DTHC Continuing Recomp
- 08-15-2009, 05:48 AM
DTHC Continuing Recomp
Well I finally am ready to try this supp, I have been hearing mixed reviews but most seem to like it. I guess it's all about how you respond. I have to admit I don't have high hopes as traditionally I do not respond well to this type of product, Prome is an exception.
I will start out with 3 a day for the first 5 days (I am using the older version) like the bottle says and increase to 6 ed and go as high as 8 in the last couple weeks.
Other supps include:
Slim Xtrreme ... decided to give this a try but if it kills my appetite then I will discontue as I don't believe in this method for weight loss. Slight suppression is ok.
Vat Attack ..this stuff is amazing it really does a nice job of narrowing the waste
TD Formestane 100 mg 3 days a week
Eviscerate on chest mostly
AP can't go without this...
Mega dosed Cissus about 10 grams ed
Training will be aimed at chest growth, I have a chest bomb workout that has 2 parts I got from USP
I will be cruising a bit on other body parts as suggested will do slower reps higher reps workouts, concentrating on form rather than heavy weight
What I hope DTHC will do for me is to prevent me from losing power as I am probably going to drop a few pounds. My main goal is to find a supp I can bridge between Prime cycles. If this works well for me then I will look at some of there other products the better they work for me the bigger part they will play in my development.
I am around 236-7 right now hovering between 9-12% bf hard to estimate as I seem to have some loose skin... I'm an old fugger. I stand about 5'11". My arms are about 18.5 inches.
Here's that chest workout if anybody's interested ..
A. 15 degree Decline Bench Press 5 x 5 – 3-2-1 tempo
B. DB Chest Bomb 2 x 8 (each set) – 3-1-1 tempo on each
This mass monster consists of a triple drop-set of chest presses. Start at a 30 degree incline. Perform a set with above parameters. Then, drop the incline to 15 degree incline. Perform another set. Lastly, drop the bench to flat and perform your third and last set of the Chest Bomb!
C1. Cable 1 1/3rd flyes 4 x 12 – 4-2-2 tempo
1 and 1/3 reps are as follows. Lower all the way into the stretch position of the fly with arms fully extended. Begin to lift up 1/3 of the way. Then reverse back down into fully stretched position. Now, bring perform a complete fly, bringing your hands together. This is one rep and allows the majority of time under tension to be placed in the position of the exercises where the most muscle building occurs!
C2. Flat DB Squeeze Press 4 x 10 – 3-3-3 tempo
This a regular DB bench press with one twist…Keep the end of the DB’s touching at all times!
A. Bench Press 10 x 3 – 2-1-1 tempo
B. Dips 4 x 6 – 3-2-1 tempo
C1. 15 degree Decline DB Cable Fly 3 x 8 – 4-2-2 tempo
C2. Towel Pushups 3 x 15 – 2-0-x tempo
Simply place a small towel under each hand. Perform on a floor that allows the
towels to easily slide. Start in a regular pushups position and when you push up off the ground, quickly bring your hands together. It’s a pushups and a fly built into one!Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
- 08-15-2009, 06:36 AM
subbed into this - bridging between Prime is a great concept. I think you picked the right product. Look fwd to your progress Old Boy
- 08-15-2009, 07:06 AM
I have a great awareness of how my body responds so I will have the ability to be quite articulate with my findings and reactions.Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
08-15-2009, 07:50 AM
When I saw the thread title, I thought it might be a solo DTHC run.
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08-15-2009, 07:53 AM
08-16-2009, 05:38 AM
Hitt Cardio fasted with AP, BCAA/EAA's plus a couple scoops of xtend 30 minutes followed by 15 minutes moderate.
Some day one impressions of SX ... took 1 pill, was not as strong as I thought but I felt the clean energy, it did not do anything for me performance wise but it did make cardio more pleasant as there was some euphoria. I don't think this is the kind of stim that your going to get a big push in the gym but feeling good is good enough.
There is some very mild appetite suppresson but it does not kill your appetite at all. I ate what I needed to eat at the quantity I needed to eat. I am pleased it did not crush my appetite.
The stim did not last 12 hours more like 6 or 7, I am kind of surprised because I am very sensitive, I did not sleep at all on 1 scoop of jacked am when I first took it. I slept ok last night all be it not as long as I normally would by an hour or two. I did not have trouble going to sleep but did not sleep as long. I am still going to be cautious and take only 1 pill and no jacked for todays workout.
