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  1. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    I have to say I had a pretty good workout today. I found that I am concentrating a little more on form with this workout than I was with DC. I am also noticing that I am feeling the the UGH feeling that begins the shift to predominantly using fat for energy instead of carbs. I feel I have lost some weight already due to glycogen being used up, and with that the water is coming of. My strength has taken a dip as expected, this will always happen changing over to low carb dieting. It will level off in another week or so then start to creep back up until cals are low enough to cause it to decrease again.

    Supplement factor
    I will say this. I am impressed with the pump I had today from the Hemodraulix. Typically I do not get a great pump when not a low intake of carbs. You just kind of stay flat and dense, and get a little fuller during lifting but not PUMPED. Well today I had a full blown pump which really confused me due to the fact the weights were down today compared to my DC workouts. Of course like I said I am also going slower and concentrating more on form. However there was a definite strength loss and I couldn't tell by looking at myself that I ws depleted until I started to work and recognised the feeling. I do not get the BA tingles from this but I do not really get BA tingles much anymore. My body is quite efficient now at processing it. Anyway I was swole up and pumped, but sub-q water was down so I definitely looked tighter when I finished my workout. The mirror was a treat compared to the sloppy feeling I have had for a few weeks.

    Chin Ups - Assisted BW-60x10, BWx10, BW+30x7>BWx3>Assisted BW-60x7, the immediate drop in reps on drop set let me know glycogen levels were low now. Wont take too long before the fat burning furnace gets more efficient and can supply some ATP to the muscle.

    Decline Bench - 135x15, 245x8, 255x8>165x8>135x10 I was a little surprised here to see how low my drop set reps were n the first drop. Once again Glycogen... by this time I was sure and settled myself in for a hard to push through workout. Depletion was increasing as I went.

    Dumbbell Upright Rows - 45x10, 50x10, 55x6>45x3>40x4 It was about this time that I noticed just how pumped I was. Just as i started to get annoyed with the weights being feeling heavier and harder to work with I looked up in the mirror after working the upper body trifecta and i was as big as a house. Just pumped up, way beyond what I expected feeling as I did. I felt like I should be flat looking but was pleasantly surprised.

    Close Grip Bench - 135x10, 225x8, 235x6>185x4>135x4, shoulders where just shot by now.

    Barbell Curls - 100x8, 100x4>70x4>45x4, biceps were shot from the chin ups and the uprights hitting the forearms.

    Squats - 185x15, 225x10, 275x10 I am not very pleased with the squats. I was somewhat winded after the 15 but needed them to worm up the hips. When I hit my 225 the weight was not overly heavy at first but by arounf 7 it became challenging. This was prrof to me that I was pretty much running on empty. I decided to push through what I thought would just do a nice and safe set at 275x10, and it was but when I went to start my drops I had some issue putting it back on the arms of the power rack. I was already very winded and about to vomit so instead of trying to readjust the arms I just opted to stop. My hips are still pretty tight and I am trying to keep longevity in mind over pushing through. I would rather maintain what I have now while feeling tight than to push through it and end up unable to train them for any period during prep.

    All in all knowing I am in the process of depleting my carbs which automatically lowers stamina, and strength initially I will say this was a great workout. I have to remind myself that this program is very intensive and requires more energy and provides less rest is so I will not be able to lift the massive weights normal at lower rep ranges.
    You did the right thing. To many people try to force the issue and then cannot train for weeks/months due to injury.
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  2. damn Kleen. Awesome update! This log is already kicking so much ass!
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  3. Nice workout man! Good to see your listening to your body.
    Come join me on my Olympus goodie run (Ostarine / Ep1c / Str3ngth / Sup3r PCT)

  4. Kleen I am the same as you when I have low carbs, the pumps I get are more fullness and some hardening but rarely do I look huge. Well I proved that wrong yesterday man with the Anadraulic Pump. I really want to try Hemodraulix though, the profile seems like it will assist in leaning out a ton.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    You did the right thing. To many people try to force the issue and then cannot train for weeks/months due to injury.
    I just put almost an inch on my legs over the past 3 months so I am not goin to push through and lose what I built up to satisfy my ego. That is part of the good thing about growing up. It isn't about proving to myself I can do it anymore it is about proving I am smart enough to know when not too that has become my challenge. I am getting better and better at making good choices in this area.
    Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    damn Kleen. Awesome update! This log is already kicking so much ass!
    I am glad you are enjoying it. Hopefully the rest of the guys over there at Axis feel the same way. I know you all had a few people pull a chickensh*t move and not log the stuff sent to them. Complete shame. Once again thanks for letting me log it.

