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  1. Quote Originally Posted by TRex21 View Post
    Is the ASGT a new formula or just a better flavor?
    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Revised ingredients and better flavor.
    Yep, it's basically got everything else it had before and more. Arginine was the only thing that was taken out, and that's because we have it in AP. We're not a fan of overlapping ingredients and having consumers waste their cash.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Yep, it's basically got everything else it had before and more. Arginine was the only thing that was taken out, and that's because we have it in AP. We're not a fan of overlapping ingredients and having consumers waste their cash.
    Dude, that concept has caused so much drama on other boards, it's ridiculous.

    I found plenty of data in the literature, though, showing that Arg and Creatine are absorbed at VERY different rates and peak at very different times.

    I hadn't realized it, but creatine is actually best ~1hr, give or take, before a workout, while Arg needs to be much closer if you want it's concentration to peak while lifting and not before.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Update:

    So today was my third day on the AS-GT and AP. I dosed 6 scoops of the ASGT today, (dose and a half) and whoowee it was strong. The stimulants in it hit me really fast, I am ready to go in about 20 minutes, and it's hard to sit still for the next 20 before I drink my AP and get down to business.
    This stuff KICKS you guys. I mean it b!tchslaps you right in the face... if you took it and ended up not training, prepare to start re-arranging your furniture cause you are gonna be freaking out.
    All I have to say is... When can I pre-order a bottle?
    You know that this would something that a stim-junkie like myself would adore!!! I'll be waiting on the pre-sale, or All-Father to place it in the heart of some giving soul to let me test drive some.

    It's better to give than receive.....or for me to fork out what little cash I have these days....
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  4. Subbed brotha sorry I am late!

  5. GMG have you ever taken jack3d?...and if you did how does it compare to ASGT
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  6. I took jack3d for about 3-4 bottles worth before my last pre-workout which was Nutrex's Hemo Rage Black (I know, I know... nutrex is overpriced ish, but I actually really liked the hemo-rage... not for the price it goes for though) The reason I got to use it was my buddy bought a tub and didn't like the flavor, so he just gave it to me (he works at the vitamin shoppe). Prior to that I was all about Jack3d.

    AS-GT kicks Jack3d in the face, especially since Jack3d's prices has gotten jacked up over the months to nearly 30 bucks (starting to get into the rip off range for what is actually in it if you ask me... especially at 15 servings a tub). More stim to ASGT, better flavor IMO, better pumps, and MUCH MUCH more aggression.

    IMO they are not even in the same league.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post

    AS-GT kicks Jack3d in the face, especially since Jack3d's prices has gotten jacked up over the months to nearly 30 bucks (starting to get into the rip off range for what is actually in it if you ask me... especially at 15 servings a tub). More stim to ASGT, better flavor IMO, better pumps, and MUCH MUCH more aggression.

    IMO they are not even in the same league.
    Giggidy.

    ...and agreed.

  8. In that case im definitely getting some...i took jack3d and it worked real good for me and i have a high tolerence to preworkout supps...by the end i did need like 3 sccops though...

  9. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Giggidy.

    ...and agreed.
    lol
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  10. I agree that Jack3d and AS-GT are not in the same league but that is by design. Jack3d is a stripped down, bare bones pwo that is a great stim based product if you just want something simple. AS-GT is targeting a different audience and brings a lot more to the table, hence the price being nearly twice the cost of jack3d based on its most recent sale price. Also, not everyone takes 3 scoops of Jack3d, most that I know don't. Either way, it is always better when a new, better version that tastes palatable comes out of AS!

    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I took jack3d for about 3-4 bottles worth before my last pre-workout which was Nutrex's Hemo Rage Black (I know, I know... nutrex is overpriced ish, but I actually really liked the hemo-rage... not for the price it goes for though) The reason I got to use it was my buddy bought a tub and didn't like the flavor, so he just gave it to me (he works at the vitamin shoppe). Prior to that I was all about Jack3d.