Mind and Muscle Board Representative I am not a physician and any advice is solely based on personal experience with various products
08-17-2009, 11:46 AM
Back to the gym after 10 days off there was rust but I still liked how I felt and what I accomplished.
15 degree decline bench 5X5 3-1-1 tempo
Started 10 lbs down from what I finished with before the break and on the fourth set I only got 4, I could have pushed it but I was being cautious as my shoulder was not feeling right still. When I go back after a break it takes a week to get the shoulder going. I will not risk reinjury...
Chest blast started out 5 lbs down on db's I got 8-7-5 which is not good for the first set so I went down 5 more lbs and still did not make it 8-6-5 this is a tough exercise and I was really feeling off without Prime and the rust of coming off a break but the reps were all done with very good form and my chest was taking a beating .. that's what I was there for.
I did much better on the 1 1/3 cable fly db press supersets I only missed one rep at the end. Chest was bombarded and that is just fine.
Wheel of death was not that good I got 4 and 2 they were very good ones but I was thinking more like 7 and 4.
Was great getting back and I'm all tight and sore.
Day 3 of the SX seems to be coming on a bit stronger than the first two days and I am starting to feel the appetite suppression. I am still eating my alotted amount though. It seems that luclyluciano might be right hunger comes from the early exercise on this supp. I guess it's ok if I get hungry when I work out. Anyway more on that later....
08-18-2009, 09:06 AM
Short back day 5 sets pullups 5 sets Tbar rows .. remember just cruisning other body parts. I felt really strong my last couple of tbar sets... seemed to go better than the first 3...
I have definitely gotten leaner recently and was surprised to see I was still around 236.5 ... good news, I'm holding my weight. I do actually plan on getting down to around 230 just to see how things look.
08-18-2009, 09:22 AM
During your recomp do you go under maintainence on cals or is it just a shift in the macros?
08-18-2009, 02:26 PM
08-18-2009, 06:20 PM
08-19-2009, 07:07 AM
08-20-2009, 09:19 AM
Shoulders and arms
Rear delt flies ss L-lateral raise ss front raise 3 sets of 10-12 3-1-1 tempo
I will be taking some time off overhead lifts too much can be hard on the shoulders
Rope tri extensions tempo 3-2-1 ss tri kickbacks tempo 2-2-1 really held the contractions love this tempo for this with the 2 second hold
Alt db incline curl 3-1-1 tempo ss hammer curls 3-1-1 tempo - this is a good one, simple but effective.
No real updates .. the SX is still going strong. I made the mistake of weighing myself in a decarbed state and was about 5 lbs lighter than a couple days ago. I will weigh in at the propper time next week but if I lose any more than 2 lbs and don't see miracles in the mirror the SX will cease. I seem to be eating enough ... we'll see.
08-20-2009, 09:39 AM
Im hearing good things about SX . . would be nice to see a comparison with ReCreate
08-20-2009, 09:46 AM
08-20-2009, 09:58 AM
08-20-2009, 10:15 AM
08-20-2009, 12:43 PM
hey DW how is your aggression so far I just got a bottle of DTHC the new version and I'm gonna start tomarrow probly
08-20-2009, 02:22 PM
08-20-2009, 02:33 PM
Quite interested in how this goes for you DW... going to start DTHC/Prime/AP sometime next week as long as the chest heals up and am curious how you like it compared to Prime. I am hoping this can be the "younger" guys version of the Asteroid stack since I really didn't see a huge amount of the benefits all of you older guys talk about from PF (then again, I am 27 so things are still working just fine!). Great log, looking forward to following it.
08-20-2009, 02:45 PM
08-20-2009, 03:19 PM
08-21-2009, 06:55 AM
08-21-2009, 07:20 AM
Leg day but not the heavy grinding leg day I would normally have but this kind of training has it's merit ... believe it.
Single leg press 4X10 alternate legs non stop one is resting while the other is pumping tempo 2-1-1 ... tried to do 3-1-1 but is was just too painfull, maybe when I get more acustomed to doing this again.. all I can say is Ouch! The range of motion is incredible with one leg .. not exercise streches the quads like this.
Same thing with leg curls and calves raise...
I have carbed up a bit and I am seeing some positive signs of fat loss. I seem to be maintaning mass as well.
