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    Simmons goes toe to toe with Primordials 1-T TREN (Log)




    Alright guys. This is going to be my second log. I ran the first on the Primordial forums only. This time, I'll be using Primordial's Xtreme Hardcore Muscle Stack.


    LETS GET IT ON!







    BACKGROUND:
    This will be my second cycle utilizing products from Primordial Performance. The first cycle consisted of 1-T and Phyto-Testosterone, and I experienced some great gains. My strength increased noticeably and my weight shot up ~18 pounds. To date I have only lost ~3 of those 18 pounds, and my strength is still decent (for me at least ).
    Prior to the cycle of 1-T and Phyto-Test I had only used very mild hormonal products, including LG Sciences Trifecta Stack (Methyl 1-D, Liquid Masterdrol, Formadrol Extreme), Gaspari Nutritions Halodrol Liquigels and Novadex XT, and MuscleMeds' Arimatest. Obviously these products are of a lesser caliber.


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    Age: 22
    Height: 6' 0"
    Weight: 198-199


    GOALS:
    1) To put on several pounds of lean body mass.
    2) To increase strength.

    I still want to add mass to my frame, so I'm not terribly concerned with a "ripped" look at the moment. I have some DermaTherm that I plan to use to help shed some fat before summer hits.


    I'll be following the guidelines provided by Primordial for this cycle*:
    (with the exception of the extra week of Toco-8)


    *During PCT I will also utilize Get Diesels Diesel Test Hardcore.
    I have some extra Toco-8, so I will begin using it during week 2 rather than week 3.


    Following PCT, I plan on using Diesel Test Hardcore along with Phyto-Testosterone for 4-8 weeks. I also plan on using DermaTherm at some point in this general timeframe (following ample time off, of course ).


    SUPPLEMENTS:
    Anabolic Innovations Cycle Assist: 2 scoops daily
    P-5-P: 200mg daily
    Vitex: 1000mg daily
    Multivitamin
    Creatine
    Beta Alanine
    Protein Powder
    BCAAs
    MHPs Dark Matter (post-workout)
    Glucosamine/Chondroitin
    Liquid vitamin B-12
    I also have a couple pre-workout powders if I need a kick in the arse.


    TRAINING:
    I'll utilize a 3 day ON/1 day OFF regimen, focusing on 2 muscle groups per day. One day will consist of training back and biceps, another will focus on legs and shoulders, and the other will concentrate on chest and triceps.
    I'll be going hard and heavy.

    Cardio will be performed at my discretion.


    DIET:
    I haven't decided exactly how "clean" I want this bulk to be. However, I will be ramping up my calories and ingesting over 300 grams of protein daily. I'll also increase my intake of water to 1.5-2 gallons per day.


    UPDATES:
    I'll give updates a couple times a week. Let me know what you guys would like to hear about.


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    The cycle began Friday, March 27.

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    Alright. I know I'm not nearly as big (or cut) as some of you guys. I mainly shoot for functional strength with my training, so muscular definition and size are secondary. I should easily be in the 1200's (big lifts) by the end of this cycle.
    Also, I'm probably one of the only Marines you'll see with no tattoos.

    BEFORE:

    /\ Not flexing too hard (especially the arms) . I just wanted to give a general view.
    AFTER:


    BEFORE:

    /\ Notice the "pooch" stomach. I'm going to cut after the 1-T Tren cycle.
    AFTER:
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    That's a damn impressive start! In for the transformation!

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    Glad to see you port this over
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    MARCH 31
    DAY 5


    Well, it's day five of the first week. So far my workouts have been decent, but obviously the effects of the 1-T Tren still have to mount. Today was a rest day.
    On a positive note, these past few days have enabled me to concentrate and develop a better understanding of my pre-cycle strength.

    There was one day this week when I applied the 1-T Tren and worked out shortly after, but I sweated quite a bit during the session. My shirt was pretty wet. Hopefully this didn't hinder progress. I know this can increase absorption, I just hope the product didn't rub off on the shirt too much.
    I'd like to note that I seem to sweat a bit more now in the gym.

    The diet is pretty good. My calories are up and my protein intake is still over 300 grams per day.

    I'll give an update on the weight tomorrow or Thursday.

    Strength: (Day 1-4) Decent. Waiting for the effects.
    Sides: Nothing to report.
    Overall feeling: I just started to feel a bit different today. I had a sense of "power" and confidence, if that makes sense.
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    APRIL 1
    DAY 6


    Well I just checked my weight tonight and I'm up to 202.25 pounds. That's a gain of 3-4 pounds in 6 days. Not bad.

    I believe I will post pics at weeks 3 and 6, and after PCT (nice suggestion, Steveo).

    BTW I just started using CLA. I'm going to try and use it continously from now on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    That's a damn impressive start! In for the transformation!
    Thanks, Trauma. I don't have anything on you though

    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Glad to see you port this over
    Thanks. I'm glad to have you guys following.

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    Looks good bro. I'm sure your gonna kill this
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    This is a well put together log. Looking forward to following it!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxGolf View Post
    Looks good bro. I'm sure your gonna kill this
    Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    This is a well put together log. Looking forward to following it!
    Thanks guys.
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    Off to the gym...

