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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Look in to Phosphatidylserine and the newer studies on its effectiveness to manage cortisol levels after exercise (800mg daily).
    EndoAmp Max by PP anyone? ;D 800mg/serve.

    Recreate is pretty awesome though too, great choice either way.

    OEP is actually making me very excited, for guys who've been on Clen and ECA how does it compare?

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    Haven't tried Clen yet. But on eca I was very alert. Very sweaty and if I strained to hard at work or the gym I just felt like my heart was going to explode.

    Oep is pretty sweet I get a nice mental awareness and a good mood I don't crash when/if it does wear off, only notice I'm missing it when I first wake up. I mean I feel a perk after I take it. But it's like a consistent energy and well being. Eca was a crash every three hours.

    I also think oep has a cumulative effect to it. I didn't notice anything when i first started it. I kinda thought it might be bunk but three days later and ever since I've been in love with the stuff. It rocks.

    UKstrength Have u tried endoamp? been really considering it lately.
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    ^^^^ wow that's why I shouldn't post from a phone can't view it as i type. And I can't edit it.... I'll fix that when I get home.
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    um yeah...subd....sorry i didnt get in on this earlier bro!

    I am def gonna wanna hit up the OEP, RC Anti-cort stack
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    Great before pics. This fat is going to melt off of you. What is your training like?
    All training is fasted.

    every day starts with a 5 min warmup of cardio.
    monday

    military press
    lat raises
    front raises
    db pressup
    cable tricept killing...
    30-40mins cardio
    stretching.

    tuesday

    sumo deadlift or just deadlift
    bb rows
    bb bi curls
    reverse flies
    db curls
    30-40 mins cardio
    rows
    pullups till failure... not many
    chinups till failure... not many
    stretching.

    wed.

    cardio

    thurs- all db or bar depending on if my friend comes with me.
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    30-40mins cardi
    cable flies
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    the machines where you work the inside of your legs (crotch) and then the one that works the outside of your legs (not glutes persay the muscles near it though)
    15-20 mins walking
    stretching.

    sat and sun off.

    I posted this before, and somebody said it was all sorts of screwed up, then when I asked for help to tweak it, he never came through.

    always open to advice, and input to make it better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    um yeah...subd....sorry i didnt get in on this earlier bro!

    I am def gonna wanna hit up the OEP, RC Anti-cort stack


    Thanks for joining the fun...
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    Wink 13 and 3/4 day review


    So it has been almost two weeks since starting this product dosing it at 2 oep in the morning with 1 recreate and 1 oep with 2 recreate in the afternoon. here's a recap of what I've felt/seen/ think about oep:

    I am on a 1250 cal cut.

    *it still is completely killing my appetite.


    *I am In a pretty good mood most of the time, and very very alert. almost as if I had ADD, but there is no cracked out feeling at all

    *I have lost 21 pounds from when I started using this product.

    *strength is still up electronic bf crappy reader, still says I have the same lbm, but I think that think it's junk anyways. get caliper tested the first Monday of December; that is the same day I measure all my inches and stuff... be really cool to document the shrinkage, I am starting to see.

    hit a few new pr's this week. very very nice for me, seeing as how I am definitly in the middle of a cut cycle now.


    *I have seen considerable definition in my shoulder area. this is still improving, as well as my lats, and my whole back... really really love the way I am looking.


    *best part: Had to put a new hole in my belt today to make it tighter. they kept slipping off me. completely irritating and awesome at the same time.

    plans for week 3.

    upping the recreate. new layout is:
    2 oep, and 2 recreate, and anti-cort. morning
    1 oep, and 2 recreate, later
    anti-cort before bed.

    maybe add in some prime... not sure though It would help with recovery, I have been sore lately, but at the same time why tinker with whats working...ya know? any input on this?



    Expectations:


    to keep these results happening, although I wouldn't be surprised if my loss's started slowing down, it's kinda really strange to lose so much so fast. hope it keeps up tho. really really do.



    Final note:


    really excited about getting the chance (I paid for it) to run it for a full 60 days. I am truly dumbstruck at the results I have seen, and hope they continue like no tomorrow!

    a few nights this week it was difficult to fall/stay asleep... if this doesn't go away I have a few choices: take my afternoon dose earlier, cut it out all together, or take a sleep supp of some kind, I have melatonin... worst case.

    am I happy to be taking oep: yes!
    would I recommend oep: yes, my wife wants to start taking it... but I need a solid 60 day run!

    btw to some people. those aren't before pictures I posted, those were from this morning. the only before pictures I have would be over a year old when I was at 323ish... I really don't like the camera. but I'm sure you guys understand that if you'd look like I do.


