Nos Ether Fall 08' Logged
11-12-2008 05:09 PM
Yea I agree the rest time will benefit me.
Originally Posted by DaveGabe24
Back about 8-10 months ago me and my training partner, before he moved to LA, read up on intense muscle and followed the routine for about a month. For me the workouts are too much, I like what Ive done here just slightly tweaking a traditional hypertrophy routine.
11-12-2008 11:27 PM
Yea true, everyone has their own goals, etc.
Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel
I think I'll go to 220-230 and see how I feel/look at that weight. I'm about 6' so I could probably fit 240-250 on the frame, just not sure if that's what I want lol
Yeah, it's a really tough style of training. Part of the reason that I don't do it myself, I just don't feel my body [CNS mainly] is ready for that type of training. It works great, but mainly for those who have exhausted all other options and are ready for it.
Originally Posted by LatSpread
Hopefully in another year or so after I'm done with 5x5, I'll be DC ready
11-13-2008 12:45 AM
Day 4 Chest and Shoulders
Let me just say damn, what a workout.
My working sets were as follows:
-flat bench: 275x6
-db side laterals-40'sx9 (goal will be 12 for next week)
-Pec Dec Fly-stack (250x5 and then many partials)
-I was using the past Ether before this, and hadnt handled those 100s for overhead in some time (if ever, I know I usually stop at 90's, but cant remember if I had hit the hundo's before on overhead)
-Taste is getting to be more tolerable, I mix in as little water as possible, roughly 4-5oz water, mix into a semi thick drink and chug
-Pump has only been slightly better than normal, not yet the full pumps I expect from Ether
-definitely more BA tingles from this than the past version which is good
-today tested strength, i go lighter on back day, which will test endurance.
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11-13-2008 11:38 PM
Day 5 BackWO
4x8 superset underhand pull up 4x8
220x3 drop 210x5
Hammer Strength Row Single Armed
3&25 for a few short sets
-Pretty basic back day, the pump was far superior to a usual back day, even compared to when I deadlift (tweaked back a few weeks, need to hit the chiropractor before I hit any deads)
-went up ten pounds on my lat pulls
-really sucks having my low back strained so that i cant hit dorian rows or DL's, but over thxgiving break I'm getting my back adjusted/re-allined, whatever they call it.
-forgot to mention my legs ended up fairly sore yesterday, and were then my right quad was very sore for part of the day when I was in class earlier.
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11-15-2008 04:41 PM
Are you Diesel?
skip that. Thats like drinking concrete mix. Id rather just mix it with 4oz of V8 fusion juice, or drink it reg. in cold water. To me it just taste sour.
Originally Posted by LatSpread
11-15-2008 08:07 PM
im gunna get v8 fusion tonight at wal mart and let you know how that goes, that may be my new way of dosing Ether.
Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel
11-16-2008 06:45 PM
So I tried it in 14oz v8fusion blueberry pomegranate flavor.
It didnt improve the taste much and upset my stomach for about 20 minutes.
I'll get last nights WO (arms) and tonights update after legs tonight.
11-16-2008 09:51 PM
End of Week One Update
-Last night I trained arms, legs were tonight.
-pump on arms was one of the best in recent memory
-bodyweight was 203 tonight
-no recomp affect to note
-strength gains already seen on barbell bicep curls and on shoulder presses, but I'll expect the most strength from the nos ether in weeks 3&4
-leg WO was modest again (pretty much all isolations) due to my lower back being all F'ed
-the last 3 days Ive been stretching daily with my roomate, I wanna be able to do the splits and hit that splits twisting double bicep whenever I get my life in order enough to compete in npc
-mixed it with 1 glass of v8 fusion and didnt like it, I prefer dosing this by using as little water as possible and chugging it down
-not sure if I can truly feel the mind right blend, nor was I before I started this bottle as I came strait from the last version to this one (why I didnt reverse load)
11-19-2008 02:30 AM
Day 9, Pecs and Delts
DB Shoulder Press
-4 sets, 2 of 16 and 2 of 12 pyramiding up in weight
-recovery is tremendous
-my stomach gets upset with this version far more than the previous versions, a general feeling of naseua that lasts about 20 minutes and starts roughly 5 min after dosing
-pumps are above average, but as a whole havent lived up to past ETHER versions
-strength seems to be climbing, but no skyrocket PR's (although those rarely happend after yrs of training)
11-21-2008 04:34 PM
Sorry I havent updated in a few days, I was finishing up some stuff for school, anyway, now I'm on break, expect a detailed update tonight after I lift!
11-21-2008 11:45 PM
BackWO update (Day 11)
-Felt very focused for how tired I was going into it
-Got a plate and 3 25's/side for 8 on bent smith machine rows (underhand) which is a new PR
-forearm pump was damn near unbearable (had to stop my partial deads early cus of it)
-Did partial deads (from knee hight), my back is feeling better after getting adjusted
-The powder still leaves me feeling like I might puke for a good 20min afterwards, and the herbal tea aroma does not go well with the sour "lemon" taste
-At this point I do not prefer this to past version of NOS ETHER
11-22-2008 03:48 PM
Workouts look pretty good man, keep it up.