    Quote Originally Posted by punthra View Post
    Nice workout man! Good to see your listening to your body.
    Thanks Bro, in contest prep mode now. Everything is about how do I make it to the show with all my muscles intact. So there are 2 major factors I can control to help that; my diet; and making safe choices. I am not building muscle now, I am beautifying it. So I don't need to do anything risky to try to build now. Just keeping the muscle bellies long, full and functional while I rip up. I already built the frame i am going to the show with, if I weren't satisfied with my mass i would put my show off until July and keep going at the mass game or start recomp now. I am pretty satisfied with the base amount of muscle I am carryig now, and maintaining it is about smart choices.

    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Kleen I am the same as you when I have low carbs, the pumps I get are more fullness and some hardening but rarely do I look huge. Well I proved that wrong yesterday man with the Anadraulic Pump. I really want to try Hemodraulix though, the profile seems like it will assist in leaning out a ton.
    Excellent, that looks like a great product too. So far I am enjoying the heck out of the Hemodraulix. I will be checking out Anadraulic Pump after this stack. However right now, I am very happy I am trying the Hemo. I will also say that there is a definite difference in energy not having the jack3d bitch slap me into orbit with the geranium. However this product does not have a stim so I am using OEP and 1 is not enough to put me in the Jack3d realm and 2 at once is too much. However I think as I get in better shape the 1 OEP will get me there. Also going to get myself some Reset AD. Hope they still have the bogo since it is payday today.
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  6. Axis reps are def happy with you bro
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Excellent, that looks like a great product too. So far I am enjoying the heck out of the Hemodraulix. I will be checking out Anadraulic Pump after this stack. However right now, I am very happy I am trying the Hemo. I will also say that there is a definite difference in energy not having the jack3d bitch slap me into orbit with the geranium. However this product does not have a stim so I am using OEP and 1 is not enough to put me in the Jack3d realm and 2 at once is too much. However I think as I get in better shape the 1 OEP will get me there. Also going to get myself some Reset AD. Hope they still have the bogo since it is payday today.
    For an AM workout person you may want to thrown in a scoop of Jack3d with Anadraulic Pump but 5 scoops has 50 mg of geranium so I am normally well stimmed for my PM workouts. What I like a lot about it is that it seems to work really well with Creatine products when taken 30-45 mins prior to AP. I noticed my strength stays more consistent with this dosing pattern throughout my workouts and I am taking in less carbs... go figure.

  8. just like the old saying, Size Does matter! Go nice and easy Kleen and the world will be your own personal compitition!!!
    We are talking about weights right????
    Working on living

  9. Kleen, I'm taking it all in; way to work...

  10. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Kleen I am the same as you when I have low carbs, the pumps I get are more fullness and some hardening but rarely do I look huge. Well I proved that wrong yesterday man with the Anadraulic Pump. I really want to try Hemodraulix though, the profile seems like it will assist in leaning out a ton.
    Ouf,
    there's an LG rep on another board that swears by stacking Hemo and Anadraulic Pump. I've never tried it myself so I can't give feedback on synergy of that specific stack. However, Hemo stacks really well with just about every typical pump/preworkout mix that I've tried inlcuding SMASH, Hemo Rage Black, VasoCharge, and TRAC.

    whoops edit: Hmm, I was thinking anadrualic state. My bad. The anadraulic pump/ hemo stack is a totally novel idea to me. Now you got me thinking here

  11. Celc that would be pretty insane if you ask me. Also, I would imagine you could go down to say 2-3 scoops of AP and then full dose Hemodraulix. Doing that would give you a solid ~30 servings of each... pretty sick deal for a pwo stack.

