No-Nonsense Project Z Alpha Test: Universal's New Recovery Pak
- 01-07-2010, 02:07 AM
No-Nonsense Project Z Alpha Test: Universal's New Recovery Pak
-I'm gonna take a simple and short aprroach to my log. I know i dont like sweefting though pages of non-sense to see how a person is reacting to a supplement. I just want to know if the supplement works or not, and for them to give a fair honest review. And thats what i'm gonna do.
You could say Animal Style.
-Updates will be daily, but im not going to record numbers on weights, or tell you what im eating everyday. I dont believe in that, nor do i think it helps inform people, especially in the context of the product I'm testing.
-I actually have no clue what in it, but know to take it and night, and it should help with recovery.
-All my efforts will be going to reviewing Project Z and testing it.
-There will be a final feedback review regarding my testing, that will help Animal get info on how their product is working for different people.
-I Will update everyday, some days I may have not much to say, some days i may do a paragraph. It starts after my first dose at night, Day 1, tommorow.
-Once again, i have no clue whats in it, so i dont exactly know what to look for.
Three main subjective things Im gonna be looking at:
Recovery: Regarding Soreness and if i can skip and off day or two.
Strength: Subjectlively, do i feel stronger?
Sleep: Subjectlively, do i sleep better?
Im going be as short and concise as I can, while still being informative.
A Little Info:
-Working out 5 years seriously
-Much experience with many supps, especially ones for recovery
-Love Universal Products, and the company's no BS approach
-Current Training is FST-7, which i love. I do every workout to the max, and dont care about how much I'm lifting, just how much the muscle feels the exercise
-Currently taking other supplements, but none at night
-I know my body full well, and i know if something is working or not
Notes on Universal:
-Thank you for the opportunity, very exiting
-Love how the plain tin can looks
-Loved the bumber sticker, Animal Pump sample, and nice letter
- 01-07-2010, 03:28 PM
First Dosing:I think I felt a pump 30-60 minutes after dosing. Went to bed 1 hour after dosing. It did not make me tired, maybe more relaxed.
Sleep: Approximately 9 hours
Wake-up: I don't feel groggy, and i feel cranky, maybe aggressive
Sleep Quality: Normal
Soreness: I feel more sore than yesterday, but that could just be my DOMS from my workout two days ago.
Initial Thoughs on whats in here: The 6 big tablets, two white caps, and two herbal caps. I feel theres some anti-cortisol effects, some pump effects, there could be some amino acids in here. I dont think i have tried the herbs that are in here, because from the burp, i could not detect any familiar aromas.
- 01-07-2010, 09:36 PM
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Comments by this person are their own personal opinion and should be taken as that. Unless quoted from a different source.
Day 1 Update
Had a crazy leg workout, i had huge pump going on, it was hard to walk.
I could already feel the soreness coming, i couldnt resist and took a pak after my workout with my shake, see what thatll do for me.
Im gonna take another pak, before i go to bed.
I feel some cortisol inhibiting effects, I think. Ive taken some other cortisol inhibiting products, and it kind of feels like cortisol is being lowered. I have no clue whether or not it is. Feel more relaxed but does not make me sleepy. I did feel a slight pump from taking two packs yesterday, could be in my mind.
I'm super sore today actually, and i don't think anything could have prevented that.
I did 4 sets of heavy hack squats, followed by leg curls and leg extensions in FST-7 format. For those that dont know, FST-7 stands for seven sets of 15 reps for one exericise with 30 seconds between each set. I also did some calf work.
I took 2 paks last night because i like the experiment and my legs could barely function
I took em and then 4 hours later i went to sleep, i went to sleep way past my usual schedule.
I slept 10 hours and people were calling me and i didnt hear them.
I swear i felt a pump last night that laster and hour, and a cortisol lowering effect that lasted an hour. Then my mind got energized or something, and i got very hungry and ate. The pump only last about an hour as far as i can tell.
I only did this once, my legs feel less sore, as far as i can tell.
But regular dosing from here on out.
Take some of my off-the-wall comments as just rambling, until i finish and can post a final review. Cause from day to day, theres differenent factors that could change how i perceive its actions, or how its actions take place on me.
I can say so far that i notice additional pumps when i take. And a cortisol lowering effects. But its only been three days, so many factors could be in the mix.
I have just taken a pak with my last steak and brocoli meal, 3 hours before my planned bedtime. I have a weird schedule right now.
i feel that it doesnt make me sleepy, perhaps relaxed.
Taking it with my lab ultra-low carb meal before bedtime. I feel it doesnt really help me sleep, perhaps can even activiate me a little bit. And perhaps food enchances absorbtion will have to see.
No pump with last dose.
Cortisol controll seems to be key.
Im also think they might have some time released select aminos in here.
Took my dose after my back workout, and i think this is the way im going to be dosing from here on out.
-It doesnt make me sleepy, even possibly energetic.
(could be,perhaps to a growth hormone enchancing component, as ive taken growth hormone enchancers before and they usually stimulate me)
-Its for recovery so why not the best time window, in the anabolic time window after the workout?
-Recovery is better than usual, nothing crazy though.
-Pulled 325-8 on partial deads, pretty good,maybe very good, for me. Other exercises as well included in the workout.
Day 6 (update)
I had taken another dose pre-bed, and had excellent sleep, although i also took benardyl.
