Steveo's Get Diesel Christmas (DT2010, Sunami, JP8)
- 12-12-2008, 10:11 AM
Steveo's Get Diesel Christmas (DT2010, Sunami, JP8)
Intro: This will be mainly comparing the Double or Nothing Stack (DoN, sponsored) of DT2010 and Sunami to other test boosters. I will be using Lemonade JP8 because it works best for me, and will be adding in the new and improved Grape JP8 once it is available. Chuck mentioned he might be sending me one to review for you guys, otherwise I'll pick on up in early Jan after the Christmas spending. Dosing will be Chuck's stack directions with Sunami moved up 1 week for more immediate effects. I have a bottle of DTH (Previous version) that I might add in at the end of the stack, but am running DoN solo to assess; Chuck gave this to a few of us that ran unsponsored JP8 logs.
Previous Test Boosters Used: DTH (Several bottles). Only had 1 bad run, but that was because I was tinkering with various creatines and a few other factors), TNT (Which is Trans-Resveratrol, Nettle and T-Force/Fadogia, which I Logged). I also used Coq Diesel and TTE last winter. AppNut's Drive.
Background Info: Been lifting for about 7 years, however there were a few years where I trained for endurance and lost a fair bit of muscle mass. I'm a pre-med university student, finishing up my exams and will be catching up with friends/crazy busy over Christmas. NP rep (Duh!) with a passion for nutrition.
Stats: 6'0, Age 20, Weight ~173
Training: I really don't know. I have to find a gym to workout at while at home for 2 weeks, depending on how far it is I'll figure out whole body, GVT, or split routine. I do HIIT often, except on Leg Days. On my mini-cut I did circuits with 30-40mins cardio afterwards.
Recent Supps: I've just been doing a 3-week mini pre-Christmas cut with DCP/LR/CLA/Sesamin + Staples. Was going to use Shred Matrix for the cut but it never arrived, it might still be coming just delayed. I also am just finishing off RPN's Gut Health.
Staples include: MultiVit (OrangeTriad atm, usually NOW Adam), Vitamin D (5000 IU's), Vit C,B-12, Fish Oil (3g EPA/DHA combined daily) Beta-Alanine, CreatineMonohydrate, Green Tea & Grapeseed Extract, Corosolic Acid/Some Derivative, Sesamin & CLA, some L-Dopa product pre-bed
Diet: Clean, and I will post pictures. Right now I'm studying, so I've decreased my cals. Depending on my expenditure I vary how much I eat obviously. Massive oatbran/porridge pre and post-WO, rest of day is pretty much veggies, proteins and fats. I always take 1tbsp coconut oil before bed along with some casein/cottage cheese. Also I tend to do alot of bulk cooking because time is short for me. I eat alot of beef stews/chilis, burritos/fajitas, and my monster omelet.
Why I Train: We all have our reasons varying from vanity, taking our body to the limit, because we love the gym etc. I train primarily for health reasons; I have the worst genes you can imagine. Diabetes runs on my mother's side, and everyone on my father's side has high BP, cholesterol, and died prematurely from cardiovascular disease. My cousin at 21 had a debilitating cerebral stroke, which really woke me up to my genetic presdisposition. This is why you may have noticed I advocate solid meals, and avoid high-GI foods if at all possible. Not to be a hypocrite, but on the odd occasion I have taken JP8 w/ WMS & WPI for a workout before class, but that's about it.
Also you may have noticed I've been mentioning a Get Diesel Christmas for a while; I'll be performing my NP duties and informing you of when the DTH and stacks that I worked to get you guys are ready on NP
- 12-12-2008, 10:12 AM
Reserved, will update OP with a bit more info too.
12-12-2008, 10:21 AM
12-12-2008, 04:52 PM
12-12-2008, 05:03 PM
12-12-2008, 05:07 PM
Today was day 2, going to post an update in here after I get in some studying lol.
12-12-2008, 05:13 PM
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12-12-2008, 07:24 PM
12-12-2008, 07:55 PM
Im in bro, you know how much i loved my DON stack.
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12-12-2008, 09:01 PM
Day 1: DT2010 1/1/1
Workout: Still doing circuit with 30 mins cardio.
- going to switch this up in the next few days
- this was the last day of Leviathan Reloaded, and I had to up the water big time to cancel out the huge diuretic effect I get from caffeine
Day 2: DT2010 2/1/1
- Pretty poor workout. Did 4x10 of deads, then went to start a circuit and after doing abs I felt my back saying no, so I stopped. Did 8 sprints, then called it quits.
