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    Gonzo is Vaporizing Fat with AMS' new VAPOR-XT(Sponsered)


    I would like to thank AMS for letting me giving me the chance to run what looks like a start to their fat burner line, Vapor XT. This is a very very interesting compound that I cannot wait to try.
    So here we go...
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    Thermogenics Redefined! with Halostachine (TM)

    Remember the legendary ECA stack? If you don't, it was probably the most effective weight loss/energy/stimulant product this industry has ever seen. Its components were - Ephedrine, Caffeine and Aspirin (and later - replaced by White Willow Bark).

    Since its dubious departure - no fat burning products have been able to replicate its performance. Many have tried. Numerous stimulants have been introduced. Not until now has a company successfully produced a product capable of replicating the performance of the ECA stack.

    Advanced Muscle Science has recreated the hallowed ECA stack with the only compound to approach the strength of ephedrine in stimulation and in fat burning capabilities.

    This amazing compound is a NEW discovery by AMS. This innovative company has just locked down a long term licensing agreement to ensure that this key compound will be available in its strongest form.

    AMS is known almost exclusively as a muscle-building component company, they knew that if they entered the world of fat burning - they needed a game changer!

    So many reputable supplement companies have tried to mimic the fat burning effects of the ECA stack - only to fall short. Either they didn't pack the energy punch of ephedrine or they couldn't reach the fat burning effects...sadly most products failed in both categories.

    It's been a long while since a legitimately NEW stimulant has hit the market. Let's take a look at the new compound and see what makes it so special and why it is a TRUE replacement for ephedrine. First, it was tough to find a naturally occurring alkaloid that was similar to ephedrine. Synephrine was close in structure, but failed to give the energy boost of ephedrine. Geranamine was a good try, but didn't really provide pack the weight loss punch expected. PEA looked good on paper, but didn't really deliver the long-term effects desired. Even though these products are decent stimulants, the world just wasn't happy with them as TRUE ephedrine replacements. Second, the new stimulant had to hit hard like ephedrine without causing the increase in blood pressure and occasional heart- related effects. This was probably the toughest part of the challenge in finding a new stimulant that really worked like ephedrine. We needed something that was similar but didn't cause these risky side effects.

    Ladies, gentleman and stimulant junkies - AMS gives you Halostachine! This stimulant fits the bill perfectly. When you take it, you will know why we think it's more potent than ephedrine, milligram for milligram and without the negative side effects like the massive blood pressure spikes associated with ephedrine.

    Halostachine is patent pending and only available in Vapor-XT, which means you can't get this in ANY other supplement. Halostachine works by giving your body the peak mental stimulation of ephedrine as well as Beta 3 stimulation without spiking blood pressure. This means it delivers all of the benefits of ephedrine without the negatives side effects. In studies, Halostachine is almost twice as safe as ephedrine while still showing the massive fat burning potential once coveted by ephedrine users.

    Finally - we took this powerful new stimulant and mixed it with the classic CA stack (which is caffeine and "aspirin" in the form of white willow bark), giving you the new HCA stack! This stack is something available only in Vapor XT and is unlike anything since ephedrine. Ephedrine junkies will have to try it to believe it! Welcome to the NEW king of stimulants only from AMS - Thermogenics Redefined!

    Halostachine 25mg/cap
    Caffeine 200mg/cap
    Standardized White Willow Bark 150mg/cap


    Very interesting I think, and I have very high hopes for Vapor XT.
    here the run down.

    SPECS:
    Weight: Ill update this later with a starting weight, should be around 192 or so but this past holiday was hard on my diet
    BF%:14-15%
    Height:5'8"

    DIET:
    My diet is going to be for fat loss, trying to drop BF without cutting into my strength too much, Ill be doing a strength test mid way to see how thats being affected right now i'm at
    Bench:250(wrist wraps)
    Squat:315(belt)
    Dead:365(belt and straps)

    SO maintenance is about 3000 cals, so I'm shooting for around 2500 cals a day. With about 100gs of carbs, trying to really keep that down. Everythings going to be clean of course, and trying my best to really get my cals i need in protein of course.