  12. Glad to hear that the carb depletion is going well. As un-fun as carb depletion is, you're definitely making the best of it.
    "I am legally blind and if I can Squat,deadlift and over all get myself to the gym then anyone can get their a$$ in gear and get strong!!" - malleus25
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Ouf,
    there's an LG rep on another board that swears by stacking Hemo and Anadraulic Pump. I've never tried it myself so I can't give feedback on synergy of that specific stack. However, Hemo stacks really well with just about every typical pump/preworkout mix that I've tried inlcuding SMASH, Hemo Rage Black, VasoCharge, and TRAC.

    whoops edit: Hmm, I was thinking anadrualic state. My bad. The anadraulic pump/ hemo stack is a totally novel idea to me. Now you got me thinking here
    I hate to say it, but all of the NO products I have tried make me nauseated before my workouts. And I feel like I have bad gas during the workouts. Burping, belching, and farting. Okay....that's pretty descriptive. haha
    Even JACKED and Ragnarok does this to me. I like the "feel" of these products, especially the BA in them. I just wish they wouldn't make my stomach churn so much.
    I haven't tried the Hemo though. I'll have to give it a test run seeing that Mr.Kleen, Metroba, and GMG like it so much. I trust you guys' opinions.
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Thanks Bro, in contest prep mode now. Everything is about how do I make it to the show with all my muscles intact. So there are 2 major factors I can control to help that; my diet; and making safe choices. I am not building muscle now, I am beautifying it. So I don't need to do anything risky to try to build now. Just keeping the muscle bellies long, full and functional while I rip up. I already built the frame i am going to the show with, if I weren't satisfied with my mass i would put my show off until July and keep going at the mass game or start recomp now. I am pretty satisfied with the base amount of muscle I am carryig now, and maintaining it is about smart choices.
    lol I am so pumped for my deads this weekend that I have to watch myself in this department. Ok I'll do 315 X 8 and see how it feels... I had visions of much more but there's that good sense thing...
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  15. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    I hate to say it, but all of the NO products I have tried make me nauseated before my workouts. And I feel like I have bad gas during the workouts. Burping, belching, and farting. Okay....that's pretty descriptive. haha
    Even JACKED and Ragnarok does this to me. I like the "feel" of these products, especially the BA in them. I just wish they wouldn't make my stomach churn so much.
    I haven't tried the Hemo though. I'll have to give it a test run seeing that Mr.Kleen, Metroba, and GMG like it so much. I trust you guys' opinions.
    Same for me TG. Every type of pump supplement makes me sick as hell. The Hemo being caps could make the difference though.
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  16. Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    For an AM workout person you may want to thrown in a scoop of Jack3d with Anadraulic Pump but 5 scoops has 50 mg of geranium so I am normally well stimmed for my PM workouts. What I like a lot about it is that it seems to work really well with Creatine products when taken 30-45 mins prior to AP. I noticed my strength stays more consistent with this dosing pattern throughout my workouts and I am taking in less carbs... go figure.
    That is due to the creatine already being absorbed by our muscle so it is readily available to create ATP. Optimal, especially with lower carb diets, or fasted workouts. As early as i workout though this may not be possible however I am thinking to dose the creatine at night before I go to bed with some Anabolic Pump, or Yellow Gold. No carbs but still push that into the muscle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Army Guy View Post
    just like the old saying, Size Does matter! Go nice and easy Kleen and the world will be your own personal compitition!!!
    We are talking about weights right????
    Uhmmmmm.... I think so.

    Quote Originally Posted by FlexW99 View Post
    Kleen, I'm taking it all in; way to work...
    Gracias Sir.
    Quote Originally Posted by celc5 View Post
    Ouf,
    there's an LG rep on another board that swears by stacking Hemo and Anadraulic Pump. I've never tried it myself so I can't give feedback on synergy of that specific stack. However, Hemo stacks really well with just about every typical pump/preworkout mix that I've tried inlcuding SMASH, Hemo Rage Black, VasoCharge, and TRAC.

