Nos Ether Fall 08' Logged
- 11-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Nos Ether Fall 08' Logged
Whats in this version?/What is NOS ETHER?
NOS ETHER....FALL 08 version!!!
Who am I?
21 years old
6 yrs lifting
Links to past Nos Ether logs:
New Nos Ether w/cit&cordyceps + R4W - Bodybuilding.com Forums
Gettin Diesel with dth/tribtest/nos ether - Bodybuilding.com Forums
A no BS look at Nos Ether - Bodybuilding.com Forums
In addition to these I also used the original Nos Ether, Ive stuck with it all this time as I havent had strength gains on par with this from any other product short of PH's.
-the smell and taste are more like an herbal tea than previously, as always the taste takes a little getting used to
-couldnt be happier to see the argenine dropped for 3x the CM!
-also glad to see just the kre alk, whether this or purple k pills kre alk has always worked well for me
- 11-08-2008, 09:41 PM
subzero, no product pics or nothing in the set up?
I'll get some pumped pics up tomorrow along with measurements and my first days WO/the WO plan I'll be following during this log (a little diff than in the past logs/much more volume)
Other Products being used during this log (all basics/staples)
-Muscle Milk c&c
-cytogainer as postWO shake
-Animal Omega (EFA's)
-Centrum Multi V&M
Just hit my daily 35 min of cardio, legs will be tonight along with both of my NE doses and my first full update.
In this thing.
The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2
Day 5 rest
All trained DC style, with one to two warmup sets before a til failure working set.
Day 1 arms
Close Grip Bench
1 arm hammer bicep curl
1 plate&2 25'sx3 (poor choice of weight, went too heavy)
25 and 2 10's/sidex8
Finished with Rope Pushdowns and some forearm work
-Too early to have any changes in strength
-felt the BA tingle
-am going to have to get used to the taste
-had an above average pump, nothing mind boggling or uncomfortable.
-2 scoops (1 serving) 1 hr preWO
-2 scoops 15 min postWO
I did have pt from bb make me a badass banner once, that was really cool.
anyway, after the first day so far so good, maybe I'll put up a song of the day every to satisfy your youtube video recommendation.
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Day 2 Legs
Comprised of leg extensions, hammy curls, hammy push down, leg press and machine calf raises I had one of the most focused workouts of my life. For legs and arms, my lagging parts, Ive upped my reps and have focused on squeezing out extra reps. It's safe to say my legs have not felt the intense, deep burn that I have right now in any other leg WO that did not include squats!
2 scoops 1 hr pre
1 scoop 15min post
-My pump in my upper legs actually wasnt too spectacular, my I had a big shake in between my Ether and hitting the gym, and I think the partially full stomach was to contribute for not having much of a pump.
-My calf pump did exceed normal
-no increase in strength to note.
-I'll update my bodyweight every few days, I'm not one to weigh myself daily Day 1 was at 202 though
Looking forward to the log though, I got a tub of ETHER I cant wait to open up myself.
From the looks of it, the sets dont even look rest-paused. What exactly about your workouts are DC?
Thanks for the question though, others were probably thinking the same thing.
Also, my legs are barely sore right now, far less than usual and I've had squats out of the mix for about 3 weeks here ever since I f'ed up my lower back trying to deadlift too much.
In retrospect it might actually be much more like Dorians HIT that he demobtrated in that dvd with digdale (by far my fav DVD, its pretty much an instructional DVD as Dorian is a guru and somehow dugdale seems to represent the novice) than DC. I have used the exact DC split and even done Xtreme stretching afterwards with great results, but for me my current plan produces the same results.
I wasn't trying to pick on you, just didn't look DC at all to me The extreme [fascia] stretching can still be incorporated in all of the workouts, regardless if they're DC or not. I use it with my Bill Starr 5x5 routine and love it. Hurts more than my workouts lol
I'm taking this whole week off for the same reason. Deadlifted 405 x 2, lower back muscles were sore/tight, and then Squatted heavy 2 days later and they were just shot...so time for some rest
Looking good in here bro.
So I realized training til failure like this I'm going to have to train 2 on 1 off, I'll be hitting Chest and Delts tomorrow. For the off days I'll just do cardio.
DaveGabe, My principle that I follow from DC/HIT is shortening the number of sets in order to have one set of each exercise that counts (working set), with that one set I can rest and keep going to absolute failure, or do an Dorian style drop set til failure. A typical split would see 4 movements at 4 sets of 8 per example while mine would instead have a few warmup sets per movement(and usually only one after Im good and warmed up) and one last set that could be any number going til failure (but aiming for 12+).
The way I think of it why would I play a bunch of basketball at mediocre intensity just to say I did it, when I could instead rest more and play harder and get better. (got into lifting through sports, but the point of HIT and DC is precisely that)
The end result has been shortening my workout time, more next day soreness (means the muscles must be training harder), more in gym intensity, and a really satisfying feeling that I take my mind to a new level, in a typical routine I dont get the mental connection with my muscles and whole being. I cannot describe how much I love just putting my all into only 4 working sets total in a 40 minute period.