    TRAINING:
    This is going to be where I bring it. My diet isn't always 100% on, but for this it will be as close to 100 as i can get it. But training is where i'm going to make up for a slightly unbalanced diet. I have a fitness test in about a month, the main components is a mile run, 60yd dash, an agility test, bench and leg press test. Mainly my concern is my cardio. So ill be hitting that hard for the next 4 weeks.
    Ill be definitely getting fasted cycling just about everyday. Working on some distant running as well was timed mile. Ill do my best to get sprints and aglitly work in (ladder drills ect.) but some does depend on weather, considering I dont have the space inside to train that well.
    Because Im tight on time Ill be working a 5 day cycle.
    Day1. Chest/tris/traps
    Day2.Legs/Calves/Core
    Day3.Back/bis/forearms
    Day4.Shoulders/traps/calves
    Day5.Compound full body/arms
    repeat
    Cardio everyday, just going to change it up depending on time and what it's like outside.


    DOSING:
    I have 30 2cap packs. so 60caps. I will be starting with 2 a day then move to 3 a day. I am very tolerant to stim so I'm intrested to see how this effects me.

    OTHER SUPPS:
    This will be pretty much a dry run, ill be taking my protein (Universal Ultra whey pro) some Omega 3-6-9 , creatine, and a pre w/o blend of beta-alanine, AAKG and GPLC.
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    FINAL REVIEW


    So here we go, all finished up and a final review for Vapor XT. Ratings are based on 1-10 with 10 being the highest.

    ENERGY: 9
    Great feeling of energy. The first few doses I really felt the increase in energy. No jitters or increased heart rate. When I finished up Vapor I did get the big realization of how much energy this product gave me. For a day or 2 I had to get used to my normal energy levels to say the least was NOT fun, but I feel well adjusted now, with no problems.

    BODY TEMP: Slight Increase
    Again, just sitting I did noticed some sweating taking place from my armpits, nothing uncomfortable. Def felt good to know there was some reactions going on to be reassured the product was doing something.

    FAT LOSS: 7
    Noticed some leaning out, through a decent diet and good cardio regime, I feel Vapor did help out. I saw leaning out in my quads and calfs, and more vascalarity through my forearms, and arms. Slight leaning out in my chest. Didnt noticed much difference in my stubborn belly fat though.

    SIDES: None-Minimal
    Besides the increase in body temp there was no unpleasing sides to come along with Vapor.

    OVERALL: 8.5
    So far the best substitute to the real ECA that I've tried. Great energy, great overall feeling, felt positive through some rough times in my person life on this supp, and I'm really excited to give this another run.

    WOULD I BUY: YES
    And I will as soon as I figure out my budget. I would recommend this for someone whos looking for some weight loss help, that needs the energy to get through their cardio and workouts low on carbs.

    Intrested in giving VAPOR A Go?
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    Thanks again for all those to stuck along, its been fun, i'd be happy to anwser any specific questions.

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    btw thank you AMS for the sweet shirt, very nice touch.

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    will have a day 1 and 2 and first impression up before the end of tonight.

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    Day 1:

    DIET
    weight:198
    Cals:2744
    Fat:141.5
    Carbs:131
    Protein:295

    TRAINING
    Incline w/ semi rep bench* 135x6 135x4 105x8 105x7 105x7
    flat bench 195x6 195x6 195x6
    DB fly 45x8 45x8 45x8
    Pec Dec 70x25 70x25 70x25
    Close grip bench 105x10 105x10 105x10 105x10 105x10
    **DB over head tri ext 45x15 45x15 45x15
    **DB shullcrushers 15x15 15x14 14x11
    Shrugs 135x12 135x12 135x12

    tredmil run 2 miles in 21:30
    Stat. bike 20mins


    Day 2:


    DIET
    weight:195
    Cals:2624
    Fat:130
    Carbs:126
    Protein:230

    TRAINING
    Squat 245x6 245x6 245x6 295x1 325x1
    Squat w/semi rep 135x5 135x5 135x5
    DB lunges 35s x 10each leg 35s x 10each leg 35s x 10each leg
    Leg press 250x30 250x30 250x30
    Leg curl 70x30 70x30 70x30
    Leg ext 100x30 100x30 100x30
    Standing calf raises BW+200x30 BW+200x30 BW+200x30

    Tredmil 2 miles in 20:45

    Day 3:

    DIET
    I went into the city (NYC that is) for the day, so my diet took a hit thats for sure (If you never have pizza downtown in NYC you haven't lived) and my workout was at 3:30am on bout 3 hours sleep so haha this wasn't my best day.

