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    On Monday the 3rd of November, I will begin my 8 week log of USPLabs Prime (two bottles, suggested serving 5 days on, 2 days off). I am not sponsored and I plan to be updating everyday if possible.

    Age: 19
    Exp.: 5 years of hard work, with some setbacks (2 hernias )
    Height: 5'11 or 6', depends on the day I guess
    Weight: 200

    My workouts will be M-F
    M: Shoulders/traps
    T: Legs/calves/abs
    W: Back
    Th: Chest/abs
    Fr: Bis/tris/foreams/calves
    Sat/sun: off with cardio

    I'll be going for 6-8 rep range, 3-5 excercises for each bodypart with 3-4 sets. I'll give my exact routine before/by Monday.

    My diet is going to be as clean of a bulk as I can manage, fairly high carbs, 4000-4500 cals a day, 400 g's of protein.

    As far as goals go, I'm hoping to, like everyone else who's experienced Prime, break some damn PR's, get some nice recomp going on, good vascularity, etc. etc. Basically: get bigger and stronger. It'd be cool to put on 5-10 pounds over these next 8 weeks. Harcore/dedicated training, committed diet/rest, and prime will hopefully get me there!

    Be sure to check out JJC's Prime log too, roughly same stats, goals, and both startin our 8 week runs on Monday. JJC's log

    This is my first log, and while I want to offer some light on the heavily discussed/criticized/praised Prime, this is also for personal benefit. Hope you enjoy and I welcome as much feedback as anyone could give

    My total list of supps goes as follows:
    Usp Prime
    Scivation Whey Vanilla
    Animal Pak
    Optimum Nutrition BCAA
    ZMA
    Superpump 250 (almost out though, gonna try something else)
    MHP Dark Matter
    food food food food food food food food food food food

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    final thoughts


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    I've had good success with Morph and H-Blocker both by isatori. (both Pre-Workout sups)

    Quote Originally Posted by kilmann40 View Post
    On Monday the 3rd of November, I will begin my 8 week log of USPLabs Prime (two bottles, suggested serving 5 days on, 2 days off). I am not sponsored and I plan to be updating everyday if possible.

    Age: 19
    Exp.: 5 years of hard work, with some setbacks (2 hernias )
    Height: 5'11 or 6', depends on the day I guess
    Weight: 200

    My workouts will be M-F
    M: Shoulders/traps
    T: Legs/calves/abs
    W: Back
    Th: Chest/abs
    Fr: Bis/tris/foreams/calves
    Sat/sun: off with cardio

    I'll be going for 6-8 rep range, 3-5 excercises for each bodypart with 3-4 sets. I'll give my exact routine before/by Monday.

    My diet is going to be as clean of a bulk as I can manage, fairly high carbs, 4000-4500 cals a day, 400 g's of protein.

    As far as goals go, I'm hoping to, like everyone else who's experienced Prime, break some damn PR's, get some nice recomp going on, good vascularity, etc. etc. Basically: get bigger and stronger. It'd be cool to put on 5-10 pounds over these next 8 weeks. Harcore/dedicated training, committed diet/rest, and prime will hopefully get me there!

    Be sure to check out JJC's Prime log too, roughly same stats, goals, and both startin our 8 week runs on Monday. JJC's log

    This is my first log, and while I want to offer some light on the heavily discussed/criticized/praised Prime, this is also for personal benefit. Hope you enjoy and I welcome as much feedback as anyone could give

    My total list of supps goes as follows:
    Usp Prime
    Scivation Whey Vanilla
    Animal Pak
    Optimum Nutrition BCAA
    ZMA
    Superpump 250 (almost out though, gonna try something else)
    MHP Dark Matter
    food food food food food food food food food food food
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1hyp View Post
    I've had good success with Morph and H-Blocker both by isatori. (both Pre-Workout sups)
    morph looks pretty interesting and is on my list of things to try, but it seems like a lot of people had pretty big strength gains on it and i want the results of this log to be primarily focused on what Prime produced. That will probably be my next PWO in January.
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    Well, Good Luck and I'll be keeping my eye on this!
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1hyp View Post
    Well, Good Luck and I'll be keeping my eye on this!
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    Routine for first bottle


