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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    You usually can only lift about 3/4 the weight with DBs as opposed to the BB weights. The stabilizing necessary with DBs is much greater and needs alot more effort.
    I'm about even on my DB and BB now, but I used to be really DB dominant. Practice is really what helps.

    haha roll them eh? Yeah but that takes to long man :P

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    So if you are benching 240 BB, you can throw up 120 lb DBs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    So if you are benching 240 BB, you can throw up 120 lb DBs?
    Well for a start I'm not bench 240 for reps. If the rep count is even for both, then I'm lifting more or less the same yes. Might be a difference on 2 reps max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    So if you are benching 240 BB, you can throw up 120 lb DBs?

    i dont think the 2 translate whatsoever !
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    It's different for different people.

    I have been able to move the 110's around since my first MMV2 run... that is 220 lbs total. I was stuck at 225 BB for like 3 reps for what seemed like FOREVER. For a while, I thought my DB was gonna pass my bench.

    Then I changed my BB bench grip (and took mdrol) and my BB numbers jumped like 55-60 lbs. I can't wrap my thumbs under the bar anymore. I lose a ton of strength, and my wrists hurt. It seems like it would be less safe to tuck my thumbs back behind the bar, but I feel like I am able to keep my wrists/hands in the correct position to maximize my output. I have seen plenty of other people bench like this, it is where I got the idea. It just makes my arms move in a better range of motion I think, there seems to be less stress on my elbows too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    It's different for different people.

    I have been able to move the 110's around since my first MMV2 run... that is 220 lbs total. I was stuck at 225 BB for like 3 reps for what seemed like FOREVER. For a while, I thought my DB was gonna pass my bench.
    was I there the first time you threw those up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by delsolrob View Post
    was I there the first time you threw those up?
    No, actually I was very much finished with my M1D/MMV2 run by then. I believe I was on my AP/Recreate/Napalm cut for last summer... towards the end of it... so I was pretty light like 182 or something... and probably working out in the 12-15 rep range. I doubt I was pushing the 110's at the time.

    I incline DB pressed the 95's for the first time when you were there. I think we started out on incline.

    The first time I threw up the 110's I was like almost tweaking out from all the anger my first mmv2 run gave me. I think my girlfriend at the time was getting scared of working out with me because I was getting so intense. I was considerably smaller when I did it the first time... I think I got 2 reps and then 2 assisted reps. I remember a trainer at my gym looking at me like she was gonna have an anxiety attack for me. I seriously think she thought I was gonna hurt myself. When I dropped the DBs she breathed this sigh of relief that made me laugh even though i was so amped up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    No, actually I was very much finished with my M1D/MMV2 run by then. I believe I was on my AP/Recreate/Napalm cut for last summer... towards the end of it... so I was pretty light like 182 or something... and probably working out in the 12-15 rep range. I doubt I was pushing the 110's at the time.

    I incline DB pressed the 95's for the first time when you were there. I think we started out on incline.

    The first time I threw up the 110's I was like almost tweaking out from all the anger my first mmv2 run gave me. I think my girlfriend at the time was getting scared of working out with me because I was getting so intense. I was considerably smaller when I did it the first time... I think I got 2 reps and then 2 assisted reps. I remember a trainer at my gym looking at me like she was gonna have an anxiety attack for me. I seriously think she thought I was gonna hurt myself. When I dropped the DBs she breathed this sigh of relief that made me laugh even though i was so amped up.
    Im sorry GMG, this is off topic but I know exactly what your talking about (the sigh/laugh) today I got 275x4 on flat BB and then 265x5 on decline BB, both times I let out a big YUUUUPPPP YEA BBUUUDDAAYYYYY, then just laughed, the pump was amazing both times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    It's different for different people.
    Then I changed my BB bench grip (and took mdrol) and my BB numbers jumped like 55-60 lbs.