    AS-GT kicks Jack3d in the face, especially since Jack3d's prices has gotten jacked up over the months to nearly 30 bucks (starting to get into the rip off range for what is actually in it if you ask me... especially at 15 servings a tub). More stim to ASGT, better flavor IMO, better pumps, and MUCH MUCH more aggression.

    IMO they are not even in the same league.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by TRex21 View Post
    In that case im definitely getting some...i took jack3d and it worked real good for me and i have a high tolerence to preworkout supps...by the end i did need like 3 sccops though...
    I'm not knocking jack3ed. It is simple and it works. The thing is, is for the amount of servings you get for 28 bucks or whatever it sells for... it seems pretty bland. I mean, AAKG, Creatine Mono, and BA is a great stack. But since it is really a simple blend, it makes a lot more sense to buy in bulk... you can get everything in it at NP, and the price/serving ratio is redonkulous in comparison.

    The original AS has a really interesting, unique, and effective blend of ingredients, and is incredibly effective at just one serving. Jack3d takes 3 for me to get the desired effects. The taste was what was holding AS back IMO. Now I really like the taste, and LG has apparently added new ingredients to the blend... and I seem to really like the results so far. The separation of Creatine and Arginine is pretty novel as well. Creatine is usually absorbed in around an hour, a little under. Arginine has been showed to absorb quicker. Dosing at different times sounds like a good idea for the body to make best use of the supplements during ones workout. At the price point that AP is at, and from what I have heard hinted at for the pricepoint to ASGT, you are getting a really effective combo, for a price that added TOGETHER would be competitive with most pre-workout drinks. They also give you a bunch of doses per bottle.

    I am not really sure about the effects of the AS-GT at a higher dose, I imagine some of the ingredients might be more effective over a longer period of time at a higher dose (any test boosting ingredient) as the body does get accustomed to certain dosing protocols over time, but I don't need to be that stimmed out. That is the only thing I can really say in caution to the AS-GT is that it is pretty strong, and the stimulant sensitive users are going to need to start at a low dose.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I agree that Jack3d and AS-GT are not in the same league but that is by design. Jack3d is a stripped down, bare bones pwo that is a great stim based product if you just want something simple. AS-GT is targeting a different audience and brings a lot more to the table, hence the price being nearly twice the cost of jack3d based on its most recent sale price. Also, not everyone takes 3 scoops of Jack3d, most that I know don't. Either way, it is always better when a new, better version that tastes palatable comes out of AS!
    You haven't seen the price of AS-GTSE yet, have you?

  13. I heard it was going to be so cheap, that LG pays yoU!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    I heard it was going to be so cheap, that LG pays yoU!
    lol. ehhhhh, not quite, but it will be "competitive."

  15. Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    I am not really sure about the effects of the AS-GT at a higher dose, I imagine some of the ingredients might be more effective over a longer period of time at a higher dose (any test boosting ingredient) as the body does get accustomed to certain dosing protocols over time, but I don't need to be that stimmed out. That is the only thing I can really say in caution to the AS-GT is that it is pretty strong, and the stimulant sensitive users are going to need to start at a low dose.
    This is my only concern at the moment. I don't know what stim(s) is in AS-GT and being somewhat stim sensitive, I will have to be cautious in my dosing, especially considering that I typically workout between 5-6 PM. I am curious if they are using the one that is in Vapor-XT that is supposed to replace Ephedrine??? I am really hoping it is not too high on the caffeine content, that is my main concern more than anything being that it will surely keep me up if it is well over 100 mg per serving. Based on what you wrote though I am amped to try it regardless of how strong it is!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    This is my only concern at the moment. I don't know what stim(s) is in AS-GT and being somewhat stim sensitive, I will have to be cautious in my dosing, especially considering that I typically workout between 5-6 PM. I am curious if they are using the one that is in Vapor-XT that is supposed to replace Ephedrine??? I am really hoping it is not too high on the caffeine content, that is my main concern more than anything being that it will surely keep me up if it is well over 100 mg per serving. Based on what you wrote though I am amped to try it regardless of how strong it is!
    No, were not using that ingredient. I've actually had what you're talking about. Not the AMS product, but the active itself.