    Weight:194
    Cals:3045
    Fat:142
    Carbs:254
    Protien:155


    TRAINING

    **Deads 245x8 245x8 245x8 245x8 245x8
    **DB row 60x10 60x10 60x10 60x10 60x10
    pullups BWx8 BWx8 BWx7 BWx6 BWx 4
    Lat pulldown 100x15 100x15 100x15 100x15 100x15
    Low cable row 100x15 100x15 100x15 100x15 100x15

    walking. Felt like i walked all over the city because my girlfriend has a problem with taking the subway so i'd say atleast walked 40 blocks from going to the MET to the tree, then walking around the village and washing square.


    Day 4:

    DIET
    Weight:196
    Dont have macros for this day because Mainly just muching here or there, nothing too terrible though.

    TRAINING

    DB shoulder press 60x12 60x12 60x12 60x12 60x7-35x5
    Leaning lat raise 25x10 25x10 25x10 25x10 25x10
    Lat raise 30x15 30x15 30x15 30x15+30x5(cheat)+15x5 30x15+30x5(cheat)+15x5
    Front raise 25x10 25x10 25x10
    DB shrug 60sx35 60sx35 60sx35
    sitting calf raise 150x25 150x25 150x25 150x25 150x25

    tredmil 15mins incline 2.0 speed 6.5 forget distance.


    [CENTER]Day 5:
    [/CENTER

    DIET
    weight:195
    cals:1880
    fat:79
    carbs:119
    Protien:170


    TRAINING
    Incline DB bench w/ semi rep 60x8 60x8 60x8 60x8 60x8
    Bench 105x25 135x12 155x8 195x6 225x3 245x1 265x1 270-Failed
    Dips bwx6 bwx6 bwx6 bwx6 bwx6

    Pre w/o cardio followed a 45min spin class dvd. 7.35miles in 45:13 mins
    Evening cardio 6.2 miles in 30 mins Steady state on bike

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    FIRST IMPRESSION:


    Well, over all, i'm pleased. Day 1 i took 1cap am 1cap early pm, noticed some increased energy, not much else. During cardio I did sweat like an animal, also during workouts. Bumped up to 3caps a day with 2caps am and 1cap early pm. This is were i felt the difference. Increased energy was noticeable, nothing uncomfortable or too intense, do note i'm a stim junkie and have a terribly high tolerance to stim. No abnormal heart rates, no jitter. I did have an increased body temp. It wasn't uncomfortable, but as I sat around checking some email before i started my day i noticed just sitting I was sweating, mainly from my armpits.
    Overall, good energy, definitely good pre w/o specially for fasted w/os
    great stuff so far, i'm hoping for good results

    The weather around me has been just terrible so getting out on a field to do sprints and what not is a little hard so my cardio is limited to tredmils and my cannondale hooked up to my home trainer. I'm looking to get 3 or 4 20-40 min cardio session throughout the day, I think this will speed up fat loss greatly

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    that is info i was looking for, trying to find a good stim. keep giving good info like the last post.

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    Here comes round 2 of updates, sorry for the long wait i've been crazy busy with things.