    Ive always wrapped my thumbs under the bar
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    So your thumb goes back towards the rest of your fingers right? That's what I am doing at least. I no longer "grip the bar with my thumb going the opposite way of the bar.
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    Subadubdubbed, should be interesting buddy, enjoyed our last log, hopefully this will be just as classy, Russian
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Subadubdubbed, should be interesting buddy, enjoyed our last log, hopefully this will be just as classy, Russian
    Thanks bro, glad you are coming along for this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by russianstar View Post
    Subadubdubbed, should be interesting buddy, enjoyed our last log, hopefully this will be just as classy, Russian

    oh it will! 3 of the cali-RolDEEP crew are logging it! thats poop, GMG and myself!
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    Thumb under the bar has always made me nervous, I think I will always be a 'gripper'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Craigmatthew View Post
    Thumb under the bar has always made me nervous, I think I will always be a 'gripper'.
    Dude, I thought the exact same thing until my press went up like 60 lbs instantly. It is just better for MY body.
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    I was just using the 240 as a reference number. But in general I think most BB numbers out weigh the DB numbers. And G, I can not even lift a BB (bench/military) without my thumbs on the same side as my other fingers. It puts the wrist in a much better position to just push the weight.
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    dude, I couldn't agree more. my BB plateau is gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    dude, I couldn't agree more. my BB plateau is gone.

    how much of your strength gains do you attribute to your grip change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF View Post
    I was just using the 240 as a reference number. But in general I think most BB numbers out weigh the DB numbers. And G, I can not even lift a BB (bench/military) without my thumbs on the same side as my other fingers. It puts the wrist in a much better position to just push the weight.
    Oh yeah, no doubt most individuals that train have higher BB numbers than DB's.. I'm just a rare exception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grila jujitsu View Post
    how much of your strength gains do you attribute to your grip change?
    compared to the Mdrol?

    I am not really sure. Probably nothing in the 1-2 rep range, I can usually muscle ONE out regardless of the grip... but the 8-10 rep range, probably 30-40 lbs very quickly. I mean, granted I was on Mdrol, but it just feels a lot easier to move when I grip it like that.
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    My DB weight isnt close to my bench, I just started back on DB's about 2 months ago.. My last set is 70's for about 4-5..

    I use the 12-10-8-6-4 ratio...I can bench 225 But im not putting up no 110 DBs Someone would have to call 911! Im sure I'll move up, But everyone is right , Like GMG said , I think you said it, about having them handed to you, and with that saves on allot of energy, I expell allot of my energey on that first initial kick up and push..
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    So your thumb goes back towards the rest of your fingers right? That's what I am doing at least. I no longer "grip the bar with my thumb going the opposite way of the bar.
    yuppp...and my wrists are almost flat, in a way, if I put my thumbs all the way around it I feel like my shoulders and tri's due most of the lift
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    Yo Gmoney, so you finally rocked that mdrol run, huh? You love it or what? Sorry I missed the log. 201 is fcukin' HUGE, dude.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Yo Gmoney, so you finally rocked that mdrol run, huh? You love it or what? Sorry I missed the log. 201 is fcukin' HUGE, dude.
    Yep dawgie, I ran 10/20/20. Good to see you are back, I was wondering what happened.

    I liked Mdrol better than epi. A lot better. I'm one of those lucky guys who it doesn't give gyno to (even though I thought it was starting for a while). I didn't think Mdrol was as harsh as epi either.

    My next cycle is gonna be wicked. I have some transdermal 1-T, Hdrol, and Feraguno(oristan-a, furzadrol) ready to rock!
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    i think my AS came today??!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by grila jujitsu View Post
    i think my AS came today??!!
    Nice man!! Lucky bastard!
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    Mine better show up if yours did...
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    false alarm! i got something else in the mail..... i want my AS now!!!!
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    Sooo... On with the log.

    Yesterday was abs and 45 minutes of SSCV. Worked out with the girlfriend... she gets mad because I burn more calories than her, lol... she won't buy into the fact that since I weigh almost twice her weight I burn more calories than her doing the same effort in an exercise. It cracks me up when she tries to race me on a bike or the elyptical. I just keep going slow and steady, and she busts her ass... at the end of 45 minutes I have always burnt the most calories. It burns her up... I get a real kick out of it.

    So today I worked on Back and Biceps. Definately don't feel "on" anymore, but no loss in strength or motivation. I weigh the same, 201. I am really anticipating the AS... I have this really bad tendency to always be needing to try something new... so... I wound up finding some 1-AD... but not 1 androsterone, I found some 1-androstene-3beta-17beta-diol. LOL. I couldn't say no. It will also give me an interesting outlook on how the 1T effects me vs. oral 1AD... I look forward to it.

    So back to the workout I have switched up my back routine to something different, as I feel that I haven't done so in a long enough time. I am going to switch this in every few weeks now just for a change of pace.