08-21-2009, 07:47 AM
08-21-2009, 08:00 AM
08-21-2009, 08:20 AM
08-21-2009, 08:31 AM
08-21-2009, 09:49 AM
Right now the plan is to introduce DTHC at a lower dose say 3-4 pills a day, then when the Prime runs out after 6 weeks ramp up to full dose. big concern being agression will get to intense with full dose of both and I would like to keep my job, lol! Back to DWs log!
08-23-2009, 06:31 AM
Day 6 rest day higher carbs appetite showed up ok not like I was ravenous but I could eat what I needed to.
Day 7 AM HITT cardio with AP and BCAA"s/EAA's fasted 30 minutes followed by 15 moderate. I was planning a truck up the mountain but the air was horrible outdoors, you could hardly take a breath.
Around dinner time I got very hungry and ate very well even had some low fat cheddar and whole wheat crackers as a snack in the evening. I was pleased to see that I was still hungry when I needed to eat. You need to be able to get refeeds in at the proper time and your body tells you when that is. This is a great tool to prevent muscle loss during dieting. When you body is screaming to be fed you have to listen to it.
I woke up this morning showing more signs of fat loss. I stil have quite a bit of loose skin though so it's hard to tell just how much I lost, again muscle mass still seems to be there when I'm carbed up.
I have slept quite well the last couple nights ..seems that the SX is wearing off a bt sooner.
Oh and I upped my DTHC to 6 ed yesterday so I hope to feel it kick in soon....
08-23-2009, 08:47 AM
08-23-2009, 02:37 PM
08-23-2009, 03:01 PM
- 5'7" 215 lbs.
- Join Date
- Sep 2008
I wanna see if this is good for my old man
08-24-2009, 06:46 AM
Ver 2 of chest bombing
Flat Bench 10 X 3 reps 3-1-1 Tempo dropped 10 lbs as I am still getting back into since my break, I found it was putting too much stess on my shoulder so dropped another 10 and finished the rest of the sets... it was a good decision.
Dips 4X6 3-1-1 tempo these really hurt my shoulder but get better as I go along.
Decline Cable flies 3X8 4-2-2 tempo ss pushups 3X to fail
Finished off with some heavy ab work
I was not getting the weight I wanted but focus was good and reps were performed to near perfect precision. I am not feeling anything from DTHC yet but I just increased the dosage on Saturday. I am hoping for something this week sometime. For Prime it kicks in anywhere from day 8 to 12 and keeps getting stonger for the next few weeks. I am thinking something like that with DTHC... or hoping. I really have a case of the no Prime blues, I could use a little boost.
I still experience a strong reaction to 1 SX ed it does not last as long which is ok, I sleep much better now. The one thing I don't like is it seems to space me out a bit. I feel a little stoned, it's manageable. The other thing is it dries me out a bit so I have to drink more water than normal. This is not unusual but it comes in the form of cotton mouth which is different. I used to get the same thing from yellow jackets the diet pill in the seventies. Those were just pure speed though.
08-24-2009, 02:23 PM
I got the same cotton mouth and stoned feeling from SX and could not sleep... I may not have gave it a long enough time with only 3 days on it but sleep is too valuable to me. What DTHC are you taking, the 120 or 240 kind?
08-24-2009, 02:29 PM
08-24-2009, 03:25 PM
08-25-2009, 08:45 AM
08-25-2009, 08:49 AM
Same as last week 5 sets Pullups and 5 Tbar rows...
No improvement from last week.
Now to the weigh in 233.5 down 3 lbs.. now there is no way that I lost 3 lbs of fat but I may and lost 1.5, I'll give it one more week to see how things go. I don't feel as if I am losing muscle, and that seems to be the consensus.
08-29-2009, 07:44 AM
Sorry for the lack of updates .. things got busy at work.. I even missed one of my cardio sessions, I'll have to make it up
Hitt cardio 30 minutes followed by 15 moderate
Day 11 Shoulders and arms some progress on a tricep kickbacks up 2.5 lbs
Day 12 missed cardio session legs all single leg exercises no real progress but it's a good workout
Day 13 off should have made up my cardio session but I was just so exhausted from working
I am really liking the SX it does make me a bit spacey but then I am really able to focus when I need to. I have seen some more signs of fat loss wthout seeing any loss in mass.
I have not felt the DTHC kick in yet, it's been a busy week and the maintenance type workouts are not a real test. Tommorows chest day will be. I will hit it hard and see what gives.
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