    Took day 6 and 7 off from training. Wanted to recover and hit the new year hard so, Day 8 i believe was monday jan 4th

    DAY 8:


    DIET:
    weight:194
    Cals:2912
    fat:95
    Carbs:213
    protien:274

    TRANING:
    Flat bench 105x12 105x12 185x8 195x8 195x8 195x8 195x8 195x8
    Incline bench 155x5 155x5 155x5 155x5 155x5 105x10 105x10 105x10
    DB Incline fly 50x8 50x8 50x8
    *DB Incline fly 35x6 35x6 35x6
    *DB Incline bench 35x6 35x6 35x6
    Close Grip bench 105x10 105x10 105x10 105x10 105x10
    DB overhead tri ext 60x8 60x8 60x8 60x8 60x8
    Over rope tri ext 100x6 100x6 100x6
    tri pushdown 100x8 100x8 100x8
    DB shrugs 60x15 60x15 60x15

    Cardio:
    Tredmil: 2 miles in 20:00 at 1.5 incline
    Stat Bike:4 miles in 20:00

    Vapor dosed 2 first thing in the AM, 1 mid PM(2-3pm), before PM cardio.


    DAY 9:



    DIET:
    weight:193
    Cals:2500 on the dot
    fat:82
    Carbs:201
    protien:203


    TRANING:
    Squat 215x8 215x8 215x8 215x8 215x8
    Stand calf raise 200x20 200x20 200x20
    DB walking lunges 40'sx10each leg 40'sx10each leg 40'sx10each leg
    Sitting Calf Raise 195x15 195x15 195x15
    Ham curls on Back ext BWx15 BWx15 BWx15
    Leg Ext 70x15 70x15 70x15

    CARDIO:
    Tredmil:1.25miles in 15:00(5min warm up) @ 1.5incline. Im going to slowly be working this up to work on my mile time, not ideal to be doing this on a tredmil but sadly i dont have an inside track available, and the ground is covered in snow still, I'm very.very tempted to bring a the tack and clear a lane.
    Stat. Bike: 60:00mins in 2 half hour sessions 10miles total

    Vapor dosed at 2caps am pre w/o and 2caps mid PM


    THOUGHTS:

    So far so good. I'm enjoying this product very very much. I love the energy I get from this, even while doing fasted AM cardio. Great stuff. Still have a bit of a slight body temp increased, nothing uncomfortable, no jitters still along with no increased heart rate. All is good on the home front. I started out 198(mostly water, bit bloated from xmas family gathering) droped to 195 pretty fast, then now weighed in at 192.6. Im looking a little leaner now. Vascularity throughout my arms and chest is increased, as well as an outline of abs are starting to become visible.
    So in a but shell, great energy, good overall feeling, good leaning out effects
    Also strength as not suffered at all it seems even with increased cardio and a somewhat restricted diet.

    Also the past day or so I've been dosin at 2/2 a day, before that was 2/1. Royd, should I/can i continue dosing at 2/2 or is it not beneficial? 2/2 would last be another 8 days or so, while at 2/1 would last me another 10 or so days.

    I know my posted have been few and far between, I'm going to start updating daily now, as things calm down, so spread the word about Vapor XT this is looking to be a legit energy and fat burning booster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monstermash View Post
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    Good luck with testing this product!

    Bottle design is very nice! Lookin forward to final results.
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    Honestly when it comes to fat loss I prefer the slower approach. So I like the 2/1 dosing better. If you need that stim boost then I suppose 2/2 is better but your more likely going to get more from stretching it out a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    FIRST IMPRESSION:


    Well, over all, i'm pleased. Day 1 i took 1cap am 1cap early pm, noticed some increased energy, not much else. During cardio I did sweat like an animal, also during workouts. Bumped up to 3caps a day with 2caps am and 1cap early pm. This is were i felt the difference. Increased energy was noticeable, nothing uncomfortable or too intense, do note i'm a stim junkie and have a terribly high tolerance to stim. No abnormal heart rates, no jitter. I did have an increased body temp. It wasn't uncomfortable, but as I sat around checking some email before i started my day i noticed just sitting I was sweating, mainly from my armpits.
    Overall, good energy, definitely good pre w/o specially for fasted w/os
    great stuff so far, i'm hoping for good results

