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  1. I just wanted to elaborate on why I never use all that much protein. I have experimented with daily dosages as much as 400g/day and when I compared the muscle i gained when while taking 150-200g/day it wasnt overtly noticable. I made these comparisons both while running a 5X5 routine over the course of several months. I always thought if you bought a high quality protein with high absorbtion rates and took at most anabolic times it would be sufficient to dose lower than standard on protein. I realize that when taking a PH/PS protein synthesis is increased but I fall back on my original point. I will for the sake of the log increase my protein intake to 250-300g/day. I know alot of people are mostly against this position as there was a thread about this very topic not to long ago, but like I said it is what has worked for me.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by bigironkiller View Post
    I just wanted to elaborate on why I never use all that much protein. I have experimented with daily dosages as much as 400g/day and when I compared the muscle i gained when while taking 150-200g/day it wasnt overtly noticable. I made these comparisons both while running a 5X5 routine over the course of several months. I always thought if you bought a high quality protein with high absorbtion rates and took at most anabolic times it would be sufficient to dose lower than standard on protein. I realize that when taking a PH/PS protein synthesis is increased but I fall back on my original point. I will for the sake of the log increase my protein intake to 250-300g/day. I know alot of people are mostly against this position as there was a thread about this very topic not to long ago, but like I said it is what has worked for me.

    I know what you mean. I do what works for me, ive done a little expirementing and the only thing i noticed was that i was on the [email protected] more. So i think i was just wasting it. It depends on the day and what muscle im lifting for me to determine how much protein. i try to keep it about the same but that usually dosent happen.
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  3. Well, you know what works. I still believe in eating as much protien as possible
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe

  4. subbed!

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by thaOrleanyte View Post
    Well, you know what works. I still believe in eating as much protien as possible
    I fully understand as this is most people position, "more is always better". I just try and look at the quality of the protein and decided. If I was taking some ****ty protein I would definatley up the amount, but with the high grade stuff available to each his own.....

    The liquidrone is giving me a very good sense of well being. I am confident and have that slight edge in my step. My diet today was ok, only got in 4 good meals, but they were all healthy and did my 60min cardio. Todays macros were approximately 250g protein(200 from shakes 50 from chicken), 25g fat(olive oil mixed in with protein shakes) and 300g carbs(spagetti and oatmeal). I am not sore today as I was expecting, not even in my legs which were worked hard. I was taking 1-carboxy before the liquidrone and it also helped with recovery, so now I believe it is the liquidrone that speeds recovery. Maybe one day I could run both, Tomorrows workout is mostly deads and squats and I am already salavating to kill some reps out.
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  6. your workout look awesome very complete! If diet is in check your gonna get huge.lol

  7. Well today I wish I had been shot in the testicles, at least I would have some pretty nurses to take care of me. In case you couldnt tell todays workout was a bitch. Here is what I did:

    deads: 225 6X6
    Inc Bench: 185 4X6
    dips: 5X5
    box deads: 225 6X6
    narrow squats: 135 6X5
    30min cardio

    My balls were definatley handed to me today....

    The liquidrone is giving me a great sense of confidence and a feeling i can do anything, that agressive bounce in your step. It is a very easy product to take and I dont understand why more companies havent brought products like this out. I must give AMS props for their cutting edge thinking and bring this type of product back to the market.

    Will post diet later but I will say when I got home I downed 150g protein

  8. Quote Originally Posted by bigironkiller View Post
    Well today I wish I had been shot in the testicles, at least I would have some pretty nurses to take care of me. In case you couldnt tell todays workout was a bitch. Here is what I did:

    deads: 225 6X6
    Inc Bench: 185 4X6
    dips: 5X5
    box deads: 225 6X6
    narrow squats: 135 6X5
    30min cardio

    My balls were definatley handed to me today....

    The liquidrone is giving me a great sense of confidence and a feeling i can do anything, that agressive bounce in your step. It is a very easy product to take and I dont understand why more companies havent brought products like this out. I must give AMS props for their cutting edge thinking and bring this type of product back to the market.

    Will post diet later but I will say when I got home I downed 150g protein
    At least you got em back! lol

    And your throwing alot of weight around in a days workout, youre doing good bud. And i know what you mean about the confidence, i got it too. And maybe instead of taking 150g protein at once, try to spread it out. You might have done that, i dont know. just my 2 cents. Keep it up bud!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by testiesac View Post
    At least you got em back! lol

    And your throwing alot of weight around in a days workout, youre doing good bud. And i know what you mean about the confidence, i got it too. And maybe instead of taking 150g protein at once, try to spread it out. You might have done that, i dont know. just my 2 cents. Keep it up bud!
    yeah i first threw back 75g then took a nap then another 75g. Felt much better after the nap and was ready to go back to the gym for another beating. dont know what drives us to want all the pain we get from the gym but i never want to lose it......

  10. sorry i didnt get to post my diet macros last night, i got in late. Was at a party and ate a truck load of brisket, chicken and ribs. Yesterday I got 250g protein from shakes and another 100 or so from food. Carbs were really high to as I had a about 200g worth of spaghetti and anothe 200g potatoes. Fat was still constant as I add olive oil to my shakes, so it was 35g. After my last workout I needed to engourge myself in food to try and recover. Im not sore at all today and feel great. I also have been experiencing an interesting side effect. My dreams have been really "aggressive" lately. I mean I am in situations were I am beating the **** out of people too being in situations were I am just a complete jerk to people. These dreams are just random, but I wanted to see if any other loggers were experiencing this......In the gym I feel very focused and I get mad at the weights when I feel I cant go on, this helps me push through the rough spots.

