Has anyone ever done a havoc/ 11-oxo stack together? Im going to run a low dose, talking 1 pill of havoc before workouts while taking 3 caps of 11-oxo. My goal is a hardening/cutting cycle. I have read plenty of reviews on bridging the 2 and reading about higher dosages of havoc used. However, this is clearly not a bulk so i am even hesitent on taking 1 havoc daily, after eading everyones 10 pound gains. Yes, my diet, training, rest, and support are on point. Anyone that has done anything even similar to this, I would respect your advice and appraciate any suggestions. Thanx homies.