    1st cycle ever.

    6 week cycle

    ams 1-andro- 500 mg first wk. then bump up to 600 mg

    4ad- same as andro - 500 mg first week. then to 600 mg.

    pct - post cycle support.

    whey protein 3 times a day.
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    Weight- 195 lbs
    Height - 6'2"
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    Qustions-
    Doses seem ok?
    What should i add?
    Should i use anything before i start my cycle?
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    I'm going to attempt a log to help beginners such as myself.

    Questions/Comments. Be my guest.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    1st cycle ever.

    6 week cycle

    ams 1-andro- 500 mg first wk. then bump up to 600 mg

    4ad- same as andro - 500 mg first week. then to 600 mg.

    pct - post cycle support.

    whey protein 3 times a day.
    --------------------------------
    Weight- 195 lbs
    Height - 6'2"
    --------------------------------
    Qustions-
    Doses seem ok?
    What should i add?
    Should i use anything before i start my cycle?
    --------------------------------
    I'm going to attempt a log to help beginners such as myself.

    Questions/Comments. Be my guest.
    Doses are fine. You could go higher if you wanted, but 600 is about right for both androsterone versions of the 1AD and 4AD.

    No real need to add anything but A LOT of healthy food. Creatine would help out with PCT... Anadraulic State GT is coming out and is great for keeping gains during PCT.

    Good luck with your cycle bro.

    How old are you btw?
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Doses are fine. You could go higher if you wanted, but 600 is about right for both androsterone versions of the 1AD and 4AD.

    No real need to add anything but A LOT of healthy food. Creatine would help out with PCT... Anadraulic State GT is coming out and is great for keeping gains during PCT.

    Good luck with your cycle bro.

    How old are you btw?
    Thanks, man. I'll check it out!

    I'm 21 btw.

    Have you used this stack before? if so, how did it go?

  4. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    Thanks, man. I'll check it out!

    I'm 21 btw.

    Have you used this stack before? if so, how did it go?
    I used the AMS 1AD/4AD UTT. It went great, but I dosed it pretty high and ran it for 8 weeks.
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I used the AMS 1AD/4AD UTT. It went great, but I dosed it pretty high and ran it for 8 weeks.
    Good to hear. I may bump the doses up then. i'll see how it goes.


    When i get everything started. i'll post my current lifting abilities. Hopefully the goods come in this week, so i can start in on Monday-ish
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    Good to hear. I may bump the doses up then. i'll see how it goes.


    When i get everything started. i'll post my current lifting abilities. Hopefully the goods come in this week, so i can start in on Monday-ish
    I would only bump the dose up if you felt that you needed to for lack of gains, which you probably won't have to worry about. For your first run you probably shouldn't need to... I ran 1AD and 4AD after already using some much stronger hormones in my past... more isn't always better.
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I would only bump the dose up if you felt that you needed to for lack of gains, which you probably won't have to worry about. For your first run you probably shouldn't need to... I ran 1AD and 4AD after already using some much stronger hormones in my past... more isn't always better.
    Most definitely. Thanks for the heads up. May I ask what hormones you used prior? and how did they go?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    Most definitely. Thanks for the heads up. May I ask what hormones you used prior? and how did they go?
    Methyl1D/ Methyl Masterdrol V2 - Went great
    Epistane - Good cycle, first harsh cycle, but great gains
    Mdrol - Terribly harsh, wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Lethargy to the max.
    Hdrol/Oristan A - Great cycle
    1AD/4AD- Great cycle
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Methyl1D/ Methyl Masterdrol V2 - Went great
    Epistane - Good cycle, first harsh cycle, but great gains
    Mdrol - Terribly harsh, wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Lethargy to the max.
    Hdrol/Oristan A - Great cycle
    1AD/4AD- Great cycle
    Nice. I was going to go with Methyl 1-D, I-GH-1 stack but heard it was it a little rougher than 1-4ad. that's why im going with that. you know if this is true?

  10. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    Nice. I was going to go with Methyl 1-D, I-GH-1 stack but heard it was it a little rougher than 1-4ad. that's why im going with that. you know if this is true?
    Honestly the M1D MMV2 is pretty similar. The 1AD will probably cause more shutdown than the Methyl Masterdrol, and the M1D and 4AD both convert to Testosterone... so those are pretty even as far as harshness. None of the above hormones are harsh at all though.
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Honestly the M1D MMV2 is pretty similar. The 1AD will probably cause more shutdown than the Methyl Masterdrol, and the M1D and 4AD both convert to Testosterone... so those are pretty even as far as harshness. None of the above hormones are harsh at all though.
    ahh ok. good news.
    Thanks a ton for the info

  12. Alright, everything came in today Woot Woot!

    After tonights workout i'm going to post where i'm at on some workouts... i'll workout out tomorrow night as well and probably start my cycle on sunday.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Methyl1D/ Methyl Masterdrol V2 - Went great
    Epistane - Good cycle, first harsh cycle, but great gains
    Mdrol - Terribly harsh, wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Lethargy to the max.
    Hdrol/Oristan A - Great cycle
    1AD/4AD- Great cycle
    out of all those cycles, which would you recommend first? i was thinking about getting the 1AD/4AD, but then again i kind of want to get some h-drol while supplies last. thanks in advance..