  11. Sorry for the late post it was my wifes birthday today and in her kind heart she even let me hit the gym before the party. Blew through todays workout, I guess it was a light day. Today was filled with barbecue and evrything that goes with it. I got down 315g protein, 300g carbs and 50g olive oil. I am sure the liquidrone has kicked in because of how easy todays workout was and even during hard reps I kept perfect form. Usually when I get hard reps my form breaks alittle but not anymore, the strength just keeps coming. Here what I did today:

    Bench: 135x7, 151x6, 165x5, 178 4x1, 192 3x2, 206 2x2, 178x4, 165x6, 151x8, 135x10
    flies: 40 10x5
    squat: 182 5x1, 219 4x2, 255 3x2, 273 3x5
    good morn: 135 5x5
    no cardio today(suck)

  12. energy: 4/5- very confident and feel I can take on the day
    focus: 5/5- brain is working on overdrive, i am extremly focused
    stamina: 5/5- workouts kill me but I always finish strong
    libido: 5/5- still hard and ready to go at drop of a hat

  13. Good to hear. Keep training hard man.
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  14. Well boys, I must say I made the gym my bitch today, had her totally under control. The weights were light, form was perfect, stamina was never ending and alpha male feeling was on full blast. Liquidrone I will say has fully kicked in and already earned my respect, AMS you developed a great product. Here what I threw down today:

    Squat: 185x5, 225 4x2, 255 3x2, 292 2x5
    Bench: 135x5, 165x4, 192 2x3, 225 2x6
    flies: 45 10x5
    pushups: 10x5
    good morn: 175 5x5
    30min cardio

    Got home took in 80g carbs and 75g protein w/30g olive oil. Will post the rest of the diet for today tonight. Up to know I already have 150g carbs, 150g protein and 50g fats.

  15. Man I love my father-in-law. Every time me and the wife go over there we get a great meal. I myself ate a full plate of mashed potatoes, 2 2" pork steaks and veggies. My diet today was very solid. Lots of soild protein from food today. Todays macros ended up 275g protein, 250g carbs, 25g fat. I am still grinning from todays workout and honestly wish I could workout tomorrow as well, but I will of course stick to Sheiko schedual. Myh dosing schedual has been very consistant and always corresponds to my workouts. I always make sure I am in the 4hr range of the half life when I workout, find I feel best this way.People are already saying I am looking bigger and more defined. I am not even working abs/or arms and they are progressing.

  16. sub a dub dub
    SFW and GFH

  17. You must have a very understanding grrl...mine would let me, i dont love her when i pull things like that, but i only do on cycle so she gets over when we hit the bed room with all the increased test/libido.lol

  18. I was not feeling so hot today, and it was all my fault. I woke up late and wasnt able to get down any breakfast. Then I was at school from 7AM till 345. Then I had to go do some yard work for my mom where I didnt have access to my protein and all I had was soup. Got home at 6 and was feeling fluish, just from lack of diet today I think. I managed to get down 100g protein, 200g carbs, 30g fat. I am not happy about today, but am craving hitting the weights tomorrow. Tomorrow is a light school day so no diet problems should arise.

  19. Hit them hard my man!

  20. Started the day off right today with a big breakfast. Oatmeal, eggs, protein shake, bread. Felt really energetic all day and felt strong, and even stronger after I left the gym. Weights were light, focus was good, strength/stamina was awesome. Heres how it went down:

    rack deads: 225 5x6
    bench: 135 5x1, 165 5x2, 192 4x5
    db flies: 45 10x5
    deads: 225 5x6
    narrow squat: 225 5x6
    30min cardio

    Liquidrone is giving me all the effects of a preworkout supp, recovery formula, and of cousre mass and strength. I had thought I still might need a preworkout supp like the JP8 I was taking, but it turns out i didnt. Everybody I see keeps telling me how good I am looking and big as well, love hearing that.

  21. Awesome feedback bigiron! Thats a serious day in the gym with all those compound movements.
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  22. Thanks Royd, looks like a serious day on paper but it was more like a day in the park. Diet was perfect today. Had a variety of oats, veggies, rice, chicken, pork, protein shakes. Macros were 300g protein, 45g fat, 250g carbs. Well just to update on my weight gain, as of this morning I am up 6lbs coupled with a shrinking stomach......gotta love it.

    Energy: no lethargy, exactly the opposite. I am full of energy all day and especially in the gym. Although when I hit the weights the energy changes into a force of pure strength.
    Strength: strength is up as I can tell by the stamina I have. Sheiko isnt exactly a hurry up and hit heavy weights, it is high volume. The volume isnt affecting me at all and thats how I can tell I am getting stronge.
    Libido: still getting up every morning and any other moment in the day
    Concentration/attitude: ALPHA MALE, all i can say.
    Recovery: I have not been sore a single day since starting Liquidrone. Even an hour after I leave the gym I am ready to go back. I wish I could live in the gym sometimes.....

  23. i agree with you on some things...

    not lethargic at all, still get solid boners...haha..., decent gains in strength, but i am still getting sore.....maybe your not working hard enough ;-)
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe

  24. Quote Originally Posted by thaOrleanyte View Post
    i agree with you on some things...

    not lethargic at all, still get solid boners...haha..., decent gains in strength, but i am still getting sore.....maybe your not working hard enough ;-)
    Thats what im thinking.... jk. Youre doin great bud, and throwin up some major weight every workout. You said you gained 6lbs? i dont think i have gained any but a lb or 2. but im eating a lil different.

  25. ive gained 1 or 2 lbs. But im trying to recomp.
    Strong people are harder to kill than weak people, and more useful in general. -Rippetoe
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