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11-22-2008 04:03 PM
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
I get the same discomfort from JP8, Chuck suggested it might be the phosphates. I haven't tried Ether to compare, but I would probably get the same stomach issues; I found taking in straight in powder form, then washing it down with water worked best. Mixing would just make it worse for me.
11-23-2008 10:14 PM
Just thought I'd mention the past two days I've went on fairly challeneging 2 hr+ hikes and did not have the water weight, weighed down feeling that I get when performing tough cardio while on creatine monohydrate.
I also played about an hour of pickup games last night, and my legs were good to go again on my hike today, so in that respect recovery has been great.
The real test will be training legs tomorrow after two days of tough cardio.
11-25-2008 06:17 PM
Updates from this weeks arms day and legs day
well I dont really see the need to keep typing out every lift, for those following along, let me know if you want me to go back to that or just keep up with the notes every few days as Ive been doing the last week.
-For arms yesterday I hit a PR on barbell curls, got 155 for 5 and I never go over 135 I'm pretty damn excited about this as Im trying to bring my arms up
-No PR's on legs, but I was actually impressed I was able to keep the same numbers after being fried from all the hiking over the weekend
-pumps dont seem to be as good as the versions with arginine, but the recovery and endurance aspects really shines with this version
-For some reason the upset stomach seems more prevalent in the preWO dose than the postWO dose.
11-25-2008 06:19 PM
NutraPlanet NinjaMonkey Rep
Just commenting on how the workout went, and PR's/comparison is plenty. Sometimes I wonder how much to include as well.
11-25-2008 08:51 PM
cool, thx for the feedback
Originally Posted by Steveoph
11-28-2008 09:59 PM
Day 20 chest and delts
-Incline benched 275 for 3 and a half reps (4 with help)
-actually felt like I was gaining energy throughout the lift
-handles the hundos for db press again!
-db side laterals are going up in reps, for example when I used to get 12 reps with the 30s then the 35s today i got 17 with the 30s and 14 with 35's
-Ive only got 3-5 days left on this judging by how much powder is left.
-I'm looking forward to switching my training routine to Hany Rambods FST-7 program after the log!
11-30-2008 09:01 PM
Day 22 best backWO ever
Well today I switched up my routine and had the best back pump I've had in 6+ yrs of training. Following the main idea of Hany rambods FST-7 I did four sets per movement, rather than 7, but allowed only 30 seconds rest between sets. This was unreal, I used moderate weights.
180x4 sets of 8
by the 4th set my rear delts were already crying for help!
Hammer Strength Rows
2plates/sidex4 sets of 8
Behind The Neck Pulldowns
140x4 sets of 8
160x4 sets of 8
135x4 sets of 8 overhand/superset 4 sets of 8 underhand
Tried to hit a few sets of shrugs but was FRIED!
Finished with abdominal work.
-Well I've got about two days of doses left, I didnt wanna switch up the training during the log, but Hany says the training is best for stretching muscle fascia when used with no2, creatine and cell volumizers, so I figured whats better than Nos Ether?!
-This was really what my body needed, my forearms, biceps and entire back had a pump beyond comprehension, not to mention I hate sitting around between sets anyway.
-I cant wait to see if this can bring up my arms and my back thickness, once those are on par with my chest/traps/delts I feel the need to start competing at small local shows as its been a goal of mine for a damn long time.
12-02-2008 01:07 AM
Day 23 Triceps
-Tomorrow will be my last day, so I figured I'd go ahead and keep training the way I started yesterday rather than sticking to the old routine which wasn't producing as much results.
-first off, let me say my back is the most sore its been in recent memory today.
-tomorrow will be my last nos ether workout, I'll train biceps
-note all supersets were done with 30 seconds rest between seach superset, moving from the first movement to the second with no rest
Close Grip Bench superset pushdowns
185 (4x8) and 150 (4x8) respectively
Lee Haneys superset Overhead Cable Extensions
25 (4x8) 150 (4x8)
Machine Tricep Extensions superset dip machine
100 (4x12) and 80 (4x12)
Finished with balancing on dip bars and holding for one min at full extension, resting 30 seconds and another minute with a partial bend (Mike Libratores tip in the new MD)
-Bar none best tricep pump Ive ever had, matched a usual arm day pump on nos ether, and that was without even pumping up my biceps at all
-I've always said Nos Ether is the best stim free atp/creatine product out and I still agree, although I do wish the flavoring and GI distress issues would be resolved (but I dont see either happening) as a result I'll be switching to a capped creatine after this, not sure which one yet. But using a cell volumizer/NO supp while using this type of training has blown my mind in just a few short day
-my back is still pumped from yesterday (not totally, but noticeably fuller than usual!)
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