IMO the DC split and following the exact motions laid out is great, Ive trained DC, did the stretching, the whole bit. BUT I feel that I get just as good results from this type of training that takes the base of a traditional routines with a high intensity twist. (I was able to add over ten lbs naturally this yr and I'm a former PH user so thats not easy).
You'll surely enjoy the ETHER, but dread taking the doses. I feel the GD line already sells pretty well, I couldnt imagine how well it would be if this tasted as good as say size-on or sp250.
Sounds like you really enjoy your setup right now, that's awesome. Although 15lbs a year, I did that in the last 3 months Dante has put on 50lbs in a year on people lol
Anyways, seems like you're doing well, and I agree that if ETHER had a little better flavor it'd really sell like hotcakes.
Not to beat a deadhorse, but I still don't see how having one set to failure makes your routine anything like DC training [they do 3 sets to failure in the RP set] Higher intensity and less frequency could be similar though, most definitely.
Also, the extreme stretching should really be a part of any routine...I'm not sure why people think you can only do it with DC Helps with soreness and muscle growth, everyone should be doing it.
How many blasts did you try with DC?
Smart move, training 2 on 1 off. That's a great example of how to listen to your body, I think the progress/results will be better because of it.
I really would like to be down to about 220lbs, I dont like being hungry all day.
Back about 8-10 months ago me and my training partner, before he moved to LA, read up on intense muscle and followed the routine for about a month. For me the workouts are too much, I like what Ive done here just slightly tweaking a traditional hypertrophy routine.
I think I'll go to 220-230 and see how I feel/look at that weight. I'm about 6' so I could probably fit 240-250 on the frame, just not sure if that's what I want lol
Hopefully in another year or so after I'm done with 5x5, I'll be DC ready
Day 4 Chest and Shoulders
Let me just say damn, what a workout.
My working sets were as follows:
-flat bench: 275x6
-db side laterals-40'sx9 (goal will be 12 for next week)
-Pec Dec Fly-stack (250x5 and then many partials)
-I was using the past Ether before this, and hadnt handled those 100s for overhead in some time (if ever, I know I usually stop at 90's, but cant remember if I had hit the hundo's before on overhead)
-Taste is getting to be more tolerable, I mix in as little water as possible, roughly 4-5oz water, mix into a semi thick drink and chug
-Pump has only been slightly better than normal, not yet the full pumps I expect from Ether
-definitely more BA tingles from this than the past version which is good
-today tested strength, i go lighter on back day, which will test endurance.
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Day 5 BackWO
4x8 superset underhand pull up 4x8
220x3 drop 210x5
Hammer Strength Row Single Armed
3&25 for a few short sets
-Pretty basic back day, the pump was far superior to a usual back day, even compared to when I deadlift (tweaked back a few weeks, need to hit the chiropractor before I hit any deads)
-went up ten pounds on my lat pulls
-really sucks having my low back strained so that i cant hit dorian rows or DL's, but over thxgiving break I'm getting my back adjusted/re-allined, whatever they call it.
-forgot to mention my legs ended up fairly sore yesterday, and were then my right quad was very sore for part of the day when I was in class earlier.
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So I tried it in 14oz v8fusion blueberry pomegranate flavor.
It didnt improve the taste much and upset my stomach for about 20 minutes.
I'll get last nights WO (arms) and tonights update after legs tonight.
End of Week One Update
-Last night I trained arms, legs were tonight.
-pump on arms was one of the best in recent memory
-bodyweight was 203 tonight
-no recomp affect to note
-strength gains already seen on barbell bicep curls and on shoulder presses, but I'll expect the most strength from the nos ether in weeks 3&4
-leg WO was modest again (pretty much all isolations) due to my lower back being all F'ed
-the last 3 days Ive been stretching daily with my roomate, I wanna be able to do the splits and hit that splits twisting double bicep whenever I get my life in order enough to compete in npc
-mixed it with 1 glass of v8 fusion and didnt like it, I prefer dosing this by using as little water as possible and chugging it down
-not sure if I can truly feel the mind right blend, nor was I before I started this bottle as I came strait from the last version to this one (why I didnt reverse load)
Day 9, Pecs and Delts
DB Shoulder Press
-4 sets, 2 of 16 and 2 of 12 pyramiding up in weight
-recovery is tremendous
-my stomach gets upset with this version far more than the previous versions, a general feeling of naseua that lasts about 20 minutes and starts roughly 5 min after dosing
-pumps are above average, but as a whole havent lived up to past ETHER versions
-strength seems to be climbing, but no skyrocket PR's (although those rarely happend after yrs of training)
Sorry I havent updated in a few days, I was finishing up some stuff for school, anyway, now I'm on break, expect a detailed update tonight after I lift!
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