My Epidrol Pulse Log.

[Graglor]

Finally starting this up after a long time gathering info. This is my first run with Prohormones, Steroids, DS, what ever you like to call it, so I figured Dr.D's Pulse Method would be a great place to start.

Start date: February 17th.
Weight: 182@17%bf.
Three days a week:
Day 1. Chest, shoulders, and triceps.
Day 2. Rest.
Day 3. Back and Biceps.
Day 4. Rest.
Day 5. Legs.
Day 6. Rest
Day 7. Rest.

Diet percentages: 40/30/30. Protein, Carbs, Fat.
Calories: 3000/day. Very clean.
Water: At least six liters a day.

Starting at 20mg pre-work out of Epidrol. Will go from there.

Other supps:
DHEA.......................... ED.
TEST BOOST................ED.
BCAA.......................... ED.
EFA'S......................... .ED.
CREATINE MONO...........ED.
MULTI......................... ED.
ZMA........................... .ED.
CO-Q10......................ED.
6OXO.......................... OFF DAYS.
NAC........................... .OFF DAYS.
MILK THISTLE...............OFF DAYS.
Also have some long r3-igf kicking around and will be dosing 40mcg PWO.

Will log all the common things hopefully every day.

[Graglor]

Obviously not much to report for today. Work out was good as per usual. Probably just placebo effect or just happy to be getting this started, but was really focused and wanting to push that little more at the end.

Mood and everything else is the same same same.

[LilPsychotic]

Yeah, my first run with epi was a pulse. The gains were good, all in all, it was a good run except for the androgenic sides. I started dosing 50mg towards the end, which I would not recommend. It shut me down as much as a real cycle, and also gave me most of the other sides as well. If I do it again, I think I will keep the doseage low. I got too greedy towards the end, and didn't get much benefit. I had great recovery during the cycle, and gained about 6 pounds in four weeks. Strength went way up. I went from 275 for 8 to 315 for 10 on squats. Also bench and deads went up considerably. Good luck with the cycle, it seems pretty well put together. I think that epi is a great pulsing steroid. You may want to have a serm on hand just in case. I got some reboud gyno about two months after, that cleared up with a subsequent cycle of nolva.

[SoCalSMP]

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[Graglor]

Yeah, my first run with epi was a pulse. The gains were good, all in all, it was a good run except for the androgenic sides. I started dosing 50mg towards the end, which I would not recommend. It shut me down as much as a real cycle, and also gave me most of the other sides as well. If I do it again, I think I will keep the doseage low. I got too greedy towards the end, and didn't get much benefit. I had great recovery during the cycle, and gained about 6 pounds in four weeks. Strength went way up. I went from 275 for 8 to 315 for 10 on squats. Also bench and deads went up considerably. Good luck with the cycle, it seems pretty well put together. I think that epi is a great pulsing steroid. You may want to have a serm on hand just in case. I got some reboud gyno about two months after, that cleared up with a subsequent cycle of nolva.

Thanx for taking a look and dropping the notes.
What androgenic sides did you get?
How long did you run it for? Protocol?

[Graglor]

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Welcome aboard.

[Cfour]

G.L. on ur run Graglor! I'll be watching.

Unrelated stupid question. What does "subbed" mean in a thread?

[Liquid13]

I'm in. Looking to see how well pulse works. I'm on day 9 of reg epi cycle. Also, how long are you running this pulse for?

[LilPsychotic]

Thanx for taking a look and dropping the notes.
What androgenic sides did you get?
How long did you run it for? Protocol?

Some hair loss, acne, ect aggression at the higher doses(which is not really a bad thing), and it wrecked my joints as well. It took 3 months for my shoulder to heal.

I ran it T, Th, Sat, Sun
week 1:10/20/20/40
week 2:40/40/40/40
week 3:40/40/40/40
week 4:50/50/50/50

If I run it again in this fashion, I'll just go up to 30 mg 3x/week. I ran x-lean and 6 oxo on off days, along with half serving of cycle support ed at night.

[LilPsychotic]

You may also want to cut the creatine while on, it may contribute to back and calf pumps.

[Graglor]

G.L. on ur run Graglor! I'll be watching.

Unrelated stupid question. What does "subbed" mean in a thread?

Thanx Cfour.

Subbed means "subscribed" In other words, you'll get an e-mail when new posts get added so you can check it out. I'm still putting together a list of this kind of stuff. I'll let you know when I post it.

[Graglor]

I'm in. Looking to see how well pulse works. I'm on day 9 of reg epi cycle. Also, how long are you running this pulse for?

I'm following your cycle too Liquid, good stuff. I'm going to run it for at least eight weeks. According to the method, no PCT is required.

[Graglor]

Some hair loss, acne, ect aggression at the higher doses(which is not really a bad thing), and it wrecked my joints as well. It took 3 months for my shoulder to heal.

I ran it T, Th, Sat, Sun
week 1:10/20/20/40
week 2:40/40/40/40
week 3:40/40/40/40
week 4:50/50/50/50

If I run it again in this fashion, I'll just go up to 30 mg 3x/week. I ran x-lean and 6 oxo on off days, along with half serving of cycle support ed at night.

Man, you got hit with everything. Dr. D really stresses to have two consecutive days off a week to get you running again. I'm not prone to acne or hair loss, but I have a bit of aggression at the best of times so I'll be watching that close. In my job I deal mostly with the stupid. Wears me down by the end of the week lol.

