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  1. So when you took it the first time around did you take it pre and post or through out the day?

    Right now, Im doing 3 early morning, 3 mid day, then three hours later I workout, and 2 more pills about 2 hours after wo.

    It's getting kinda odd for me because Im taking DTH which i CAN NOT TAKE within 1.5hrs of any food or I take 6-7 trips to the bathroom; however, the PRIME i take with food, so the dosing schedule is odd, especially since I wake up at 3:30 am 5 days a week.

    Thus far, this is my third week, and started 8 e/d this week which is very much a noticeable difference than the six pills 5 days a week the first 2 weeks.
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  2. following along steve. Nice food options!

    In for the massive gains!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    So when you took it the first time around did you take it pre and post or through out the day?

    Right now, Im doing 3 early morning, 3 mid day, then three hours later I workout, and 2 more pills about 2 hours after wo.

    It's getting kinda odd for me because Im taking DTH which i CAN NOT TAKE within 1.5hrs of any food or I take 6-7 trips to the bathroom; however, the PRIME i take with food, so the dosing schedule is odd, especially since I wake up at 3:30 am 5 days a week.

    Thus far, this is my third week, and started 8 e/d this week which is very much a noticeable difference than the six pills 5 days a week the first 2 weeks.
    Dosing: Was 3 PRIME + PSlin w/ Breakfast (PreWO. 65g Complex Carbs, 20g Simple)
    3.5 Hours Later: 3 PRIME + AP + 60g Complex Carbs.

    Today was a bit different, did 2 pre-WO w/ JP8 shake, 2 PWO w/ PSlin, then 2 post-HIIT session w/ AP. And final 3 were with the last meal of the day (now!)

  4. Pertinent Observations:
    My chest is itchy, and becoming redder from the scratching. Several distinct patches of redness in chest/arm area, with some red dots down on my abdomen.

    When assesing redness/swelling in the mirror (No I don't have the self-posing & admiring syndrome) I noticed both my bicep veins (basilic I believe) pretty dilated/ "pumped". The weird thing is I worked out 13 hours ago, haven't eaten anything in ~4 hours, and it's FING Freezing with snow on the ground! I'm the first to say the NO/pump products are bs, however I felt that this was a very surprising observation that is most likely due to PRIME.

    Also due to the worseing (allergic?) reaction, I will cut out nut products 100% for the next few days, continue moisturizing and will report back.

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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Dosing: Was 3 PRIME + PSlin w/ Breakfast (PreWO. 65g Complex Carbs, 20g Simple)
    3.5 Hours Later: 3 PRIME + AP + 60g Complex Carbs.

    Today was a bit different, did 2 pre-WO w/ JP8 shake, 2 PWO w/ PSlin, then 2 post-HIIT session w/ AP. And final 3 were with the last meal of the day (now!)
    Well, monday, I did 8 prime and 5 dth and the w/o was phenomenal, to say the least.

    On certain lifts, Im already back to where I was before my month layoff, odd to me, but great none the less..and Im only 2.5 weeks into the run.
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by shaddow View Post
    Found your secret hiding place! All caught up, and in for the ride!
    Thanks for joining in Shadow Your reward? A picture of the scrumtious salad I'm just polishing off.


    Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    Well, monday, I did 8 prime and 5 dth and the w/o was phenomenal, to say the least.

    On certain lifts, Im already back to where I was before my month layoff, odd to me, but great none the less..and Im only 2.5 weeks into the run.
    Glad to hear you had a solid workout! The weight didn't feel easy today,but I noticed myself digging deeper, pulling out a few more reps w/out any JP8.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Thanks for joining in Shadow Your reward? A picture of the scrumtious salad I'm just polishing off.
    Yay! I just had a salad myself. And chicken and pasta too. And an apple. And now I'm eating a protein bar.
  9. Day 5- Legs


    Workout: Legs
    BB Squats: 4x5
    Class for 2 hours
    BB Lunges; 4x6 (Poor form, I haven't worked on these consistently and 135 felt heavy after those squats)
    Stiff-Leg Deadlifts: 4x8 (Haven't done in 2 months)
    Machine Squat & Leg Press
    15 Min Elliptical Cooldown

    Comments:
    Weight= 172.5 - very dehydrated (Morning was messed up). After my Xtend + water PWO I weighed 175.5