- No noticeable effect yet. DTH usually took about 5 days to kick in, Coq Diesel + TTE hit me the next day.
I think circuit training has really done a number on my body. I noticed on Tuesday my knuckles were in pain after jogging to physio where I volunteer, but I figured it was just the cold. I think it was a sign my joints are getting a bit worn down though, seeing as how my knees have been sore the last 2 days.
Still not decided about what training style to go back to; I might do GVT training again, but I injured my lower left pec 3 weeks ago and it still didn't feel right this morning. Can't do flat bench (I think it's a stabilizer I messed), but incl. bench is fine. I might just do a regular split; going to hit solely legs tomorrow.
Thanks for stopping by Inarius, Sam, Russian and Josh ; I'll try and keep it spicy with food pics and random articles that I find interesting
Interesting Tidbit: I was listening to my Economist Audio Edition, and I learned that Smarter People have healthier Sperm! The interesting point that was brought up is whether the sperm are healthier because the smarter people just take better care of their bodies; in which case our excellent nutritional habits means we should have some fine sperm specimens
Intelligence predicts sperm quality | Balls and brains | The Economist
12-12-2008, 10:06 PM
I read my nutsack bedtime stories - that's why I have twin childrenInteresting Tidbit: I was listening to my Economist Audio Edition, and I learned that Smarter People have healthier Sperm! The interesting point that was brought up is whether the sperm are healthier because the smarter people just take better care of their bodies; in which case our excellent nutritional habits means we should have some fine sperm specimens
12-12-2008, 10:09 PM
12-13-2008, 06:36 AM
12-13-2008, 03:24 PM
Day 3: DT2010 2/1/1
1a) 10x10 BB Incl Bench
1b) 10x10 Lat Pulldowns
HIIT: 20s Sprint/40s Recovery x 9. (Elliptical)
- no stims, just BA, Creatine & BCAA's. Trying to give my body a bit of time off from stims after the LR. Going to use them after my last exam on Wed.
- Went light on the BB Incl b/c pec still recovery, however made the full 10x10 no problem with no pain
Libido/Mood: Could be a little bit up, but nothing big yet. Tomorrow I'll be adding Sunami into the mix, so I should definitely feel it kicking in. I took a sniff off the Sunami and it has this weird alcoholic side to it; You think I got the spiked batch Not quite a headache, but I can definitely feel the absence of caffeine. Keeping my water high, mostly thru tea b/c it's snowing non-stop here and cold.
I also discovered a protein that displaced UP 2.0 Choc PB from my #1 spot. Allmax's Isoflex Choc PB is just like a Reese's Peanutbutter Cup. Closest thing to perfect; ATW's Choc PB left alot to be desired, so this was a nice surprise.
Tidbit of the day: 60 mins. Cardio affects both Ghrelin (Stimulates appetite) and Peptide YY (Suppresses), whereas 60 min. weights suppresses only ghrelin. It's all good, because you should be eating big anyways
Exercise Suppresses Appetite By Affecting Appetite Hormones
Lol and on a side-note, it seems we did a study up here in Canada, and big scientific words are more scary Medical Terms Worry More People Than Lay Terms, Study Finds
12-14-2008, 12:47 PM
Day 4: DT2010 2/1/1 Sunami: 1/1/0
Front Squats; 4x10
Clean: 4x6 + 3 Presses on last 2 sets
40 mins Cardio
- A bit low energy during this workout again b/c no caffeine, but when doing the cleans I for some reason decided to try presses on the last 2. Just started cleans last month, couldn't manage 125lb presses when I tried 2 weeks ago, so today Clean & Pressing 135 for reps (3 , 2 sets) was a PR and an awesome feeling; standing there with the 2 massive plates in the middle of the gym where nobody every does cleans, let alone + press
- Insane sweating just 10 minutes into my cardio; I think the clean & Presses jacked my energy/metabolism; I also took 2 DCP before my workout. I sweated more today than I did with the LeviReloaded.
- I somehow managed to catch another tiny cold Just a few sneezes here and there, no sore throat but I've got 2 in the past 2 weeks and was fine for over 1.5years before that
- No gym tomorrow/Tues b/c 3 exams in 41 hours worth 75/65/60 % of my courses
Libido/Modd:Update & Edit this tonight
So I'll be low key until Wed. (right about when I think DTH & the GD stacks should be rolling into NP) I think I'm staying until Fri. at my uni to get in some good training.