    Have a great Thanksgiving!

    as always input, comments, and suggestions; keep em coming!
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    Note it was brought up I have been on ap this whole time been on it for about 6 weeks, before carb meals. it's kinda like a staple.
    Also. 30g fish oil vitamin c and d a multi vitamin and that's it.

    Just to set record straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UKStrength View Post
    EndoAmp Max by PP anyone? ;D 800mg/serve.
    Yes; however, why pay $15 more for a name? The form that I get comes with the correct lab essays and is much easier on the wallet.
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    What is the name of that Iron?
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    Neuro-PS. They have a bottle now that is 120 count - 500mg each. Basically, you can get 5 bottles for under $40. Not a bad deal.
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    stupid gym was closed today! I'll make it up tomorrow. hope you all had a good day yesterday...
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    oh my, that sucks, thank gosh mine is open 24-7
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    ben check out my log and wish me luck, i can use all the help and encouragement i can get

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    no gym today. doesn't open in time for a good w/o before work.

    unofficial weight loss: -2 lbs from wed.
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    Angry


    down 2.5 more pounds unofficially. 271.5 lbs

    incredibly irritated. electronic bf doodad checker says that I have now lost 3lbs of hard earned muscle. bumping up intake by 500cals a day to prevent more loss. however yesterday it still said I had the same lbm when I started.... we will see. I'm not feeling weak at all.

    don't really want to believe it, almost feel like going to the bf caliper lady tomorrow to get checked to see whats really going on. all depends if she is there or not.

    side note, 30 pushups 4 pullups, and 2 chinups in a row.... new pr.

    hooray! for me, and endurance!
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    make that 3.5lbs for the day. I just took one beautiful dump. lol jk
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    down 2.5 more pounds unofficially. 271.5 lbs

    incredibly irritated. electronic bf doodad checker says that I have now lost 3lbs of hard earned muscle. bumping up intake by 500cals a day to prevent more loss. however yesterday it still said I had the same lbm when I started.... we will see. I'm not feeling weak at all.

    don't really want to believe it, almost feel like going to the bf caliper lady tomorrow to get checked to see whats really going on. all depends if she is there or not.

    side note, 30 pushups 4 pullups, and 2 chinups in a row.... new pr.

    hooray! for me, and endurance!
    Start the Prime and the muscle loss wil desist somewhat. Your losing fast so you do risk muscle loss in that situation.
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    Have you lost strength? The meter probably goes off of a certain, typical percentage.
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    If strength is not down then i dont see how you lost muscle.....

    IF LBM is the same.....then i dont see how u lost muscle bro...could be water? Im not sure but usually, and im no expert, muscle loss=strength loss so if you are setting new PR's and feeling strong then I wouldnt be too sure if you lost muscle.

    Did you gain 3 lbs of muscle while on OEP? Then lost it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    Have you lost strength? The meter probably goes off of a certain, typical percentage.

    I haven't lost any strength, and gohardblowhard was correct, I have set new pr's since being on this stack: oep, recreate, and anticort.

    I spent the night some where else last night, and the bf lady wasn't there today, so I'll wait till next monday.

    and when I wake up tomorrow, I'll do my electronic bf montior thingy again, hope it changes...


    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    If strength is not down then i dont see how you lost muscle.....

    IF LBM is the same.....then i dont see how u lost muscle bro...could be water? Im not sure but usually, and im no expert, muscle loss=strength loss so if you are setting new PR's and feeling strong then I wouldnt be too sure if you lost muscle.

    Did you gain 3 lbs of muscle while on OEP? Then lost it?


    LBM was the same on last wed. but when I checked on yesterday it showed the loss. I know that everything changes all the time, but that was a significant difference.

    thanks for the input. I should have considered that, but I was under the impression from what I thought and read that you can gain strength while losing muscle. if that is not the case, which you and casey have both said. The machine must have been off. maybe I did something out of routine that morning. idk.

    because my strength is increasing even in my current calorie deficit.

    Thanks for your input guys. makes me feel better knowing that I shouldn't be losing lbm when I am increasing in strength
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Start the Prime and the muscle loss will desist somewhat. Your losing fast so you do risk muscle loss in that situation.
    true, good points and recovery has been a severe issue... starting prime up tomorrow.

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    Worrying about .0001% loss is much more counterproductive....

    Get to the gym, and continue setting PR's!
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    nothing to say today.

    Wasn't home at breakfast to weight myself. couldn't go to any gym because of where I was staying.

    settled for an hour of cardio on an ellyptical.

    thanks again for the input guys! let's keep this fat melting away and going down the drain!
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    Quote Originally Posted by borobulker View Post
    Worrying about .0001% loss is much more counterproductive....