    The weather around me has been just terrible so getting out on a field to do sprints and what not is a little hard so my cardio is limited to tredmils and my cannondale hooked up to my home trainer. I'm looking to get 3 or 4 20-40 min cardio session throughout the day, I think this will speed up fat loss greatly
    Glad to hear that you like it! Keep up the good work on the log!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Tiana
    I'd have a hard time choosing between her and Amber though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    Tiana

    Honestly when it comes to fat loss I prefer the slower approach. So I like the 2/1 dosing better. If you need that stim boost then I suppose 2/2 is better but your more likely going to get more from stretching it out a bit more.
    Tiana is a very good choice my friend
    And I hear you on the dosage, Ill bring it back down to 2/1. Ill see how this goes for the longer run.
    I'd have a hard time choosing between her and Amber though.
    Yeah, not like i'd turn any which on down or anyhting but if I had a choice,Tiana would run away with in IMO, but i dont think ambers photo does her enough justice, unfortunaltly it was the best one on flex

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    Tiana is a very good choice my friend
    And I hear you on the dosage, Ill bring it back down to 2/1. Ill see how this goes for the longer run.

    Yeah, not like i'd turn any which on down or anyhting but if I had a choice,Tiana would run away with in IMO, but i dont think ambers photo does her enough justice, unfortunaltly it was the best one on flex
    She's really got the "girl next door" thing going for her. I'm a fan.
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    Shoot man - 800mg of caffeine a day? I think I'd die!

    Halostachine, I sort of remember reading in another thread it's an ephedrine analog or some such thing? I remembering that right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Shoot man - 800mg of caffeine a day? I think I'd die!

    Halostachine, I sort of remember reading in another thread it's an ephedrine analog or some such thing? I remembering that right?
    800 keeps me comfortable throughout the day.
    heres the link i think your talking about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    800 keeps me comfortable throughout the day.
    heres the link i think your talking about
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    DAY: 10


    DIET
    Weight:192
    Cal:2435
    fat:134
    Carbs:123
    Protien:197

    TRAINING:
    Deads 225x8 225x8 225x8 225x8 225x8
    BB Rows 185x8 185x8 185x8 135x8 135x8
    Pull ups BWxfail(10-12 range) 5 sets of this.
    Single arm cable low row 60x10 60x10 60x10 60x10 60x10
    Lat pulldown 110x10 110x10 110x10 110x10 110x10
    BB shurgs 195x6 195x6 195x6 195x6 195x6
    Behind back BB shurg 135x10 135x10 135x10 135x10 135x10
    misc bi work

    CARDIO:
    1.3 miles in 15:22 at 1.5 incline
    15 miles stat. bike spilt into 2 half hour sessions

    DAY: 11


    DIET
    Weight:191.2
    Cals:2193
    Fat:67
    Carbs:178
    Protien:174

    TRAINING
    DB shoulder press 60x12 60x12 60x12 60x12 60x12\
    Smith Shoulder press 135x5 135x5 135x5 135x5 135x5
    Lat raise 20x10 20x10 20x10 20x10 20x10 25x12 25x12 25x12(using rest pause to get to 12)
    front raise 35x6 35x6 35x6 35x6 35x6
    Plate front raise 45x12 45x12 45x12 45x12 45x12
    Rev pec dec 50x15 50x15 50x15

    CARDIO:
    Stat. bike 2 half hour sessions 14 miles

    DAY: 12


    I don't have macros for this day, busy day but everything was in check

    TRAINING
    Bench 105x10 205x8 205x8 205x8 205x8 205x8
    Incline bench 135x8 135x8 135x8 135x6--105x2-(rest pause)-105x2
    Incline fly 50x8 50x8 50x8
    *incline fly 30x10 30x10 30x10 30x10 30x10
    *incline press 30x6 30x6 30x6 30x5 30x3
    Cable cross 40x12 40x12 40x12

    CARDIO:
    Stat bike. 12 miles in 2 30 min sessions

    Wasn't really feeling too good today, a bit of stress and just not my day.