  14. for first cycle I've heard 1AD/4AD or HDrol. I would go Hdrol imo. less pills great gains.

  15. Alright, struggled tonight. Muscles were shot.... but here are the last 4 nights.

    2/8
    db shoulder press 4x10- 30,40,40,50x8
    db reverse fly 4x10 - 25,30,30,30
    db lat raise 4x10- 20,20,20,20
    up right row 4x10 - 70,70,70,80
    bb shrug (smith) 4x10 - 180,180,180,180
    db shrug 4x10 - 65,65,75

    2/9

    leg ext 4x10 - 175,175,190,205
    squat (smith) 4x10 - 135 on ->
    leg press 4x10/1x20 - 180 ->./90
    leg curl 4x10 - 175,190,205,205

    2/10

    single arm isolation 4x10 - 30,35,35,30
    bb curl 3x8 - 50,50,60
    standing calves 4x20 - 210 ->
    sitting calves 4x20 - 180,180,180,225

    2/11
    incline bb press (smith) 4x10 - 90 on ->
    incline db press 4x10 - 35,40,45,45
    flat db press 4x10 - 45,45,45,35
    hammer press 4x15 - 15 ->

    arms were shot tonight.

    Alright guys. i'm taking tomorrow off and probably starting my cycle on saturday.

    Weighed in tonight at 202.

    Wish me luck

  16. Quote Originally Posted by permanabol View Post
    for first cycle I've heard 1AD/4AD or HDrol. I would go Hdrol imo. less pills great gains.
    thanks... i just ordered my h-drol, cycle support and pct. hopefully, ill gain back the 40lbs i lost over 6 years.

  17. would anyone recommend a cycle support while i'm on this? or is there no need?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    would anyone recommend a cycle support while i'm on this? or is there no need?
    You don't need a cycle support for 1AD and 4AD by Advance Muscle Science. Those are the liquid UTT drops that go to the blood stream rather than through the liver. That stuff claims not to damage your liver. You can still take a cycle support if you want.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by niceguy84 View Post
    You don't need a cycle support for 1AD and 4AD by Advance Muscle Science. Those are the liquid UTT drops that go to the blood stream rather than through the liver. That stuff claims not to damage your liver. You can still take a cycle support if you want.
    Alright, thanks. I wont spend the 60$ then

  20. i mean they will still go through your liver once in your blood stream, but its not as harsh. i would recommend you to go buy milk thisle to be more on the safe side for your liver.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by niceguy84 View Post
    i mean they will still go through your liver once in your blood stream, but its not as harsh. i would recommend you to go buy milk thisle to be more on the safe side for your liver.
    i looked it up, it's cheap as hell... so might as well

  22. dont be cheap when it comes to cycles,

    you get what you pay for, and cycles arent anything you should have to budget with imo.

    if you want to get milk thistle for a non-methylated cycle make sure its standardized at least.
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  23. i really dont think milk thistle would be needed for 1-ad 4-ad because both non-methyls. now i do believe that beta sitosterols or saw palmetto or something for prostate health is good, and some hawthorne berries or coq-10 for cardiovascular and bp health is always good

  24. Alright, started taking it yesterday... just so happened i came down with an eye infection but went anyway. felt like ****. probably should have started it today.

    Took it again today. 300 mg of each when i woke up. worked out. felt good. Not sure if im having a placebo effect... but seemed like i had more endurance. I'll keep an eye on that as i continue taking it.

    I'll take 200 mg of each when i return to mi casa.

    peace

  25. Quote Originally Posted by jfgordon1 View Post
    Alright, started taking it yesterday... just so happened i came down with an eye infection but went anyway. felt like ****. probably should have started it today.

    Took it again today. 300 mg of each when i woke up. worked out. felt good. Not sure if im having a placebo effect... but seemed like i had more endurance. I'll keep an eye on that as i continue taking it.

    I'll take 200 mg of each when i return to mi casa.

    peace
    you should just start a log then, im me if you do so i know to follow.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    im me if you do so i know to follow.
    pardon?

  27. im, instant message, actually i meant pm, private message me the log so i know your logging it. i wouldnt want to miss it.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by niceguy84 View Post
    out of all those cycles, which would you recommend first? i was thinking about getting the 1AD/4AD, but then again i kind of want to get some h-drol while supplies last. thanks in advance..
    These hormones last a year or two past their expiration. You should buy some hdrol now if you want to run it in the future... I have 4 bottles of the stuff at home just waiting...

    I'd recommend either... I did M1D/MMv2 first and that was pretty sweet.
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    These hormones last a year or two past their expiration. You should buy some hdrol now if you want to run it in the future... I have 4 bottles of the stuff at home just waiting...

    I'd recommend either... I did M1D/MMv2 first and that was pretty sweet.
    Is it going off the market?

    4 bottles enough to run a cycle? i'm thinking about doing hdrol next time. just to compare and such.
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