    Get to the gym, and continue setting PR's!
    Darn tooting man! You don't think the prime will inhibit my awesome loss's do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    Darn tooting man! You don't think the prime will inhibit my awesome loss's do you?
    If anything bro it will allow you to gain more muscle and continue to lose fat. This may not be reflected on the scale b/c this increase in muscle can either be equal to or greater then the decrease of fat.

    But on the bright side....the mirror will def show your progress. And to further reassure you i dont think its very easy to gain mass while in true caloric deficit. You body needs to take in mass to pack on mass. If you 3500 calories below maintence every week then you dont have 3500 calories to build mass.

    Is it possible to build mass on a cut? I believe it is....but then it become more of a recomp then a cut.

    Have fun with the prime....i always do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    If anything bro it will allow you to gain more muscle and continue to lose fat. This may not be reflected on the scale b/c this increase in muscle can either be equal to or greater then the decrease of fat.

    But on the bright side....the mirror will def show your progress. And to further reassure you i dont think its very easy to gain mass while in true caloric deficit. You body needs to take in mass to pack on mass. If you 3500 calories below maintence every week then you dont have 3500 calories to build mass.

    Is it possible to build mass on a cut? I believe it is....but then it become more of a recomp then a cut.

    Have fun with the prime....i always do!
    Thanks I'm more around a weekly deficit of 7000cals. I'm hoping the prime helps me recover a little quicker, because I've been sore for two or three or sometimes for four days after w/o. kinda blows.

    I never have a problem with the scale not moving all the much, the more it moves the better, but as long as definition keeps coming in, and the wife keeps giving me those stares... its all good

    you're the man gohard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    you're the man gohard.
    For some reason that made me lol.
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    workout this morning was the first w/o in four days besides cardio. felt good to feel the pump and burn. felt a little weaker in the gym but kept the same lifts going strong!

    1st day with prime.

    on the military press, the rack we have for it has plenty of safety drop spots... I don't really use a spotter because I don't know anyone, and if I cant do it, I just let the bar go down to the rack. today I was strong 45 and a 2.5 per side. but when I went to rack it I was too high on the left side, missed the rack on the left but I had mostly let go. bar went over the top, weights started sliding off, bar hit the floor, weights hit the floor. wasn't as embarrassed as I was sore, because I tried to regain control of the weight with my arm, and it kinda tweaked my shoulder.

    I stopped the sets of mp's at that point, and went light all day. thats why I felt a lil weak, today. upp'ed the cardio to 45 mins to try to make up for it.

    Shoulders fine, just a little sore, so is my ego.

    after breakfast weight was +2.5lbs.


    Have a great day everyone!
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    today was the official weigh in day. loss was five and a half pounds to 269.5.

    no real big updates today at the gym. shoulder feels much better. missed my prime, no pain at all today! hope it keeps up, the best part about prime= great recoveries!

    review tomorrow. also tomorrow is my last day of oep, till my package arrives.... I don't wanna stop! come on mr ups man come knocking on my door!

    edit: total weight loss, 27.5lbs in three weeks. f'ing ridiculous and crazy, strength is still the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    today was the official weigh in day. loss was five and a half pounds to 269.5.

    no real big updates today at the gym. shoulder feels much better. missed my prime, no pain at all today! hope it keeps up, the best part about prime= great recoveries!

    review tomorrow. also tomorrow is my last day of oep, till my package arrives.... I don't wanna stop! come on mr ups man come knocking on my door!

    edit: total weight loss, 27.5lbs in three weeks. f'ing ridiculous and crazy, strength is still the same.

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    Sorry for the lack of updates. I have the LSAT test tomorrow, and I have been studying virtually non-stop all week long. got an update from work. and i have to travel from the 11th-20th kinda sucks this close to christmas... but they pay the bills.

    Ran out of pills, but got confirmation yesterday that I'll get two more bottles next tuesday! without them, I feel like a crack addict. I have to keep losing mad weight!

    as for an awesome update. This stuff is the Sh*t! it aint nothing new. I love it.

    hopefully a week off of OEP might make me more sensitive to it again when I start taking it on wed. not that the effects are wearing off... but everyone knows the longer you take some thing the more your body adapts. so it will be nice to get hit with it again! lol

    Have a great day everyone, and wish me luck on the LSAT tomorrow!
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    good luck on those LSATs, my girlfriend just passed the bar in two states...its the beginning of a long but rewarding journey. Congrats on the weight loss and best of luck again!
  

  
 

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