    Back
    Hammerstrength Pull downs (pronated grip) - 180x10, 230x10, 270x6 - this movement really hits the upper back well in a spot that pull ups don't seem to for me. It def. isn't going to make me wider, but I am not lacking in the back-width department, but I could stand to be a bit thicker... I liked this one.

    hammerstrength tbar rows - 90x10, 135x10, 135x6
    Close Grip cable rows - 140x10, 170x10, 200x9
    lower lat cable pressdowns - 50x10x 3 sets

    Biceps
    Seated DB curls - 30x10, 40x10, 45x10
    21's - 45lbs, 55lbs, 65lbs
    cable hammer curls (rope grip) - 100x10, 80x10, 80x10

    I am feeling good so far on PCT, no gyno issues, my boys are 100% as far as size goes, I haven't really been moody on the clomid like everyone talks about. I have had one moment where I got pretty upset, but I think that I probably would have been mad regardless. It very easily could have been the DTHC talking too. We'll see how I deal with another week of the clomid. BP is 118/78 .

    So I said I would write out my diet... well here it finally is... I've been dreading typing all this out, but here it goes.

    7:00AM Meal 1 - 6 Eggs, Cereal (bran or oatmeal), bananna/apple. 4 gm fish oil and other supps (no food value at the moment in those) (40gm protein, 60gm carbs 34gm fat)
    10:00AM Meal 2 - Casein Shake, bowl of oatmeal (24gm protein, 30gm carbs)
    12:30PM Meal 3 - Sandwich/turkey/chicken/beef/fish with 1/2 avo (eat it everyday... I have read it is good for your thyroid levels). If sandwich its on wheat bread, if just chicken/fish/beef plain I have it with brown rice. Cheese on sandwich (40gm protein, 40gm carbs, 30gm fat)
    3:30 PM Meal 4 - Preworkout shake (48gm protein, 70gm WMS/carbs)
    4:30 PM Meal 5 - During workout (30gm protein, 40gm carbs)
    6:00 PM Meal 6 - Post workout Shake - (48 gm protein, 70 gm carbs)
    8:00 PM Meal 7 - Steak/Chicken/Fish etc with brown rice or wheat bread. I am not a fan of sweet potatoes... wish I was. I also usually eat a spinach salad with feta cheese (40-60gm protein, 40gm carbs, 15gm fat)
    10:00 PM Meal 8 - Casein Shake and some PB. (24gm protein, 15 gm fat, 8 gm carbs)

    So that makes 294 gm Protein, 358 gm carbs, 94gm fat... my fat content may be higher, I forget how much fat my oatmeal has in it... that also leaves out any glasses of milk I may drink or milk in the cereal... Oh well lol... I am too lazy to go back and figure it back in.

    I hope that is detailed enough for you guys... it is just a basic outline of my general diet. I usually cheat on sundays... my usual cheat food is an In'N'Out burger. If anyone has any suggestions, please go ahead and tell me... trying to learn more about my diet everyday.

    I am tired... I'll write up about my workout and why it works for me, and how you could apply it to yourself tomorrow or Saturday.

    That's it for now... sleepytime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grila jujitsu View Post
    false alarm! i got something else in the mail..... i want my AS now!!!!
    Aww the tension rises.
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    have her set her weight to like 500 lbs, hopefully she doesnt misinterpret how you say it
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    Quote Originally Posted by GMG760 View Post
    Sooo... On with the log.
    Glad to hear it worked out for you so well, and that the pct is coming along so smooth.

    I like the sound of that new cycle you've cooked up. Hdrol and zol is a great combo, I'm thinking the furaz will be even nicer. And the inclusion of 1t sounds mighty tasty. Research that Feraguno before you go into it though. I've read very mixed reviews (I know it's SUPPOSED to be the same compound, but you know how different sources can work). Furazadrol by Axis worked solid for me last time...you just need to rock that compound at 200-300mg, so it gets pricey, but it's worth it. What duration and dosages did you have in mind?

    Personally, I'm kicking around a VERY easygoing cutter. Like, mostly cutting ancillaries, and a light, dry AS. I'm thinking of eating T3/ECA w/ a twice daily Napalm chaser, and putting that up with a winZtrol run at 300mg for 4 weeks. Just to avoid catabolism and sharpen those edges a little. I don't want to gain any weight, really. My body's hit a nice sort of equilibrium, where I've been staying pretty lean with little effort.