    whoops edit: Hmm, I was thinking anadrualic state. My bad. The anadraulic pump/ hemo stack is a totally novel idea to me. Now you got me thinking here
    I would imagine the addition of a little extra BA and arginine would be great to add to this. You already have the novelty of this being the only AA containing NO supplement adding in some extra basics or the Anadraulic State which also has geranium for a stim may prove to be impressive. May prove to be overkill as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Celc that would be pretty insane if you ask me. Also, I would imagine you could go down to say 2-3 scoops of AP and then full dose Hemodraulix. Doing that would give you a solid ~30 servings of each... pretty sick deal for a pwo stack.
    SOunds gnarley...
    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Glad to hear that the carb depletion is going well. As un-fun as carb depletion is, you're definitely making the best of it.
    Man I feel surprisingly well for carb depleting. Today I feel full and dense, muscle is not longer softer. However I don't feel smaller mentally which tells me the HyperTest is doing something for me mentally, by that I mean heightened confidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    I hate to say it, but all of the NO products I have tried make me nauseated before my workouts. And I feel like I have bad gas during the workouts. Burping, belching, and farting. Okay....that's pretty descriptive. haha
    Even JACKED and Ragnarok does this to me. I like the "feel" of these products, especially the BA in them. I just wish they wouldn't make my stomach churn so much.
    I haven't tried the Hemo though. I'll have to give it a test run seeing that Mr.Kleen, Metroba, and GMG like it so much. I trust you guys' opinions.
    It is interesting because to be honest it is more than likely the BA in them that gives you th bubble guts in the first place. Hey, just let the Thunder roll, and move on with your workout.
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    lol I am so pumped for my deads this weekend that I have to watch myself in this department. Ok I'll do 315 X 8 and see how it feels... I had visions of much more but there's that good sense thing...
    Yeah, however I foresee you doing that then pulling the same 315 for 12 afterwards due to it not being as challenging as you need it to be. You Sir are a beast.
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  17. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Yeah, however I foresee you doing that then pulling the same 315 for 12 afterwards due to it not being as challenging as you need it to be. You Sir are a beast.
    Mayhap but I be an old beast and will exercise caution....
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  18. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Same for me TG. Every type of pump supplement makes me sick as hell. The Hemo being caps could make the difference though.
    I've tried almost all of them. My workouts start off fine, but by midway, I'm ready to toss my cookies. Not the feeling I want when I'm in Berzerker Battle Mode!!!
    I do much better with just a cup of strong coffee about 1/2 hour before wartime. I sometimes take a 200mg. caff tab with it. That gets me amped enough.
    Off topic here AZ, are you still training DC? If you wanna change things up sometime, I can assure you that this full-body drop set workout that Mr.Kleen is doing here is uber intense!!
    I just completed my first whole body drop set session this morning, and I'm wasted. Just totally spent.
    Left it all on the "killing floor"!!!!
    THE PAIN YOU ENDURE TODAY WILL PRODUCE THE POWER YOU ENJOY TOMORROW!!

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  19. Digging the log brutha!!! Keep it up!!! Lots of knowledge in this log!!
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Mayhap but I be an old beast and will exercise caution....
    Definitely the best option.
    Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    I've tried almost all of them. My workouts start off fine, but by midway, I'm ready to toss my cookies. Not the feeling I want when I'm in Berzerker Battle Mode!!!
    I do much better with just a cup of strong coffee about 1/2 hour before wartime. I sometimes take a 200mg. caff tab with it. That gets me amped enough.
    Off topic here AZ, are you still training DC? If you wanna change things up sometime, I can assure you that this full-body drop set workout that Mr.Kleen is doing here is uber intense!!
    I just completed my first whole body drop set session this morning, and I'm wasted. Just totally spent.
    Left it all on the "killing floor"!!!!
    Yeah i completely love this training it is such an all in one workout. With rep modifications and longer rest periods it can pack on a lot of mass. With the shorter resp periods it become perfect for recomping and overall conditioning. Gets rid of the visceral fat quickly too.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    Digging the log brutha!!! Keep it up!!! Lots of knowledge in this log!!
    Thanks Man!
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  21. Day 7 General update.


    Hey guys, just a general update here. I noticed a few things this morning, I am deceptively full looking for having been on low carbs for days. My muscles are feeling very dense and tight right now. Skin is tightening a bit due to some water loss which may be attributing to the feeling of fullness. However the muscle density is on point for sure. I am not sure if I can attest this to HyperTest or some Hemo residuals floating around in my bloodstream. Either way it is nice to be hard and dense feeling again. Not puffy muscle. I have also noticed some increase vascularity as well. I am sure that is a mix of diet training and supps. I will weigh myself tomorrow and put it up here, but will not put pics up again until next Saturday more than likely.