    Pics are up (see above) comments/criticism welcome

    Here will be my routine for my first bottle (first 4 weeks) of Prime:
    Shoulders/traps:
    Behind-the-neck overhead press (4/6-8 rest pauses on last set)
    Widegrip upright row (3/6-8 with one drop set on last set)
    Leaning lat raise (3/8-10 with drop set)
    Bent over lat raise (3/8-10)
    Barbell shrug (3/6-8)
    Dumbell shrug (3/6-8)
    Legs/calves
    Leg press (6/6-8)
    Hack squat (4/6-8)
    Leg extension (4/8-10 with drop set)
    Romanian deadlit (4/8-10)
    Lying leg curl (4/8-10 w/ drop set)
    Standing calf raise (4/8-10)
    Seated calf raise (4/8-10)
    And three or four ab excercises
    Back
    Wide grip pullup (3/TF)
    Weighted pullup (2/6-8)
    Wide grip bent row (4/6-8 with rest pause)
    Wide behind neck pull down (3/6-8 with drop set)
    Wide grip cable row (3/6-8 with drop set)
    Straightarm pulldowns (3/8-10)
    Chest/abs
    Incline bench (4/6-8)
    Dumbell bench (4/6-8)
    Incline dumbell flyes (3/8-10 with drop set)
    Machine flye (3/8-10 with drop set)
    Dips (2/TF)
    3 or 4 ab excercises
    Tris bics forearms
    Closegrip bench (4/6-8)
    Cable pressdown (4/6-8 with drop set)
    Lying tri extensions (4/10-12)
    Barbell curl close grip (2/6-8)
    Barbell wide grip (2/6-8)
    Incline dbell curl (4/6-8)
    Preacher curl (4/10-12)
    Barbell wrist curl (4/10-12)
    Reverse wrist curl (4/10-12)

    Got a lot of the excercises from last months X-frame workout in M&F. Suggests a 5 day 2 off workout for mainly building mass and strength(sounds good for Prime if you ask me)
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    Thanks for linking my log here! I'll be keeping an eye out on your progress. We should have a good comparison going.

    I'm taking/posting pre-pics tomorrow night.
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    First dose!


    Woke up, drank a 40g protein shake, ate three eggs, and a bagel. Took 3 capsules (upon reccomendation from poops, boro, and others, I will be loading with 9 caps this week). Also, a switch in my training schedule: Monday's will be chest, and Thursdays will be shoulders. Can't wait to lift!!
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    Lets see how this one goes, I am on day 15 and day 12 I had some good strength increase along with a lot of other positive effects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilmann40 View Post
    Woke up, drank a 40g protein shake, ate three eggs, and a bagel. Took 3 capsules (upon reccomendation from poops, boro, and others, I will be loading with 9 caps this week). Also, a switch in my training schedule: Monday's will be chest, and Thursdays will be shoulders. Can't wait to lift!!
    I will not be loading, so let's see how this goes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by JJC View Post
    I will not be loading, so let's see how this goes!
    Yah the first time around it's good to test out senstivity, you make have very high response and not need higher dosing.
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    Dose 2


    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yah the first time around it's good to test out senstivity, you make have very high response and not need higher dosing.
    Yeah I've got a pretty universal tolerance for everything, and well, hell, me and JJC's logs are so alike I figured I'd throw a curveball in there for the initial week. Bout to take my 2nd dose with 4 eggs, 2 scoops peanut butter, and a 25g protein shake. Then...the gym!