    :dl:


    I'll give an overview of the first week when I get back, IF my power is still on. There's a pretty nasty storm heading this way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simmons View Post
    Off to the gym...

    :dl:


    I'll give an overview of the first week when I get back, IF my power is still on. There's a pretty nasty storm heading this way.
    On your way home stop off at Home Depot and pick up a generator I want a review.
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    Well put together, and you arent playing games on the way you are running things. Looking to see how you find sustain working for you on cycle, in regards to suppression and such.

    I read up on your 1-T log and that was awesome, i know you are gonna kill this one. Youve got a good frame, time to pack on those lbs! Good luck Bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxGolf View Post
    On your way home stop off at Home Depot and pick up a generator I want a review.
    Ha! I have a generator hooked up right now and I'm running my computer with it. I better get reps for buying it just so I could post on here.

    No, I was lucky. The power didn't go out.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Well put together, and you arent playing games on the way you are running things. Looking to see how you find sustain working for you on cycle, in regards to suppression and such.

    I read up on your 1-T log and that was awesome, i know you are gonna kill this one. Youve got a good frame, time to pack on those lbs! Good luck Bro.
    Thanks alot! I appreciate the positivity in here. I'll give some updates concerning the effects of the Sustain while on-cycle.
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    Thumbs up WEEK ONE


    APRIL 2
    END OF WEEK 1


    Tonight was a good night. I went to the gym and did some sumo style deads and set a PR on my last set.
    :dl:
    Lol but my lower back is definitely feeling it right now.

    My strength on other leg exercises was up, and my shoulders also felt pretty strong. I think the effects of the 1-T Tren are starting to come into play.

    Once again, I did notice that I was sweating more. Hopefully this won't affect the absorption of the transdermal negatively. I just worry about too much of it rubbing off on my shirt. My upper body was pretty wet and I worked out about 3-3.5 hours after applying the 1-T Tren.

    Strength: UP. I think the 1-T Tren is kicking in!
    Sides: I noticed a bit of lethargy a couple times this week, but nothing today. In fact, I felt energized more than anything.
    I would like to note that I was a bit more touchy with people today. I found myself getting pretty frustrated a few times, but once I thought about it I was able to "check" myself. However, I can be a frustrated individual in general, even when I'm not using anything.
    I also don't have any gyno symptoms to report.
    Overall feeling: I am pleased at this point. I have put on weight and increased my strength in the first seven days of this cycle. I can't wait for the effects to mount. Week 2 should be interesting.
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    Nice man, how many lbs did you go up on that last set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Nice man, how many lbs did you go up on that last set?
    I did 415x5 on my last set (set number 5). Normally I'll just use 405. I felt like I might have been able to do more but my lower back was done at that point. While it was only 10 pounds, I still see at as good progress.

    It was kind of funny though. I know that amount weight isn't anything special when you consider all the people that can lift it (or more), but just about everyone in the gym was staring at me on my last couple sets. But that's probably because I go to a gym where most people don't know what they're doing. I have only seen a handful of people there that actually squat and deadlift.
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    APRIL 3
    DAY 8

    UPDATE:


    I just applied the Sustain Alpha for the first time. I'll be applying Sustain at 3 days ON/ 3 days OFF from now until the end of the fifth week of the cycle. Lol I am covered from head to toe right now. Eleven pumps of cream of will do that.
    I'll also be using Toco-8 from now on.

    I have a fairly busy weekend ahead and I may have to take the day off from lifting. I'll give another update when I get the chance.
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    APRIL 4-5
    DAYS 9 and 10


    A quick update. I did have a very busy weekend. I was unable to workout Friday-Sunday. I also got very little sleep over the course of the weekend. In addition, I didn't have the opportunity to eat as much as usual, but I did manage to get in 300 grams of protein and ~3,000 calories every day. I had to drink alot of the canned RTD protein beverages.
    I also believe I kept up with my supplementation pretty well, even though it was a PITA.

    At one point, I had to wait 35 hours between 1-T Tren applications. Hopefully that doesn't hinder my progress.

    I got some sleep last night and I've been downing food today. Hopefully my batteries have recharged a bit.

    I'm going to hit up the gym in a couple hours, so I'll let you all know how it goes. I'm hoping the days off from lifting will enable me to perform better today (even though I didn't get much sleep )
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    APRIL 6
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    Tonight I worked chest and triceps. I'd say my strength was up, which is an accomplishment when you consider the fact that my weekend could have been detrimental to my progress. I forgot to mention in my last post that I was a bit ill and had a fever over the weekend as well (thank you Marine Corps). It pissed me off because I rarely get sick. But, for my strength to increase after enduring a weekend with little sleep, bad nutrition, and an illness, I'm definitely happy .

    I weighed in at 202.75, which is an increase of ~4.75 pounds thus far. Not bad, but I'm going to say that my weekend probably prevented me from seeing a larger gain.

    Due to my schedule, I've had to apply the transdermal in the evening the past few applications. I'm going to try and work the applications back a couple hours each day and return to the schedule I prefer.
    On a side note, the nightly applications did not prevent me from falling asleep.

