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    Exclamation Chub’s Epic Bulk with NeoVar Recomped and RPM.


    Welcome to my second log! I’m Dave, or Chub…whichever you prefer!

    I’ll be running two bottles of NeoVar Recomped along with my Big Block of RPM. Hopefully increasing my size and strength along the way. When my two bottles are up I’ll be going straight into 2 bottles of IGF-2 along with another 2 bottles of NeoVar Recomped!

    At the moment I’m around 185lbs, fluctuating quite a bit. I’ll be going more by before and after pictures

    quite sort on time today so i may have missed stuff out. any questions fell free to ask!

    Staple supps are as follows:

    Gut Health
    Poseidon
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    Gut health - will be dosed 1 before bed.

    Poseidon - 3 times a day spaced out.

    NoXidant - 3 caps after workout. On off days first thing in the morning.

    Orange Triad – 6 a day, morning and night with meals.

    Fish oil - 20 caps a day spread out.


    My diet is going to be strict as possible! NO alcohol what so ever! No junk food..we’ll forget about the 14” pizza I had last night and cake.

    The pictures arn't that good but it gives you an idea. i'll get my buddy to take some on monday of my back.

    Anyway i hope you'll all join me, lets get this show on the road!


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    Had a good time in the shower with my new Java bar that came yesterday!

    Done arms today, i'll update later tonight after work.

    Here's a song to get us started

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chub View Post
    Had a good time in the shower with my new Java bar that came yesterday!

    Done arms today, i'll update later tonight after work.

    Here's a song to get us started

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U9cHR8vRgCg


    and... lost prophet reps. I love that band.

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    java bar?
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    and... lost prophet reps. I love that band.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GetDatFool View Post
    java bar?
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/r...jumbo-bar.html

    Do a search and you'll find plenty threads on it Great stuff!
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    So what are you bulking up to?
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    Watching, Dave. I'm pretty sure that you'll love the IGF-2/NeoVar Recomped stack!!!

    A quick note that the NeoVar Reomped/RPM stack will most likely help you LOSE FAT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    subb'd
    Glad to have you along for the ride!

    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    So what are you bulking up to?
    I'm not quite sure. I did set a goal of 200lbs (14.2 stone if your scottish ) a few months back. But if i managed to put on 10lbs of solid muscle between now and march/april i'd be really pleased.
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    Watching, Dave. I'm pretty sure that you'll love the IGF-2/NeoVar Recomped stack!!!

    A quick note that the NeoVar Reomped/RPM stack will most likely help you LOSE FAT.

    If you have any questions along the way feel free to ask me here or via PM.
    Hopefully it'll help me lose a bit of fat. Put on a little chub around the waist.



    I'm going to update tomorrow with friday/sat workouts as i'm quite tired at the moment! just home from work.
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    Alright, what's the training going to be like? High weight, low rep?

    Is there a particular training style you're looking at implementing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Alright, what's the training going to be like? High weight, low rep?

    Is there a particular training style you're looking at implementing?
    At the moment i'm doing high weight low reps apart from deadlifts i'm doing 10x10 at around 155lbs my max deadlift being 250lbs ish.

    I really need to start doin some cardio aswell as lately i've been doing none at all. maybe 3 times a week for 30mins? or would that be too much during a bulk? I've been concentrating more on my diet lately over how i'm training, it could do with an overhall.
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    Well, if you're bulking, cardio would possible hinder some of your weight gain. It could be argued that it could help keep your weight gain cleaner...but it could also be argued that the cardio would break down your lean mass more so than your fat stores.

    If it were me, I'd just stick to cardio on days I wasn't training. 30 minutes HIIT, while sippin on some sort of BCAA/EAA drink to minimize muscle breakdown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SilentBob187 View Post
    Well, if you're bulking, cardio would possible hinder some of your weight gain. It could be argued that it could help keep your weight gain cleaner...but it could also be argued that the cardio would break down your lean mass more so than your fat stores.