    So far, there is definetly some kind of Prime presence. Can't really put my finger on it exactly, but it's definetly there. More soon!
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    I was absoluetly buzzed at first especially in the body... very alert to say the least...
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    Alright, pretty good day at the gym. My workout went as follows:
    Incline Bench:
    135x15 (warmup)
    190x8
    210x6
    210x6
    210x7

    Flat Bench:
    220x8
    220x8
    220x7
    220x7

    Incline flyes:
    60x8
    60x7
    60x7
    -dropset-
    50x6

    Machine flyes:
    170x10
    170x10
    170x10
    -dropset-
    165x7

    Dips:
    Bodyweightx15

    For abs, I did 4 sets of hanging leg raises and 3 sets of a crunch machine. But I did all of it in between sets of machine flys and dips, so basically, I didn't take a break for quite some time. So...on that note...

    Energy: 10/10
    Although I did take superpump250, I was noticeably more driven, focused, and basically physically motivated to do some f'in work

    Strength: 9/10
    Good workout, pushin through the lifts pretty easily. I don't think I rested enough at first though so there was a 2 minute period where I was feelin worked. But even then, my lifts didnt falter

    Recovery: 9/10
    Felt good. Definetly wasnt lagging.

    Pump: 10/10
    Great pump today, chest is still bulgin. Dono if its the Prime thats making it pumped or what, but definetly top quality pump going on

    Definetly had a good workout. Felt good/still feel good. Definetly notice a foreign presence (Prime?).Still got another serving to go, too early to say much but so far so good
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    With that kind of workout your going to feel really pumped, the Prime probably hasn't really kicked in yet because that type of workout you would have been so pumped you could hardly move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    With that kind of workout your going to feel really pumped, the Prime probably hasn't really kicked in yet because that type of workout you would have been so pumped you could hardly move.
    Yeah, you couldnt be more right. After I posted that, I realized that it definetly was the workout. Haven't done that kind of routine in a month and a half, forgot how it feels i guess?
    And since that is the case, I can't wait till Prime actually shows itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilmann40 View Post
    Yeah, you couldnt be more right. After I posted that, I realized that it definetly was the workout. Haven't done that kind of routine in a month and a half, forgot how it feels i guess?
    And since that is the case, I can't wait till Prime actually shows itself.
    Yah it's a weird feeling you really feel blown up.
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    Ah...day 2


    Prime Day 2:
    Today was leg day. Just a few months ago, I started doing legs again for the first time in 3 years due to 2 back to back hernias when I was 17. I played an entire lacrosse season on one of them, and the next an entire football season. So needless to say, the pain was brutal and sitting in bed for a month is near suicidal when your whole life is focused around physical activity. Seeing as I am nearly 100% positive both injuries stemmed from squatting and hauling a full keg across a yard while running, leg excercises scared me the most so I stayed away from them, at least until my upperbody became WAY too noticeably bigger than my lower body. Yada yada yada…point is, I don’t go too too extreme on leg day.

    Machine leg presses:
    Warmup of 175x25
    235x20
    250x15
    265x15
    290x10
    290x9
    310x7
    Closefooted leg press:
    250x12
    Widefoot legpress:
    250x12
    Leg extension:
    150x12
    150x12
    150x12
    -dropset-
    135x10
    Romanian deadlift:
    150x12
    150x12
    150x12
    Lying legcurl:
    150x10
    150x10
    150x10
    Standing machine calf raises:
    120x20
    120x20
    120x18
    120x17
    Seated calf raises:
    115 (2 45’s and a 25) 3 sets of 10

    Overall, good leg day. Wasn’t lagging at all, got a badass pump goin, felt like my recovery was good. Focus was noticeably good and towards the end I started doing ab work in between sets because I just didn’t feel like sitting around. Still too early to say if Prime is doing its job, but after taking it, I definetly feel what dreamweaver’s talkin about, the whole buzz/sensation/elevated thing or what have you. Back day tomorrow, one of my favorite workout days, major pumpage goin on.

    Question for anyone reading: I know USP’s anabolicpump and pslin are good to take with big carb meals, is Prime the same way? What I mean is, would the type/amount of food taken with it impact it’s potency? Took my first dose with breakfast which was big ol shake, some eggs, and a bagel. Took second dose with 12 oz chicken breast and 1 ˝ cups brown rice. Shoot me some advice if theres any to be…shot?