    Decided to day the next day (yesterday) Saturday off, and today a cardio day.
    Weight is steady at 192-193
    This week looking to hit it hard like alwasy, cardio up and training up. I think my biggest problem is working on a 4 day spilt that doesn't align with a calender week. I watched a video of kai greene training chest, and I remember him saying something a long the lines of "your chest doesn't know when its monday" which is true, i'm just a bit anal about it, but i'm going to be breaking that mold hopefully this week, hitting 4 days, seeing if a rest day is needed then starting the spilt again either friday or saturday.

    As far as vapor goes. The past few days i've felt kinda like crap, I have a bit of stress going on though. I'm doing my best to not let it interfere with training. Other wise, everything seems to be in check. Dosin at 2/1, no sides to report besides slightly elevated body temp. Great stim, and seeing some weight loss, also no loss in strength, most areas are improving as i'm really concentrated on beating my last workouts numbers. Really trying to work on intensity, and get some good work done.

    Speaking of intensity I heard this somewhere, I'm not sure where though.

    "Intensity is an elusive topic. Vague and indefinable. Yet one thing is certain. You know DEEP DOWN WHEN U HAVE IT. It isn't determined by a fancy title or the decree of some exercise authority. IT'S INSIDE. YOU CAN'T FAKE IT. Your muscles won't let you. That's what's SO AMAZING ABOUT BODYBUILDING. IT'S YOU , AGAINST YOURSELF. YOU DO THE WORK. YOU REAP THE REWARD. Just remember, there's a difference between passion and hostility. Don't try to beat your body into submission. Approach each set, each rep WITH CONCENTRATION AND DETERMINATION and the INTENSITY will take care of itself. Train as long, or as short, as it takes. JUST MAKE SURE YOU GET THE JOB DONE!"

    I hope to take that into this next week being 2 weeks out from my fitness testing.
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    lana!!!!!!! btw-life knocks us down once in awhile, you just have to get off the mat and keep coming back for more till you whoop it's asss!
    btw- you seem to have a strong tolerance to stims, when most people say clean/jitter free energy i know i won't get much from it. judging by your review i think vapor-xt might be very good. i like a stim with some bite to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    lana!!!!!!! btw-life knocks us down once in awhile, you just have to get off the mat and keep coming back for more till you whoop it's asss!
    btw- you seem to have a strong tolerance to stims, when most people say clean/jitter free energy i know i won't get much from it. judging by your review i think vapor-xt might be very good. i like a stim with some bite to it.
    thanks for the advance my man, and lana defa winner
    as far as stim goes i am a junkie.
    Its a nice boost of sitm thats long lasting. If I take 2 caps around 9am i'm set till 3-4pm without any other stim before slowing down. So i take my 3rd cap around 3 and generally keeps me alert and not feeling fatigued till later that night, depending on how my day went. right around 6:30 or 7 i notice i'm back to normal. One day i did miss my second dose and didnt take it till round 8:30 9, but was fine to go to bed at around 12:30 (which is normal, didn't interfere)
    whats been working well is upon waking, cardio breakfast with my normal morning coffee, then i have a little break an hour or so before working out, ill take vapor about 30mins pre w/o and it powers me all the way through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzo14 View Post
    thanks for the advance my man, and lana defa winner
    as far as stim goes i am a junkie.
    Its a nice boost of sitm thats long lasting. If I take 2 caps around 9am i'm set till 3-4pm without any other stim before slowing down. So i take my 3rd cap around 3 and generally keeps me alert and not feeling fatigued till later that night, depending on how my day went. right around 6:30 or 7 i notice i'm back to normal. One day i did miss my second dose and didnt take it till round 8:30 9, but was fine to go to bed at around 12:30 (which is normal, didn't interfere)
    whats been working well is upon waking, cardio breakfast with my normal morning coffee, then i have a little break an hour or so before working out, ill take vapor about 30mins pre w/o and it powers me all the way through.
    nice, i usually take 2 meltdown upon waking the another 1-2 in afternoon. looking to change it up- you think the vapor would be a good replacement for the redline?
    and lana is HOT!

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    This week has been to the ****ter and back with everything so its been very hard for me to update and I really apologize. I have still been hitting it hard in the gym, but here is an update with my thoughts on Vapor.