    If it were me, I'd just stick to cardio on days I wasn't training. 30 minutes HIIT, while sippin on some sort of BCAA/EAA drink to minimize muscle breakdown.
    alright cool I do a bit of swimming to chill out now and again and usually a row so i'll just carry on with that. I use Purple Wraath during my workouts and on off days, forgot to add that to my supp list.
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    I didn't realise how low i was on WMS What other good sources of carbs could i use? dried fruit maybe?
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    Personally I wouldn't do HIIT cardio, just keep it low intensityXduration to maximize fat gain (incline walking on treadmill), but thats just me. Purple Wraath is the $hit. Good sources of carbs? dried fruit? maybe for a insulin spike, but not solid carbs. I'd say oatmeal, whole wheat bread/pasta and brown rice. Ive heard you can have white rice or white bread post WO to help with the insulin spike you need, but Im not sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    Ive heard you can have white rice or white bread post WO to help with the insulin spike you need, but Im not sure
    Or a baked potato. All are considered high GI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chub View Post
    At the moment i'm doing high weight low reps apart from deadlifts i'm doing 10x10 at around 155lbs my max deadlift being 250lbs ish.
    If you're bulking, higher reps (i.e. 8-15), but still as heavy as you can go within that range, would be best. Or you could try the 10x3 method that Sean swears by (and he's a BIG guy).


    Quote Originally Posted by Chub View Post
    I really need to start doin some cardio aswell as lately i've been doing none at all. maybe 3 times a week for 30mins? or would that be too much during a bulk? I've been concentrating more on my diet lately over how i'm training, it could do with an overhall.
    If you're bulking, then cardio would be detrimental to gains (as mentioned by SilentBob187). You would want to keep it to a minimum: 2 times a week for maybe 20 minutes. AND you would want to be doing it on days when you are NOT resistance training. I personally would do HIIT - 4 min jogging, 8 x 20 sec effort/10 sec easy, 4 min jogging - if bulking; that way you still keep cardiovascular fitness at a relative level and don't compromise gains too much.

    DIET definitely will be the KEY factor in muscle gain (as well as any fat loss); training is SECONDARY to it (but you still need to train to gain).
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    20g of Fish Oil is quite the healthy dose Good luck with the RPM; for me it was hit or miss and the way I do my pre-WO meal/timing, I can't seem to fit it in well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    If you're bulking, higher reps (i.e. 8-15), but still as heavy as you can go within that range, would be best. Or you could try the 10x3 method that Sean swears by (and he's a BIG guy).




    If you're bulking, then cardio would be detrimental to gains (as mentioned by SilentBob187). You would want to keep it to a minimum: 2 times a week for maybe 20 minutes. AND you would want to be doing it on days when you are NOT resistance training. I personally would do HIIT - 4 min jogging, 8 x 20 sec effort/10 sec easy, 4 min jogging - if bulking; that way you still keep cardiovascular fitness at a relative level and don't compromise gains too much.

    DIET definitely will be the KEY factor in muscle gain (as well as any fat loss); training is SECONDARY to it (but you still need to train to gain).

    the choice of cardo is up to you, but I feel you deff should do SOME type of cardio, no more than 20-30 min
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chub View Post
    I didn't realise how low i was on WMS What other good sources of carbs could i use? dried fruit maybe?
    potatos are better. oatmeal is decent, maltodextrin isnt bad if it doesn't give you gas too bad
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    the problem with fruit is how the body tends to use fructose is different slightly, filling liver glycogen preferentially
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    the problem with fruit is how the body tends to use fructose is different slightly, filling liver glycogen preferentially
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    potatos are better. oatmeal is decent, maltodextrin isnt bad if it doesn't give you gas too bad
    true...I had some regualr red-skin potatoes today but Im eating 2-3 cups of oatmeal ED, huummmm, I love oatmeal
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    Thanks for the advice guys

    I know i said i'd update last night with my first two workouts but i just haven't had time to get a detailed update. Work has been messing me around a lot with changing my hours. I'll get them up later tonight after my shift for sure.

    Today and yesterday were days off and i'll be doing chest tomorrow.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    20g of Fish Oil is quite the healthy dose Good luck with the RPM; for me it was hit or miss and the way I do my pre-WO meal/timing, I can't seem to fit it in well.
    Its 20 caps a day, not 20gs. 20caps of the NP bulk fish oils which comes to 3.6g EPA and 2.4g DHA i think it was. I'd like to take 20g a day, i tried the liquid but it just tasted too rough for me lol.
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    Ok so on Friday I done shoulders. The workout was really crap. Felt really drained and kinda dazed. I took my first dose of NeoVar after my workout with my WMS. Rest of the day I felt like crap, second dose of NeoVar in the evening with WMS then a burger 45mins or so later. It went right through me Felt like crap the rest of the evening at work.

    Saturday was arms. Great workout Pump in my arms was ****ing insane. My strength too with close grip bench was just awesome. I thought NeoVar was starting to give me dumps but I’ve been fine ever since my first dose my appetite has went through the roof since I started on NeoVar. I didn’t expect that at all. Is it supposed to do that? Since my arms workout my biceps have been pretty damn sore but rock solid!