Awesome sleep, there may be cumalative effects.
Two paks, again, i have a problem with doing this.
one post workout, one pre-bed.
Pre-bed dose makes me hungry.
Had a chest workout, and did a pyramid scheme on bench, and went all the way up to 245-3, which i think is the highest ive done in a while, or maybe thats my new PR. Repped 2 sets of 195 no problems, 2 sets of 145 no problem, 2 sets of 95 no problems, in the 6-12 range depending on weight.
By the way, how do you like log, is it helpful at all?
I think trying double dosing, which i havent seen any other logger do, and it was extra helpful on workout day with bench, squats, and dead lift taken post workout. I take shock therapy before, so i think the Formula Z helps me relax and helps with the recovery.
Wont be doing it anymore, cause i want to strech my log out, i didnt even know if we were supposed to do that, but there werent too many instruction, other than to take it before bed.
If you ask my feedback, i think a little higher dosing of the product would be better, or include like 40 packs instead of 30 in can. So people can take an extra pack on like really tough days.
There arent really any bad side effects from this product at all. It might increase my hunger when taken on an empty stomach.
Ive been sleeping better, last night was great, and pretty much everynight has been great, but it varies of course.
Recovery is great, as far a supplement that doesnt have apparent side effects goes, nothing super-incredible but definately noticeable.
This seems like a staple pak to me, or at least every other month, or as much as you could afford.
Had a bad sleep, but don't attribute it to Project Z.
Took Z on a full empty stomach right before bed. Was about to crash. Fell asleep, then awoke 3 hours later faily wide awake which does not happen very often. I might take it late in the evening and so close to bedtime on a super empty stomach. Id say it activated me. there may be some growth hormone enchancing component in here. I have take some other GH pill products, and they also kind of make me awake.
Amazing sleep(10 hours)
Been doing good, product does what I expected it to do, but it doesn't necessarily revolutionize anything.
Geez, it's lonely in here. Always hard to keep a log with no one around.
I wouldn't really expect a "recovery" pak to be too revolutionary - just something basic that is not so easily "felt".
It'll be interesting to see how Animal releases this: a stack with regular Pak (so you get both pre- and post-workout covered) would be nice.
Day 16 and 17
Continued effects as mentioned previously.
Feeling continued effects and good sleep
I think Z might activate me, on certain occasions rather than make me sleepy. I got 7 hours of sleep, when i took it on a very empty stomach before bed. Sleep was decent, i had a good chest workout, but not like my previous chest workouts during the log.
Im going to try one day off, see how i feel, difference perhaps.
Edit: DAY 20
Feel more sore than in the past 18 days, but slept better than yesterday. No Pak last night.
Felt really good today, had leg workout, except no hamstrings
Did smith machine hack squats at 360-10(PR), which is up from last week. I would partly attribute this increase from the better recovery from Z. I put my legs on the bottom edge of the platform, to really target my quads.
Leveled it out with less heavier hack squats at from 6-10.
Finished it with FST- 7 calf raises and leg extensions.
Days 22 and 23
Had a poor sleep but managed to have a fairly decent Back/Biceps workout.
Had an excellent sleep, not to much soreness from the deadlifts.
To note: Full review will commence, once i finish the can, full review, will be compressive and give my overall view of the product.
Nothing new to report, good sleep. Not so much DOMS from deads.
Day 25 and Day 26
Everything as usual
Did not take pak. Did not notice anything unusual.
Did not take pak again and noticed extra soreness from leg day.
Project Z Alpha Test Review
Recovery- Well this is what its supposed to enhance. Overall, I say it definitely does. It does a great job. DOMS was reduced in general but varied day to day, of course. I couldnít tell you exactly how much it sped recovery. I did increase workouts, but increased weights over what id normally do.
Cost Effectiveness Ė Since I got this free, excellent. However, Id be willing to pay between 25 to 35 dollars. I think it might fall into that price range but I donít know. It probably wont be as cheap as Animal Pak nor as expensive as Animal test. But if the price is right, id be willing to go on and off of it.
Sleep Ė As this is named Project Z, Id think Z as in getting some Zzzzzs. However I did not notice a definitive change. I generally donít get a huge response off OTC sleep aids. Sleep varied greatly at times. Sometimes I felt that Project Z enhanced my sleep. Other times I felt that it activated me, and prevented me to go to bed on time. I think it has anti-cortisol effects.
Cortisol- I think it was being lowered. I could say the supp does not make me sleepy, but overall I think it gives a relaxed feeling.
Pumps- Yeah I know, not what youd expect. When taken on a fully empty stomach I could swear some type of pump. It didnít happen all the time and it wasnít a huge pump.
Hunger- When taken on an empty stomach I felt more hungry. Definitely
Dosing- I experimented a little. Some days I didnít take it. Some days I took two paks. I figured out the best way for me to dose. Take two on my three workout days of the week, take one 3 other times, and then 1 day off.
Pills- A few of them are a tad to big. Little hard to swallow. No big deal, but to be noted.
Bro, great work outlining your dosing and workouts in here. We appreciate your feedback man. You fellas that logged this stuff are key in helping the Lab-coats make the final adjustments (if needed) to make this product what it wil finally be when publicly released. Your roll in this was very special so once again, thank you for the work you did. It helps more than you know.
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