    THOUGHTS:


    ENERGY: 8.5-9/10
    When I started Vapor is I noticed good energy throughout the day. I could feel and notice I was full of energy and ready to go. As time went on my body did adapt to the increase in stim, so it wasnt as noticeable to me. But If i waiting too long for the second dose of Vapor, I'd hit the wall, and then i'd be back to normal when I finally got the second dose in me. So from someone who's CNS is fried from stim, this is a promising product.

    HUNGER: SLIGHTLY SUPPRESSED
    I didn't really noticed major hunger suppression or increased hunger. Sometimes I just didn't feel as hungry as I normally would, but nothing that made me not want to eat. Eating habits were just about baseline, so if anything there was a slight suppression.

    FAT LOSS: 7/10
    I must have a problem with abdominal fat, because while it seems its slowly being lost, I feel when it gets to a certain point, it wont budge. I've gained some nice definition in my quads that I've never seen before so I'm very hapy with that. My arms and chest leaned out a bit. Just still looking to find those abs of mine, I know they are there, they just have to stop being so shy

    OVERALL FEELING:9/10
    Minus the fact things haven't gone my way this pass week hasn't really gotten me to down. I'm positive and energetic. I feel good and healthy. I mean if anything can take away my mid-day fatigue, i'm a happy man haha. Overall I feel very well.


    Yesterday Me and my buddy decided we would go on this hike we put off from the summer. We're not really big hikers(well, we never really went on a real hike) but we figured we're young, and we have a map, we can't really go wrong. The trail is called the Long Island greenbelt that runs a cross section of Long Island New York. Starts from either shore, south or north, and ends at the other shore. In total the trail is 36 miles long. Now, 36 miles I mean it sounds long, but never really clicked in our heads just how long is 36 miles.
    We started around 7am, and didnt finish untill 8pm. It was the longest day of my life, my feet/ankels/calfs/legs are killing me. But if you ever need a good moral boost, and some time away from everything, the best thing is to go on a hike that everything says you probably wont finish in a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Royd The Noyd View Post
    36 miles is a long ass hike!
    your telling me! It was one hell of a challenge but when all was said and down it was a great time.

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    thanks for the log

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    howd u compare it to the ECA stack, it looks similar in its ingrediant profile except for the halostachys caspica extract-25mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudoJosh View Post
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    better late than never, good to have ya along for the end stretch josh

    Quote Originally Posted by Psychabinol View Post
    howd u compare it to the ECA stack, it looks similar in its ingrediant profile except for the halostachys caspica extract-25mg.
    ECA was before my time unfortunately, I have never tried real deal ECA, i've tried using a few replacements using Mu hunag and other types of fill its for E. Comparing it to that, its hands down Vapor. I didnt feel the energy boost i get from Vapor using Mu Hunag. So if someone is looking for an alterntive to acutal ECA, this IMO, is their best bet.

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    All finished up with my Vapor sadly, Look for a final review coming soon.

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    All finished up with my Vapor sadly, Look for a final review coming soon.
    Looking forward to it man. Thanks. We have a sale going on Vapor right now if you need more.
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    thats a wrap folks, check out the 2nd post for final review.

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    NIce review my friend. . .its all very interesting!!!! hmmmm something to pack in the arsenal possibly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaelael View Post
    NIce review my friend. . .its all very interesting!!!! hmmmm something to pack in the arsenal possibly
    def man, something you should consider trying. Tons of good energy

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    The issue I would like to see addressed is the "Do Not exceed more than 6 caps in a 24-hour period" I totally do not get that if you're trying to base standards on the effective ECA stack of no more than 4 caps containing 200mgs of caffeine.

    Vapor has 200 mgs of Caffeine also... but @ 6 caps??? Thats more than 1,200 mgs of caffeine per day if you take six caps. THATS IS JACKED ASS THINKING and totally insane. The ECA limit was 800 mgs in a 24 hour period with epehedrine. (4 Caps)

    So, that 6 cap thing is a typo on the bottle or this Halostochine is REALLY weak as hell.

    This needs to be discussed because at this point i'm suspicious.

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