At the gym today I saw 2 guys doing deadlifts; One guy was doing 8x205 with good form but his partner would straighten up then only do about a 3-inch deadliftx5. I politely asked why he chose to do such a limited ROM, and he said there's no way he could do that weight. I offered to let him use my 135 for some lighter deads but he declined; I really wish he would drop the weight and do it right. It pained me to watch him do this little head nod, that he took to be a deadlift.
Do you guys correct others on their form/suggest exercises? The women seem to take the suggestions/advice very well whereas alot of guys seem to shrug it off. I started doing face-pulls though and now I see somebody doing them almost every time I go in
12-14-2008, 01:06 PM
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12-15-2008, 04:25 AM
12-15-2008, 03:51 PM
I watched a guy do some crazy compound exercise the other day...
he lifted it off the ground, cleaned it, pressed it, brought it down behind his back, squatted it, pressed it, then put it back down.
It looked interesting but he was doing it so fast that it looked like he was going to fall flat on his face
SFW and GFH
12-15-2008, 04:44 PM
12-15-2008, 06:22 PM
12-16-2008, 12:35 PM
Ok I'll edit this post tomorrow once I'm done exams, but since I'm procrastinating and on AM anyways, I'll post up quickly.
There was definitely some aggressiveness, not as much but I think that's what made me do those Presses. However after starting the Sunami, it has really put me in a great mood. In general I'm very optimistic/positive but this has been a feeling of "This is going to be a good day". Just generally more upbeat. DTH comparatively good me more angry/focused which helped me dial in at the gym. I'm going to see how things go tomorrow afternoon in the gym and will report back. My goal is to atleast 3 sets of 4 Clean & Presses , I'll let you know how it goes
Also I've had to keep my water intake very high; the difference between this and when I was running the Leviathan Reloaded is that there's no diuretics in my system so I'm not constantly running to the washroom! Still minor headachiness from tapering off the caffeine (Still getting some from about 6x Green Teas/day + Decaf lol).
12-19-2008, 01:29 PM
Day 5 & 6 (Nov 15th & 16th) were study days (No gym).
Day 7: DosingDT2010 2/1/1 Sunami 1/1/1
Workout: Cleans & 45 mins elliptical
- Done exams! Was running on 5 hours of sleep (Woke up at 5am to study for my 9am exam) so I headed home, had a big bowl of oatbran, then hit the gym around 1.
- Had alot of pent-up energy. Did 3 sets of 8 cleans, then got out 2x3 sets of cleans before grazing my shin so badly I was bleeding.
- Had to leave & get it cleaned up; my gym is picky on the blood stuff
- After this long interruption I just ended up doing a solid 45 minutes cardio
Day 8: Dosing:DT2010 2/1/1 Sunami 1/1/1
Workout: 4 Circuits & 10 minutes cardio
- Went out partying with friends post-exams. I got to sleep by 1, however I was up by 7:30!
- Felt sore all over, clearly not recovered from yesterday. Especially sore if lateral thighs; only did cleans/cardio so I found this surprising; perhaps it was the explosive lower part of the clean
- Body just didn't want to do much, then spent the afternoon driving home!
Day 9 : Dosing: DT2010 2/1/1 Sunami 1/1/1
Snow Day! Getting a dumping here in Toronto, and I still haven't figured out where I'm going to be working out, so today is another recoop day. I did a few burpees & ab work while watching a movie this morning, and will be shoveling lots of snow for some more cardio.
Libido/Energy: I felt a bit of aggression on Day 3, however once I started taking the Sunami is has really changed into more of a "happier" kind of great mood. This is different from DTH solo which tended to get me angry/focused in the gym, however the cleans went very well despite my lack of sleep.
Libido didn't feel that much up at the party the other night, but it's probably due to the stress and everything else. Going out tonight with some friends (weather permitting lol) and I'll update you guys Hopefully I figure out where I'll be training these next 2 weeks.
Edit: After clearing snow for over an hour; I would like to modify today to heavy compounds coupled with moderate cardio in sub-zero conditions with blowing snow & freezing rain. The only upside? Nobody can hear me grunting! Also when I came back in and started warming back up, the solider came up too. It's like Coq Diesel all over lol So it is definitely kicking in.
12-19-2008, 01:36 PM
Oh snap, I'm def gonna be up in this one. Good luck bro, and make Get Diesel proud!!!
The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
12-19-2008, 11:32 PM
12-19-2008, 11:48 PM
Looks good man. Chuck has a good line of products. I'm stoked I tried them out.
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