    Tomorrow is chest and a day off work, so I’ll be up early to make the most of my day and increased appetite. I’m working a 13hour shift on Wednesday so I’ll need to prepare some food for that too.





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    So today was chest..

    1x 50kg 15 reps
    2x 60kg 12 reps
    1x 60kg 10 reps
    1x 65kg 7 reps

    Incline

    1x 60kg 10 reps
    1x 60kg 6 reps
    1x 55kg 6 reps
    1x 50kg 10 reps

    Flies

    1x 17.5kg 6 reps
    1x 15kg 8 reps
    1x 15kg 12reps


    Was quite shaky during my workout for some reason and before starting. I got about 7 hours of sleep and was knackered when I woke up. Dosed NeoVar in the morning with my oats, blueberries and honey. Also after my workout with some WMS. Was starving by the time I got home.

    Strength felt good but not excellent. Been in a crap mood all day and that seems to affect my lifting a lot I always lift more when I’m in a cheery mood.

    Had a nice pump in my chest and arms. Quite vascular in my forearms, more so in my wrists and palms.

    Motivation is ok, had to drag myself update this though! At the moment I’m only happy while I’m in the gym. Work is really crap, I hate it! Had some guy try to head butt me at the weekend after a colleague asked him to leave. Think he got a shock when I dragged his arse to the door and launched him

    My appetite was crazy high again last night, i can easy sink a 200g steak plus 100g pasta plus veg and a pint of milk and want more 30mins later! Infact i'm away to have some peanut butter now! I might even take a bite out of my Java Bar

    My arms are a lot more solid all day long. Hope my chest goes that way too!

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    will be waiting for those after pics..im thinking of going with neoVar pretty soon
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    ..im thinking of going with neoVar pretty soon
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    So i slept 12 hours last night, missed my last meal of the day which was going to be steak! Only got 4 hours sleep the night before so i was catching up!

    Away to do back today!
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    go lift some heavy weights bud
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    Good work out today. Really pleased with it. Just having some steak and pasta. Update of workout will be posted later on
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    So today was back.

    Done some work on my lats then done Deadlifts.

    2x 50kg (110lbs) 15 reps
    1x 60kg 15 reps

    1x 90kg (198lbs) 3 reps
    4x 100kg (220lbs) 3 reps
    1x 90kg 3 reps
    1x 95kg 3 reps
    1x 90kg 3 reps
    1x 90kg 3 reps
    1x 90kg 3 reps

    Really nice strength today! My max dead lift for one rep is 115kg so I’m pleased with what I done today. Heart was pounding out my chest!

    Thought I was going to be sick in the gym car park after my WMS shake. Managed to hold it down The chalkiness doesn’t go down well with me. I prefer pasta after I take my NeoVar but I didn’t have time as I had some shopping to do (3kg of natty peanut butter )

    My chest quite hard and sore from my Tuesday workout. Really tired and drained at the moment!

    Motivation is good. Can’t wait to get back in the gym again! Fridge is packed with food at the moment. Managed to get the cals in yesterday even though I was working 13hours of the day

    Loving the Java soap! Had a few comments on the way I smell too the last couple days.

    Appetite sky high still! Dumps been normal

    Libido normal

    Normal blue veins again today. Last night they were popping out my wrists

    Anyway, away to pick up my buddy who’s back for Christmas from Iraq
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    Day 8 of NeoVar


    Arms today!

    Managed 70kg on close grip bench, which is a new PR for me pleased with that. Nice smooth strength throughout. Also managed to squeeze out 3 more reps on preacher curl than I’d usually do.

    Pump seemed to come in a lot quicker today. Normally it would take 3 or 4 sets before I’d feel a solid pump in my arms. Today it was first set! Spots on my arms are clearing up real good since I’ve been using the java bar.

    This is just insane! I’ve just eaten 100g pasta, 125g turkey steak and a big pile of spinach. A pint of water and some berries pre workout and I’m still hungry!

    Lower back and legs are pretty smashed today. Upper back a bit sore too from yesterday.

    Had the dentist today. Had two pretty hot chicks poking around in my mouth. I ended up licking one if their fingers by mistake lol. I thought it was pretty funny but managed not to laugh, I don’t think she noticed. Walked straight into some junkie guy who tried to rob my house 3 years ago on the way home from the gym… Felt like smashing my shaker over his head!

    Motivation: THERE

    Appetite: so high I’m in space.

    Libido: high pre workout.

    Normal blue veins popping up again today

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    i'm updating my diet tracker here too daily if you want to have a peak and throw out some suggestions
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    glad to see that everything is working out for you.
    keeping challenging yourself!
    SFW and GFH
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