    -I avoided calf work because I got some stress fractures back in October from them + my old shoes, so taking it easy.
    - Timing didn't work out. I had porridge at 8:30, was planning on hitting the gym from 10:20-11:30, ended up getting there at 11:15. Did the squats then class, then came back and finished up.
    - Weights felt heavy as usual, however I was pleased with how far I was "digging deep" and getting in those last few reps. No pre-WO supps at all today, just 6 prime scattered around the workouts w/ PSlin/AP
    - bit the bullet and put in an order at NP. Staple restock (BCAA's, Leucine, ZMA, Sesamin, Fish Oils) and impulse bought some DCP & Gut Health (Which might be usuless since my GI tract seems robust already). Also got 150g of GSE since it's discontinued. Missed the testofen
    - My neck got VERY itchy during the 15 mins of cardio, and afterwards before my shower I had a lovely red ring around my neck, as if I'd been throttled. Felt OK for 3 hours after my shower + moisturizer, but I'm itching again now.

    Quote Originally Posted by shaddow View Post
    Yay! I just had a salad myself. And chicken and pasta too. And an apple. And now I'm eating a protein bar.
    I polished off one of these angus sirloin burgers (I made about 50 in late august, I think I'm down to my last dozen) http://i36.tinypic.com/6zc68n.jpg

  10. Man, I hope your skin situation clears up soon.
    I find it odd; however, the human's individual set points are quite different from person to person - so anything is possible.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Man, I hope your skin situation clears up soon.
    I find it odd; however, the human's individual set points are quite different from person to person - so anything is possible.
    Yea I've got a good layer of this Aveeno stuff on me, so much that I can't scratch because my fingers slide lol BUT I"M STILL FING ITCHY UNDERNEATH! GAH!

  12. the weird thing is that you didnt get this reaction during your beta run correct???

    I mean the ingredients didnt change, just the dose size.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    the weird thing is that you didnt get this reaction during your beta run correct???

    I mean the ingredients didnt change, just the dose size.
    Maybe it's the strength?

  14. so overall status on prime?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Maybe it's the strength?
    I know had slightly dry skin last year, but with moisturizing the itchiness never bothered me this much. Perhaps with the 6x weaker strength it didn't affect me as much. I've definitely started losing sleep from the itching, hopefully this clears up in a few days. Or I might take the recommended 2 days off PRIME and see what happens, although I'd rather keep going strong on PRIME.
    I'm not a quitter though, so if there's a way to keep this PRIME run going, I will try it. I'm hoping my body adjusts to this change in weather conditions and I stop feeling like a scratching post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brad2131 View Post
    so overall status on prime?
    5 days in, nothing crazy although on day 4 I noticed some vasularity at the end of a freezing cold day, over 14 hours after working out without even looking for anything which surprised me. I just wanted to see why I was so f'ing itchy!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I 5 days in, nothing crazy although on day 4 I noticed some vasularity at the end of a freezing cold day, over 14 hours after working out without even looking for anything which surprised me. I just wanted to see why I was so f'ing itchy!
    Come to mention it, although I am not very vascular by nature, I have noticed more than usual and I am seeing veins under my skin that I never saw before up near my shoulders. I wonder as I lean out if I will be seeing these pop out a bit.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  17. Damn you Steveoph, I was just strolling thru your log and now I gotta get up and cook something cuz your pics and descriptions got my stomach rumblin'.
    [img]http://*************.net/eat-drink-smiley-7841.gif[/img]
    Nice log btw

  18. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Come to mention it, although I am not very vascular by nature, I have noticed more than usual and I am seeing veins under my skin that I never saw before up near my shoulders. I wonder as I lean out if I will be seeing these pop out a bit.
    Yea, I usually say the same thing : I get veiny when I work out hard, regardless if I use a pre-WO supp or not. But I found it unusual to be so vascular at the end of the day under those conditions.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    Damn you Steveoph, I was just strolling thru your log and now I gotta get up and cook something cuz your pics and descriptions got my stomach rumblin'.
    [img]http://*************.net/eat-drink-smiley-7841.gif[/img]
    Nice log btw
    Thanks! The purpose of my motivation is to encourage healthy eating, and to give you guys some extra food ideas. Some people eat way too much chicken and rice, and variety is the spice of life (Same with tea, for those who saw my Stash posted in Volcom's log http://i35.tinypic.com/11tbfkl.jpg) Don't get me wrong though; those busty babes are great motivators too
  19. Day 6- Shoulders


    Workout:
    1a) Dips (+30) 10,8,7(2),7(3) - No improvement from last time
    1b) Decline Abs: 4x10 Slow
    2a) Standing BB Shoulder Press 105x6,6, 95x10,10 (Bumped it up for 1st 2 sets)
    3a) Back Hyperextension DB Fly's- 15; 4x10 (Never tried before)
    3b) Bench Leg Raises; 4x12
    4a) DB Obliques 65; 10,10,9,8 ( Could have pushed harder)
    5a) DB Clean and Jerk? 60x6,55x6,6,5 ( 4 weeks ago did 50, meant to bump up to 55 but did 60 by accident!)