    Oh, and go see Zack and Miri make a porno. I swear on my Prime that it is some fuuuuuuuny shizzit.
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    Yah there is no reason to think that Prime would work any better with carbs.... maybe with some fish oil to help absorbtion. Just take it with meals.
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    day 3


    Did back today. Damn good day, was pumped as all hell. Focus was great, energy superb, and was recovering very nicely in between sets. I'm not sure if it's the Prime, but I'm definetly feeling more fuller and I noticed 1 or 2 veins that are more noticeable prior to this week....

    Don't have time to list my routine, but will later. My back is still pumped, and I lifted at 3 and a half hours ago
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    Yah Prime keeps you feeling pumped well after the exercise is over and into the next day.
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    Morph by isatori will do the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by v1hyp View Post
    Morph by isatori will do the same thing.
    If thats the case, and Prime continues to deliver this continually density/pump thing, I might be trying Morph sooner than expected. Maybe my next preworkout...I mean Prime would only supposedly make Morph even better right?
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    I would just stick with the prime for now, you seem to be a good repsonder and bigger things are on the horizon. I am rock hard around the clock when on prime. Activate and Drive gave me this kind of feeling but nothing like this. I feel like I could knock down walls like the Juggernaught...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I would just stick with the prime for now, you seem to be a good repsonder and bigger things are on the horizon. I am rock hard around the clock when on prime. Activate and Drive gave me this kind of feeling but nothing like this. I feel like I could knock down walls like the Juggernaught...
    Ah, the juggernaught, havent heard that name in a while.

    yeah, i seem to be responding pretty well to Prime indeed, I'll probably just stick with a conventional preworkout (might try assault, white flood, or perhaps ragnarok) when my superpump runs out. Shoulders and traps today, and im definetly expecting a badass workout
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    Day 4


    Had a great shoulders/traps workout. I was blowing through the sets, and definetly felt some kind of push to keep going. Did a lot more than I had intended on doing and had to slow myself down because I felt rested enough to get to another set after just 30 seconds of rest I think Prime is started to come through, I mean it has to be. I'm definetly feeling something different, and my muscles are starting to feel fuller in a sense. I'll post todays and yesterdays routines later when I have the time (at work currently). Looking forward to a massive arms day tomorrow.
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    Havnet been on a computer in days because my furcking laptop charger started sparking and well yeah, didnt get around to getting a new one til today. However I have indeed been to the gym. And Prime, I think it is safe to say, has started to shine.

    Last Friday, I had probably the best arm day/pump ever. The focus, intensity, everything. it was all there. At the end of my workout I was still dying to do more. Even after an intense hour and a half of heavy lifts I was able to curl 95 pounds 6 times. I took Prime a 6th day on Saturday and had an extreme cardio session. Ran/walked (HIIT) 2 miles, then hit the punching bag with 10 8 pound weights in my hands til I couldnt throw em anymore, immediately would go do ab work, go back and do the punching bag, abs, bag, abs, etc. etc. etc. 2 hours later I looked at the clock and at my sweaty shirt and called it a day. Took Sunday off of the gym and Prime and enjoyed some quality football even tho my team (Bucs) weren't playing

    On Monday (chest and abs day), I added 10 pounds to my incline bench lifts for the same reps, and 2-5 reps on all the other excercises. I hit legs harder than I normally do on Tuesday and followed it with some ab work.

    But Today was very very nice. Back day. I was adding 10-15 pounds to every excercise, sometimes even got mroe reps. My back, arms, and almost everything it seemed was HUGE. I mean, i always get looks at my gym but definetly was turning all heads today. Pump stayed with me for a while to.

    So my thoughts thus far on Prime...