I don't think I'll go above 30mg, but I'll see.

Another Dr. D recommendation was TO USE creatine while on cycle. I'll try to dig up the link.

[Graglor]

Here's what Hank Vangut wrote about creatine while on cycle. Another very knowledgeable member.


Question: Creatine synthesis, if you increase creatine intake while on AS will it help you get stronger. I had always thought it just added to the amount of water you retain ?


Although creatine does have testosterone-like effects,it doesn't act as a steroid hormone.Instead,it's a mediator of some of the
androgens' anabolic effects.In fact,steroid users get far more out
of their cycles if they take in massive amounts of creatine along
with the drugs.Androgens are among the hormones that can force the entry of creatine into muscle cells.While there's a clear
relationship between muscle strength gains and increases in muscle creatine stores,unfortunately,the relationship is not as obvious when it comes to increases in muscle mass.Animal-based studies have shown that the muscles of untrained rats take up as much creatine as the muscles of trained rats,but the ANABOLIC effects of creatine are only obvious in trained rats.Therefore,training increases the muscles sensitivity to the anabolic actions of creatine.(Although it's not related to this article,the study also demonstrated that the anabolic effects of creatine are DIRECT,and not mediated by waterretention.In fact,in the 1970s American and Russian studies pointed out a DIRECT anabolic effect of creatine on muscle cells.)Testosterone increases the muscles'sensitivity to the anabolic properties of creatine in addition to enhancing the creatine buildup in muscle fibers.It's also obvious that part of the strength gains people experience while on steroids are mediated by an increase in muscle creatine stores.An interesting discovery A/S users have made is that they should dramatically increase their creatine intake during a cycle to boost the potency of the steroids.Thanks to creatine,people can build more muscle mass with fewer drugs.Anecdotal evidence from A/S users points out that it
takes at least 10-15 grams(maintenance)of creatine a day to visibly enhance the the anabolic potency of a steroid stack.There are probably good reasons for the increased creatine requirement when androgen levels are high.As mentioned above,steroids increase the muscle uptake of creatine,and if the muscles are ready to accept more creatine,why not give it to them?I also think that even though steroids enhance creatine synthesis,they may increase creatine degradation as well-so more creatine is used up every day.That could be due to an increase in muscle creatine turnover and also the fact
that an elevated muscle protein synthesis rate will likely consume
creatine at a faster rate.Other reasons for a higher creatine
requirement may be indirect.Because the muscles of drug users are stronger and receive more training,they may waste greater amounts of creatine during training.Once inside the muscle,creatine provides not only an anabolic effect,but also a rapidly mobilized source of fuel.Muscle protein synthesis is a process that wastes great amounts of energy.Anabolism is an ATP-dependent process,which means that it's essential for protein synthesis.If the cellular level of ATP is reduced even a little,IT STOPS ANABOLISM.So even if you can increase the testosterone content of your muscles,nothing will happen if your
ATP level is low.Creatine supports anabolism by providing energy to the muscle...

[SoCalSMP]

Some hair loss, acne, ect aggression at the higher doses(which is not really a bad thing), and it wrecked my joints as well. It took 3 months for my shoulder to heal.

I ran it T, Th, Sat, Sun
week 1:10/20/20/40
week 2:40/40/40/40
week 3:40/40/40/40
week 4:50/50/50/50

If I run it again in this fashion, I'll just go up to 30 mg 3x/week. I ran x-lean and 6 oxo on off days, along with half serving of cycle support ed at night.

From what i've heard with epi, you tend to get sides when dosing above 40.

you did 50, tho pulsing, so that may have greatly contributed to your sides.

[LilPsychotic]

Man, you got hit with everything. Dr. D really stresses to have two consecutive days off a week to get you running again. I'm not prone to acne or hair loss, but I have a bit of aggression at the best of times so I'll be watching that close. In my job I deal mostly with the stupid. Wears me down by the end of the week lol.

I don't think I'll go above 30mg, but I'll see.

Another Dr. D recommendation was TO USE creatine while on cycle. I'll try to dig up the link.

Yeah, just from personal experience I opt to add it in post cycle. I pretty much run some type of creatine for about 8 months out of the year. I don't run it on cycle because it seems to add to back issues that I've experienced with some compounds.

[Graglor]

Yeah, just from personal experience I opt to add it in post cycle. I pretty much run some type of creatine for about 8 months out of the year. I don't run it on cycle because it seems to add to back issues that I've experienced with some compounds.

Actually, I have heard that in some other posts. I'll see how it works out for me. Thanx for the tip.

[LilPsychotic]

Yeah, just try different things to see what works for you.

[Graglor]

Day 3.

Yesterday was rest, eat and support supps.

Today was legs.
Morning weight: 182.5. +.5 lbs. Dam you Liquid13!!!!
Dosed 20mg/Epidrol. Pinned 20mcg r3-igf in each leg POW, then carb shake, then meal.
Again, very focused and motivated.
Strength: Same.
Endurance: Was up a little.
Aggression: None. Mood is good.
Libido: Same/good.
Vascularity: Nothing new.
Appitite: Same. 3000 cals, very clean.

[Liquid13]

Just keep moving those weights and stay motivated. I decided to incorporate creatine when week 3 comes and for the rest of the cycle. Your post got me thinking about it. Lots of people cycle creatine 6-8 weeks, so if I start in week 3 and throughout pct, It'll end up being 6-8 weeks. Have you decided if you're going to stick with creatine through cycle?