    HIIT: 9 Sprints, R=19 (Up 1), 25s Sprint, 50s Recovery

    Comments:
    Weight: 155.25 , 400 mL H2O w/ JP8 30 mins preWO, and usual Porridge + oats + PSlin + 3PRIME 2 hrs pre-WO.
    - moderate liquids

    DOMS: Medium (Good sign, I don't usually have much DOMS). The lunges were killer as I really focused on the movement. Also the SLDL's did a number on my hams, as I expected. This is what I used to call a "Cheek Day" when I got DOMS every leg workout.

    I diluted my lifts with comments. I made my HIIT sessions more intense, I keep dying out at 8 or 9th set with huge side pains, hopefully I'll be up to 10 sprints soon. I did R=18 for the longest time, so 19 is a bit harder.

    - neck was itchy at night, fine from waking --> hit the gym, then got progressively itchier during my workout. I really think my athletic shirt is getting old and "dried out" it feels, and is partly due to my neck irritation. I'm going to try working out in big wife-beater shirts to see if this helps (No neck friction)

    - no nuts is hard! 5 times already I've unconsciously dug way back to where I hid my pistachios and was ready to have some. Probably not the cause anyways, but I'm loading up on cheese instead
  20. Day 7 - Cardio


    Workout:
    Deads 135x5,225x5,315x4,3, 0

    Elliptical: 45 Minutes

    Weight 173 , quite dehydrated

    Comments:
    - one of those crappy workouts. I got back early from the kegger, tried to sleep at 11:30 and didn't fall asleep till 2:30ish because I was always itching and rolling over, insanely frustrating
    - my hams were still sore from SLDL's, and the bar didn't budge on 3rd set so I decided atleast to do some cardio
    - tiny cheat with a package of Reese's Pieces...mmm! What are you guys going to be having?
    - going to another kegger tonight. Didn't drink last night b/c lots of class/stuff this morning, might drink tonight, it's Halloween afterall Maybe that will help me sleep

    Qualitative Observations:
    - feeling "pudgy" because for the longes time I had my bf% around 5-8. Now I'm feeling the need to cut, which I will do once I finish PRIME. I will continue to eat a caloric surplus to allow the muscle building properties of PRIME to shine
    - no noticeable muscle hardening

    Week 1: From Writeup

    Week 1

    You will begin to experience the power of USPlabs Prime™ during your workouts…
    Weight will begin to feel lighter than normal and you'll begin to have great workout after great workout - even on days you don't necessarily enter the gym with the highest amount of intensity or energy.

    You will find the ability to "summons" strength almost at will…
    You also may begin to notice the anabolic effects kicking in where you're whole body will begin to harden.

    My Experience:

    - decent workouts, nothing blowing me away yet. Today was poor, but was caused by other factors (Sleep mostly)
    - no hardening yet, although unusual vascularity in my biceps at the end of the day once
    - I can summon strength at will, as I use my brachialis to consume this green tea

    Dosing Recap: 3 PRIME + PSlin PreWO Meal, 3 PRIME + AP Post-WO Meal, 3 PRIME w/ Dinner for 7 days.
    Rest of Log: 6 PRIME/day, 2 instead of 3 per dose.

  21. Man, you're still itching? Maybe you should see a dermatologist?

  22. Quote Originally Posted by shaddow View Post
    Man, you're still itching? Maybe you should see a dermatologist?
    If removing the irritating clothing from my neck for a few days doesn't help, I will resort to that.
    Side note: I'm back on nuts. You could say I cracked I said F this, nuts aren't doing this after being free of them for 2 days and itching like mad.

  23. you using any opiates? i'm being serious. That **** makes me real itchy.

  24. I also feel pudgy while on prime. I didn't up my calories at all either. weird.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by joeymutz View Post
    you using any opiates? i'm being serious. That **** makes me real itchy.
    Clean as a whistle

    I wish I could work out topless; then I wouldn't have to worry about my shirt rubbing on my skin which causes the itchiness. I would let the ladies do it to to be fair
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