The One bridged with Dymethazine log
- 03-27-2009, 11:54 AM
First off silver, I am asking you are there any SERM products that are OTC? (im guessing not :'( )
Also I did not really get any bad side effects except for the gyno which I got from the Spawn
Also i just took the time to write everything down and do my calculations and I realized im low on Protein and HIGHHHHHH on calories, and idk wat the suggested amount for carbs is.
I will post up my diet when I get home, I'm on campus right now.
- 03-27-2009, 12:04 PM
03-27-2009, 01:26 PM
03-27-2009, 01:37 PM
03-27-2009, 01:46 PM
Your post history indicates you were under 21 as of December '08. The fact that you've run so much at such a young age is a reason for concern.
Don't run either. Seriously. Take a step back dude.
03-27-2009, 01:49 PM
03-27-2009, 01:51 PM
Here is my diet, I am a full time student.
Note that my 6th meal changes. The meal will range from steak to chicken to a hamburger to whole grain pasta to fish. However it is usually what I have posted.
03-27-2009, 02:17 PM
see attached document
I should not have any problems with that then check my cal intake. Also different people say that I should have 1g or protein per lb and some say 2g. My diet is around 222 giving me about 1.2g per lb (I believe i should step that up). However are my calories too high? And what is your opinion on my carbs?
I believe this may be true. Back in highschool one of my "friends" told me about halodrol-50. I thought he was a good friend and trusted him. Took it gained 10lbs. The End. No PCT no nothing :/ You can pretty much imagine what happened after that. And after doing a cycle of spawn in the summer (gaining the 20) and then PCTing it. My body wouldnt gain a SINGLE lb from sept to jan (4 months) That is why I am guessing my hormones are a lil messed up.
03-27-2009, 02:42 PM
Honestly this is just friendly advice not an attack of any sort, your proposed cycle is a no-no just makes no sense to run both, both are strong an will give great gains on their own hell im up 20 pounds on day 19 of my cycle of the one. Not to mention the stress on your body.
Also touching on something Easy said you've run all those cycles an you still only weigh 180?? Like gator said maybe take a step back and forget about the one an every other ph/ds right now and start looking at getting diet an training down the routine you posted is a joke, Fix those TINY details first.
Listen to these guys their trying to help you out good luck.
03-27-2009, 02:45 PM
lol im guessing i g2 repeat myself again...I WILL ONLY BE TAKING DY I AM GOING TO SAVE THE ONE FOR THE FUTURE PLZ STOP TELLING ME TO "PICK EITHER OR"
but anyways....any suggestions towards my diet?
03-27-2009, 02:52 PM
in general its pretty good, a little dirtier than I like. but only by a hair. the things I noticed are
Little to no healthy fats? even tho pb is low fat, i'm not sure whether they've added hydrogenated oils while taking out the peanut oil.
Also soy milk instead of regular milk? allergies?
03-27-2009, 03:12 PM
And yes I am allergic to casein but the side effects are minor. The effects tend to change from time to time. As of now if i were to have dairy, nothing would happen, as far as i know. The effects usually go around in a circle, but now I do not notice anything??? hmmm ohwell....So i try to stick to soy milk. Plus its high in protein
03-27-2009, 03:29 PM
You don't train legs and you are wondering why you aren't over 200 pounds? hmm... yeah... Maybe since you aren't 21, i'm assuming this considering you still have yet to answer the question of your age, you should hold off on the steroids and get a proper workout. You're missing out on a tremendous amount of total body growth by neglecting squats and deads, like wearedbleedblue suggested.
03-27-2009, 03:36 PM
Doing the math backwards from what you have
4817 cals - 888p =
3929 - 2524 =
1405 cals from fat / 9 = 156g, but I just don't see 156g worth of fat there honestly, but what is there isn't necessarily the best fats at the same time.
So i'd switch the reduced fat skippy for a full fat all natural pb (i tend to recommend Naturally More, its cheap and in most Walmarts) and maybe go back over your numbers as I think something is off.
have you put them into Fitday.com ?