    Oh yeah, and I MAY throw in a little Cyclo Tren ...but then it stops being so light. I was thinking I could just do that for 3 of the 4 weeks. Of course, the other option is, from both a physical and financial perspective, I could just go a 4 week oral winny run. Worse for my liver but no risks of gyno, libido loss, etc. Plus, you actually gain some good strength from oral winny. Decisions, decisions...
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    Lol, I love how this is a "light" TG2 run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Lol, I love how this is a "light" TG2 run.
    Hey, after my last light run, any time I'm not consuming 4g of combined compounds a day IS light run. The first day I stopped alternately burping pine cones, tar and something that tasted like aspirin, all with that hint of rice flour and magnesium staerate from the crunchy candy shell, it was like I heard choirs of angels singing, homeboy.

    What I meant was 1-2 maximum compounds, with only moderate strain on my body. If I go winny, well then I'm sticking to the 50mg daily dose, but I'll only rock it for 3 weeks (mainly because I have to double the order to go more, and it's EXPENSIVE, but also being body-conscious). If I go CTren/Zol, it'll be lowest dose CTren. Zol would still be 300mg, because it's like Frank's Red Hot...I put that sh!t on everything.

    I will probably just do 300mg zol though, because T3 and ECA both get your blood pressure up and both the other AS compounds only make that exponentially worst, whereas the zol I know from experience doesn't affect me that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimberLakers View Post
    Lol, I love how this is a "light" TG2 run.
    p.s. wow...two months away and I STILL need to spread some reps before I can give them to you. Fcukin' wack, brosentein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Hey, after my last light run, any time I'm not consuming 4g of combined compounds a day IS light run. The first day I stopped alternately burping pine cones, tar and something that tasted like aspirin, all with that hint of rice flour and magnesium staerate from the crunchy candy shell, it was like I heard choirs of angels singing, homeboy.

    What I meant was 1-2 maximum compounds, with only moderate strain on my body. If I go winny, well then I'm sticking to the 50mg daily dose, but I'll only rock it for 3 weeks (mainly because I have to double the order to go more, and it's EXPENSIVE, but also being body-conscious). If I go CTren/Zol, it'll be lowest dose CTren. Zol would still be 300mg, because it's like Frank's Red Hot...I put that sh!t on everything.

    I will probably just do 300mg zol though, because T3 and ECA both get your blood pressure up and both the other AS compounds only make that exponentially worst, whereas the zol I know from experience doesn't affect me that way.
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    sub'd late, starting an AS log soon myself, great post so far man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThisGuy2 View Post
    Glad to hear it worked out for you so well, and that the pct is coming along so smooth.

    I like the sound of that new cycle you've cooked up. Hdrol and zol is a great combo, I'm thinking the furaz will be even nicer. And the inclusion of 1t sounds mighty tasty. Research that Feraguno before you go into it though. I've read very mixed reviews (I know it's SUPPOSED to be the same compound, but you know how different sources can work). Furazadrol by Axis worked solid for me last time...you just need to rock that compound at 200-300mg, so it gets pricey, but it's worth it. What duration and dosages did you have in mind?

    Personally, I'm kicking around a VERY easygoing cutter. Like, mostly cutting ancillaries, and a light, dry AS. I'm thinking of eating T3/ECA w/ a twice daily Napalm chaser, and putting that up with a winZtrol run at 300mg for 4 weeks. Just to avoid catabolism and sharpen those edges a little. I don't want to gain any weight, really. My body's hit a nice sort of equilibrium, where I've been staying pretty lean with little effort.

    Oh yeah, and I MAY throw in a little Cyclo Tren ...but then it stops being so light. I was thinking I could just do that for 3 of the 4 weeks. Of course, the other option is, from both a physical and financial perspective, I could just go a 4 week oral winny run. Worse for my liver but no risks of gyno, libido loss, etc. Plus, you actually gain some good strength from oral winny. Decisions, decisions...
    I personally have only heard good things about spectra force products. I hear hemaguno is STRONG. Feraguno should be the same thing as Oristan-A, not winztrol... which is Oristan-E. There is NO difference in the effect on the body other than Oristan-A raises good HDL cholesterol, while Oristan-E does not.

    The 1-T, Hdrol, Feraguno is gonna be siiiick... i just ordered two bottles Toremifine too. Stoked to try that stuff out... a bit more expensive, but it is supposed to be super kind to the libido. Anyone know how to dose Torem?

    Any ideas for the PCT of the 1-T, Hdrol, and Feraguno? PM me with them! I was thinking PP's Testosterone Recovery, but I am not sure if the addition of Hdrol is too much for that and would need a light SERM...
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