    I defintely get a thorough pump throughout the day I've been noticing. I'm pretty sure I can attribute it to Prime. Today I really noticed a random surge of energy/badassness after my third dose. I'm definetly a lot more focused/intense. It almost seems like everything I take works better because of Prime. hallelujia. But most of all, I am feeling rock hard pretty much all day. I mean, again it has only been a week and a half, but theres something going on that is far different and my diet is the same as it has been for a while. We'll just have to wait and see.
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    Sounds like your going to respond very well, your getting all the early symptoms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Sounds like your going to respond very well, your getting all the early symptoms.
    Yeah I'm definetly feeling good on this stuff. I've always been a really aggressive guy. Played all the contact sports in high school, was that kid who always was getting in fights, etc. etc. I calmed down a little bit 2nd semester of my freshman year at college after I wound up in jail for a week (long story), and when I'm on Prime its like that same intensity I always had from when I was 15-18 is there, but in a much more controlled sense. Idk, it's definetly some good shizzit.

    Shoulders and traps were great today. Felt like I could go for much longer than I did. I definetly taxed every area of my delts and traps though and I was bulging afterwards. Can't wait for arms tomorrow.
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    oh, and I have now added Ragnarok warrior melon as my preworkout.

    and let me say....that **** is great. Great taste, awesome focus, pumps superb.

    Does anyone know if the beta alanine in the Rag and the beta alanine in an intra workout like PW or something be too much at once? Don't kno much about BA...so uh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilmann40 View Post
    oh, and I have now added Ragnarok warrior melon as my preworkout.

    and let me say....that **** is great. Great taste, awesome focus, pumps superb.

    Does anyone know if the beta alanine in the Rag and the beta alanine in an intra workout like PW or something be too much at once? Don't kno much about BA...so uh...
    i doubt it is too much... i used CL white flood pre workout and then during workout would use PW... loved it!!! massive tingles! BA and creatine suppose to be great stuff together
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    Everybody that talks about the aggression always mention how controlled they are. I know "I don't get excited but don't fug with me".
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Everybody that talks about the aggression always mention how controlled they are. I know "I don't get excited but don't fug with me".
    Well, that was the case...until Friday...lol

    I dont know what happened, but the "old" me came out of nowhere, and in Prime form, and there was a 2 hour period where I not only wanted to, but definetly felt like I could whoop 3 or 4 peoples ass at once. I mean, I've ALWAYS been that kid with the anger problem, a pretty serious one in fact but now im on medication n **** and a life to live, but the intensity of my little rampage was through the roof. makes me wish i still played football.

    But I hit the gym before my anger session was over, and had another AMAZING arm day. I was going practically nonstop and increased most of my lifts by 5-10 pounds

    Saturday I took Prime and hit the gym for some cardio. Before I knew it, it had been an hour and a half and I had run 3 miles, hit the punching bag for 45 minutes, and did an ass of ab work. The drive/endurance I get from this **** is great.

    But alas: this is supposed to be the big week
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    So today was the first day of the big week.
    I had to hit the gym at 6 am this morning due to work and school today, and let me tell you I am NOT a morning person. Needless to say, I was going through my lifts, but wasn't able to give it my all. The fact that I was getting all the same weights as my other Chest days in the afternoon though made me think that had I lifted, say, about now: PR city.

    But...what I did notice...is that all of a sudden some burst of strength or something came out of nowhere. After 4 sets of incline bench and 4 more of regular bench, on my third set of incline dumbell flyes (60's), I got to my 7th rep (where I had nearly failed on my last two sets). All of a sudden, three more reps came out of nowhere. And then the next set, which I doubt I rested enough for, I got 9 reps. I'm not Miss Cleo or anything, but I'd say Prime gave me a hand.

    I didn't realize it until now...but actually I lifted MORE weight on the pecdeck machine than I did last time...for the same reps...

    Hm...

    Well who knows, next Monday I'll be doing chest in the afternoon, so should be able to report any big jump in weights then. My bench has gone up at least 10 pounds so far though, probably more. So I'm currently impressed. Prime is definetly doing some good things for me.
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    Yes that happens you will almost fail on one set and the next will be easier, it baffles me as there is no pattern to it sometimes. I thought I had it figured out and did an extra warmup and then it came later in the set. It's like an itch the keeps moving.
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