    On a training note, I did not get up for cardio today. I was just really tired. I wish I could run a GH product with this stack to help my rest. Sleep has not been as good as i would like it to be lately. I am still a little ashamed of myself for making the choice to stay in bed but hopefully the extra hour sleep gave me some needed recovery. I will make up my cardio session tonight and add 10 minutes to it for the cals I could have burned all day if I had raised my metabolism in the morning. I am not one to skip out during a cut, consistency is of the utmost importance during this time. Missing like this will help to ensure I dont again because now I am upset about it. I will fix it but until I do, I know there is a check box left unchecked on my daily responsibilities to myself and this show.
    Live Hard, Laugh Hard, Love Hard and Heal Fast! - KLEEN
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  22. Not recovering well can make things catabolic Kleen. Better to rest and burn the cals when energy is firing full strength!!
    Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons

  23. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Hey guys, just a general update here. I noticed a few things this morning, I am deceptively full looking for having been on low carbs for days. My muscles are feeling very dense and tight right now. Skin is tightening a bit due to some water loss which may be attributing to the feeling of fullness. However the muscle density is on point for sure. I am not sure if I can attest this to HyperTest or some Hemo residuals floating around in my bloodstream. Either way it is nice to be hard and dense feeling again. Not puffy muscle. I have also noticed some increase vascularity as well. I am sure that is a mix of diet training and supps. I will weigh myself tomorrow and put it up here, but will not put pics up again until next Saturday more than likely.

    On a training note, I did not get up for cardio today. I was just really tired. I wish I could run a GH product with this stack to help my rest. Sleep has not been as good as i would like it to be lately. I am still a little ashamed of myself for making the choice to stay in bed but hopefully the extra hour sleep gave me some needed recovery. I will make up my cardio session tonight and add 10 minutes to it for the cals I could have burned all day if I had raised my metabolism in the morning. I am not one to skip out during a cut, consistency is of the utmost importance during this time. Missing like this will help to ensure I dont again because now I am upset about it. I will fix it but until I do, I know there is a check box left unchecked on my daily responsibilities to myself and this show.
    Your body may have really needed the extra rest nothing to be ashamed about. I have no doubt you will get right back on point.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    Hey guys, just a general update here. I noticed a few things this morning, I am deceptively full looking for having been on low carbs for days. My muscles are feeling very dense and tight right now. Skin is tightening a bit due to some water loss which may be attributing to the feeling of fullness. However the muscle density is on point for sure. I am not sure if I can attest this to HyperTest or some Hemo residuals floating around in my bloodstream. Either way it is nice to be hard and dense feeling again. Not puffy muscle. I have also noticed some increase vascularity as well. I am sure that is a mix of diet training and supps. I will weigh myself tomorrow and put it up here, but will not put pics up again until next Saturday more than likely.

    On a training note, I did not get up for cardio today. I was just really tired. I wish I could run a GH product with this stack to help my rest. Sleep has not been as good as i would like it to be lately. I am still a little ashamed of myself for making the choice to stay in bed but hopefully the extra hour sleep gave me some needed recovery. I will make up my cardio session tonight and add 10 minutes to it for the cals I could have burned all day if I had raised my metabolism in the morning. I am not one to skip out during a cut, consistency is of the utmost importance during this time. Missing like this will help to ensure I dont again because now I am upset about it. I will fix it but until I do, I know there is a check box left unchecked on my daily responsibilities to myself and this show.
    What I do is keep track of how much cardio I do on a weekly basis that way if I miss a session there is opportunity to make it up.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  25. Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    Not recovering well can make things catabolic Kleen. Better to rest and burn the cals when energy is firing full strength!!
    Yeah, I think so too. Still I get frustrated.
    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    Your body may have really needed the extra rest nothing to be ashamed about. I have no doubt you will get right back on point.
    Yeah that is definitely the plan.
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    What I do is keep track of how much cardio I do on a weekly basis that way if I miss a session there is opportunity to make it up.
    True, I may just move it over to Sunday. It is all about the averages over the week. I rest today I don't Sunday. May go with that too. we will just see how I feel tonight.
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