    We're actually all very shocked at how intense the training is on AS-GTSE. The stims are not at all out of control. I think it's just the synergy of everything that really makes it so powerful.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    This is my only concern at the moment. I don't know what stim(s) is in AS-GT and being somewhat stim sensitive, I will have to be cautious in my dosing, especially considering that I typically workout between 5-6 PM. I am curious if they are using the one that is in Vapor-XT that is supposed to replace Ephedrine??? I am really hoping it is not too high on the caffeine content, that is my main concern more than anything being that it will surely keep me up if it is well over 100 mg per serving. Based on what you wrote though I am amped to try it regardless of how strong it is!
    I work out at about 6pm and I have no problem sleeping by 10pm. I believe it is a mix of different stims... I doubt the caffeine is too high... it isn't a shakey stimulant feeling like I get from fat burners.
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    No, were not using that ingredient. I've actually had what you're talking about. Not the AMS product, but the active itself.

    We're actually all very shocked at how intense the training is on AS-GTSE. The stims are not at all out of control. I think it's just the synergy of everything that really makes it so powerful.
    Fair enough, that is good you are not using that specific one. Not all that many left to choose from... and the plot thickens.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    thanks for the tip, I'll have to give it a try, but at my next gym. This "Aerobic Friendly" gym I am at now has big signs posted everywhere "be courtious to all, no chalk allowed"
    hippie !@#!#$%!
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  20. I gotta admit I dig when gyms are clean, but I still like to use chalk. There just needs to be a designated chalk-b*tch that stands behind you and cleans up when you leave.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I gotta admit I dig when gyms are clean, but I still like to use chalk. There just needs to be a designated chalk-b*tch that stands behind you and cleans up when you leave.
    I definitely need a chalk b*tch. Magnificent idea.
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  22. I second that chalk b*tch idea.
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  23. Kind of like a ball-boy in tennis, you know?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I gotta admit I dig when gyms are clean, but I still like to use chalk. There just needs to be a designated chalk-b*tch that stands behind you and cleans up when you leave.
    i loled hard
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I gotta admit I dig when gyms are clean, but I still like to use chalk. There just needs to be a designated chalk-b*tch that stands behind you and cleans up when you leave.
    I would seriously pay a few dollars extra to have a 4'6" chalk b**** follow me around!

  26. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    I would seriously pay a few dollars extra to have a 4'6" chalk b**** follow me around!
    4'6"? Why not just a mini-me. I need a chalk-midget.****

    ****my bad, a chalk-little-person.
    ...GMG760 Version 2.0 ... Back from the dead.

  27. See, I'm creating new jobs already. It's not hard.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    I gotta admit I dig when gyms are clean, but I still like to use chalk. There just needs to be a designated chalk-b*tch that stands behind you and cleans up when you leave.
    I have my own personal chalk b1tch; my wife lifts with me.
    Don't tell her I said that.
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  29. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    I have my own personal chalk b1tch; my wife lifts with me.
    Don't tell her I said that.
    You are playing with fire right there Resolve! Better hope she doesn't see that one or she might make you hers, lol!

  30. So yesterday at the gym I was just doing abs and cardio, but I do a circuit with a barbell to start my cardio... in doing which I was using one of the squat racks. Oh yea, and I was at the 24 hour across town (not my usual gym, but the eyecandy is nice) that most of the girls/abercrombie-esq dudes go to, to do tricep kickbacks and assisted pullups, or whatever the new rage is... anyway I just had cardio to do and was right on that side of town. So I am doing my circuit, and this chick comes out of the woodwork, great legs and body... really in shape and starts to deadlift next to me. She works her way up to 145... which impressed me a bit, it's more than she weighs. So the story gets better. As I continue my barbell circuit, she makes her way over to the hack squat machine, and precedes to use it, facing the machine, sticking her ass WAY out and the coming back to a standing up straight. I about lost it. Has anyone ever seen someone do this exercise? It actually looked like a really good glute workout... But my god... it was hard to concentrate... freakin' mirrors everywhere and ish...
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