    The 1-T Tren is doing it's job though. Hopefully I'll get back into the swing of things after a good nights rest. Tomorrow is back and biceps.
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    Nice progress! It looks like the 1T Tren might be kicking in a little sooner than expected.
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    APRIL 8
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    All I have to say is that I am PUMPED right now! I felt like a damn beast in the gym tonight! My energy and determination were fantastic. My strength was definitely up.

    My legs felt strong tonight. I'm trying to word this so that it makes sense...but, when I was performing squats tonight, I was able to go below parallel with the weight that I was previously only able to go parallel with. I also used more weight than normal in my initial sets, and moved the weight up between sets at greater increments than I am accustomed to. I also moved up on the linear leg press (almost up to 1,000 pounds).

    My shoulders also felt pretty damn good. I did well on the clean and press, and front dumbbell raises. I also pushed through shoulder shrugs like they were nothing.

    I'm starting to notice the effects of the 1-T Tren more and more. My strength is moving up, and my ability to push through those last few difficult reps has increased.

    I am honestly pumped up right now, and I have that "alpha-male" feeling.

    My libido was also pretty high today.

    I also tipped the scales (ha ha) at 204.5 pounds tonight. What does that mean? Well, it means I have put on 6.5 pounds in 13 days. Not too shabby if I do say so myself.
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    Question...Is Vitex and P-5-P the only things you are taking to combat any progesterone sides? Not saying that's bad, I just am trying to gather info for when I run this in the fall.

    Killer results so far!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyler4 View Post
    Question...Is Vitex and P-5-P the only things you are taking to combat any progesterone sides? Not saying that's bad, I just am trying to gather info for when I run this in the fall.

    Killer results so far!
    I think he has some L-Dopa that he's not using , but that would be the 3rd common option.
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    Nice to see this stuff kicking in for you simmons. How is your diet since the weekend?
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    Do you have dostinex on hand incase progestin sides get to bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I think he has some L-Dopa that he's not using , but that would be the 3rd common option.
    Yep. I'm saving it for later, and I plan on using it for the GH/test effects.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Nice to see this stuff kicking in for you simmons. How is your diet since the weekend?
    My diet has been on par. I'm getting a good amount of calories and I never slack on the protein, which is still 300+ grams per day. I haven't gone crazy with carbs this cycle, but I ingest a moderate amount.

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    Do you have dostinex on hand incase progestin sides get to bad?
    I do not. However, there aren't any issues so far.
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    APRIL 9
    END OF WEEK 2

    Today was a rest day, so I didn't get a chance to weigh in at the gym. But, I did take some measurements...

    These are the results:

    Left Bicep: a bit more than +.25 inches, less than +.5 inches
    Right Bicep: +.25 inches
    Chest: +.5 inches
    Left Thigh: +1 inch
    Right Thigh: +1 inch
    Waist: +.25 inches

    On a side note, I have moved my 1-T Tren applications back to the afternoon.

    Strength: My strength is definitely on the rise. I'm beginning to notice this more and more.
    I am able to use more weight and push out more reps with every body part.
    Sides: Nothing to report here. No negative sides. No hair loss or gyno. No serious lethargy. I'm not too touchy, but the aggression is there.
    Libido: My libido is fine as of now. Perhaps the Sustain Alpha is helping?
    Overall feeling: I feel pretty good. I've been getting the alpha male mentality, which I enjoy. I'm feeling stronger in the gym, and my focus and determination are strong.

    So far everything is great. Week 3 here I come!!!
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    That right bicep is just being lazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    That right bicep is just being lazy!
    Actually, the left one really needs to catch up lol
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    Great job with your log, buddy! I'm glad to hear that you're starting to see some good effects. I'm really looking forward to the upcoming weeks.

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    You're up 3/4inch in the neck?! Sheesh!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Great job with your log, buddy! I'm glad to hear that you're starting to see some good effects. I'm really looking forward to the upcoming weeks.
    Thanks man. I'm glad to have 4 weeks to go.

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    You're up 3/4inch in the neck?! Sheesh!
    Yeah lol. That's what I thought, too. I have my fiance take my measurements. She confirmed that she measured everything in the exact same place though, so I dunno.
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    Do your shirts fit tighter around the neck?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Do your shirts fit tighter around the neck?
    Ok, upon closer inspection (MY inspection), it appears as though that was a little off lol. It seems to me that the increase is between .25 and .5 inches, not .75.

    Good call, Irish. I suppose I posted up that measurement without paying closer attention, although common sense should have alerted me sooner.
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    Even still, man. That's a big jump in neck size over two weeks. My neck hasn't budged for years! Haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Even still, man. That's a big jump in neck size over two weeks. My neck hasn't budged for years! Haha.
    Yeah, you're right. Maybe for the sake of maintaining accurate information I'll pull the neck measurement for now. There's no reason to keep that "statistic" up if the consistency of the measuring process is in question. If it did increase, it was probably a very small amount. At least I have a mark to refer to from here on out though.
    Looking back at it, I feel like an idiot for not noticing that earlier.

    I am confident in the other measurements. At least some of my pride is still intact.
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