03-27-2009, 05:40 PM
^^^ I agree with these guys. By failing to do legs and exercises such as squats and deadlifts you are failing to utilize your natural gaining potential. Working the full body produces more anabolic hormone than just doing the upper or lower body alone;, as well as recruiting more motor units, and the more motor units recruited per session will have a greater increase in neural activity, which will train your body to work more effectively as a whole (Heyward, 2006). Squats especially are one of the best exercises for gaining muscle mass!Originally Posted by eggplant21
I'm also not sure WHY you would want to be unproportional and have a huge upper body.
03-27-2009, 11:33 PM
lol where did you get that formula haha. But no i used www.thedailyplate.com to find out my stats. I uploaded everything into exel, and used exels program to add up my measurments. So if something is off/wrong it would probably be from the website :/
Anyways, EasyEJL, is the amount of calories, protein, and carbs im taking at the right number for me to see gains when on the PHs, considering I DO NOT see any from this diet for the past several months.
03-27-2009, 11:38 PM
M/W/F: upper body
T/Th: lower body
Also, we all know when yo first work out a body part in a long time that the following day they hurt. At my job i stand for 6hrs :/ I do not see this happening with my legs hurting.
03-28-2009, 03:18 AM
However, this is what I recommend you do:
Monday - Lower Body/Abs
Tuesday - Upper Body
Thursday - Lower Body/Abs
Friday - Upper Body
You should be focussing on the mulitjoint, compound movements (i.e. powercleans, squat, deadlift, bent over row, pull-ups, bench press, military press, dips, calf raises (only isolation exercise I would recommend), etc.) to get the most out of your sessions (your bicep, triceps, lateral delts, and rear delts get used in those exercises, which is why there is no need for isolation exercises).
Yes, when you train something that you don't normally train or have had a break from, after the first few sessions you WILL feel DOMS. However, you can EASE into the sessions (i.e. with lower body you don't have to go straight into lifting; do a few light warm-ups sets first, and then build up with your weights).
STANDING for however long, regardless of sore legs, should not be an issue. You're NOT moving. It's not like you're spending 10-12+ hours standing/walking/running on TOP of your training! Despite that, your body adapts, and DOMS becomes less or disappears after a while.
03-28-2009, 04:02 AM
03-28-2009, 12:25 PM
03-28-2009, 01:39 PM
Guys he still hasn't told his age which from his pics let me guess he is max 19 or 20 he listen to some advice but at his age like many of us when we were there he has an idea of running ph and he will do so to me you are all wasting your time. Sorry but after seing minimum 5 post about requesting his age and they all got ignore that's what I think.
03-28-2009, 01:57 PM
yeah avoiding the age is a red flag....
But man..Running everything you have....You may be looking to a very bleak future, health wise, test production wise, happiness wise. I wouldnt touch another prohormone or steroids again man. And then you better be praying. Imagine by the time your 25 you cant get a woody, period. And no lil pill will help you. Your depressed 24/7, moody. No energy.
All for the sake of muscle? If you think you turn the ladies on now, you will be turning them off in the future. Or you may just be on TRT for life.
Even if you are 22 maybe, or over 21, not making any gains like you said from some of those cycles had to be because you didnt do something right. I am a "hardgainer" as well....
03-28-2009, 02:17 PM
man, i think it's great your trying to get some help on this situation. I agree with everyone else, that you need to start training your legs and stop basing all your gains on the next hormone your going to run. If you got your diet in check completely and started training those legs I would almost guarantee that you would probably put on 10-15 pounds without any hormones. Perhaps sticking to the basics would be better served as you body sounds like it might need some time to get back to normal. In the end it's your decision, but don't stay away from leg training cause it's hard work.
03-28-2009, 07:26 PM
03-28-2009, 11:43 PM
thank you EasyEJL, but to everyone else, can you stop bothering me about the PHs. Im not really asking about that anymore lol
to Easy, thanx for helping me with my diet.
to Guejsn, thanx for the suggestion for a workout. Im going to give that a try.
But does anyone have suggestions on how I could make my upperbody workout shorter? 3-4 hours in my opinion is TOO LONG in the gym.
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