Subweevil's Tore Up From the Floor Up log odf DTH/Sunami
- 10-12-2008, 01:32 PM
Subweevil's Tore Up From the Floor Up log odf DTH/Sunami
Alrighty, here goes!! This is my first log of anything, so pretend youíre my doctor and be gentle please. Just got my bottles of DTH and Sunami from the planet, and let me tell ya, Iím stoked!! Talk about speedy shipping, the boxes where smoking!! Anyways, I got this to compare it against Activate Extreme/Lean Extreme, which worked very well for me I might add, but my hopes have been raised even more for this stack, so without further babbling, Iíll get on with it.
JP8- 15 minutes before workout, 1.5 scoops, no food for 1 hour before.
Beta Alanine- 1.5 grams pre.
Extend- 4 scoops watermelon, intra-workout.
Glycomaize- 1 scoop mixed with Beta Alanine, and Extend, intra-workout.
American Whey (vanilla)- 2 scoops in light vanilla soy milk.
Beta Alanine-1.5 grams mixed into shake.
Animal Pak- mostly 1 pack per day, sometimes 2
Fish oil- 4 caps per day (4 grams)
CLA- 4 caps per day (4 grams)
Diesel Test Hardcore (Duh!!)- per instructions
Sunami (Double Duh!!)- per instructions
Soooo, I got home to see that the nice Fed-Ex man had delivered the goodies, needless to say I was stoked. Opened the box, inspected the contents, dosed accordingly by washing them down with JP8, and trucked off to the gym, ready to grip it and rip it. Iíve said it before but it bears mentioning again, JP8 gives me a laser-like focus in the gym, then the endurance factor kicks in later. I have never experienced this kind of focus/endurance from any other product, period. Some others I have tried ( Super pump 250, Vassive, Black Powder) gave me more stim effect than anything, and lacked the focus factor I get from JP8,as well as some of the endurance. Sure the taste isnít the greatest, but thatís not why I bought it, and Iím happy itís not loaded with crap, like artificial this and artificial that.
My workout for today:
Smith Machine Shoulder Press To The Front: I press the bar to full extension, then lower it until my upper arms are just parallel with the floor for constant tension on my middle delts.
6 x 225, then 2 x 3 sets of rest pause, 10 seconds rest between.
6 x 205, then 2 x 3 sets of rest pause, 10-15 seconds rest between.
6 x 185, then 2 x 3 sets of rest pause, 10 seconds rest between.
3 minutes moderate cardio
Seated dumbbell presses: Form just like the above exercise, only with dumbbells.
10 x 70, 10 x 55, 10 x 40, rest 1.5 minutes.
8 x 60, 8 x 40, 8 x 30, 8 x 20
3 minutes moderate cardio
Unilateral Cable Side Lateral Raises ( cable in front of legs for first set, behind for second): I start/stop with my hands about 2-3 inches away from my thigh for more constant tension on my middle delts, and also raise the weight higher than parallel to recruit more middle delt/trap tie in, even though it takes some tension off the middle delts.
10 x 20, 4 x 15, 3 x 10, 7 x 5, rest 1 minute
7 x 20, 2 x 15, 2 x 10, 5 x 5
3 minutes moderate cardio
Dumbell shrugs (a personal favorite): Pretty much says it all
10 x 140, 8 x 120, 7 x 100, 8 x 80, 8 x 60, 10 x 40 rest around 1.5 minutes, get angry at stuck-up chick sitting on a bench talking on a cell phone, complaining about some ďguy yelling while heís working out and itís making it hard for me to hear youĒ Sorry, thought this was a gym, not a damn phone booth lady. INSTANT ANGER = INSTANT MOTIVATON!! Oh and for the record, I donít yell, I grunt.
10 x 120, 8 x 100, 8 x 80, 8 x 60, 6 x 50, 8 x 40 ( very slow on these to feel em more).
3 minutes moderate cardio
Barbell shrugs: (Front and behind)
8 x 305 front, 8 x 305 behind, 7 x 225 front, 8 x 225 behind, 10 x 135 front, 10 x 135 behind. Always been stronger on the behind version, although I still get decent range of motion, rest 1.5 minutes.
7 x 305 front, 8 x 305 behind, 6 x 225 front, 8 x 225 behind, 9 x 135 front, 10 x 135 behind.
3 minutes moderate cardio
Face Pulls: (Inarius you know what Iím talkin about!!)
10 x 50, 9 x 40, 9 x 30, 10x 20, 13 x 10, rest 1.5 minutes.
10 x 50, 9 x 40, 8 x 30, 9 x 20, 12 x 10
Stand around and bs with some buddies who bounce and manage a local bar (Luluís) for at least a few minutes.
Reverse Pec Deck: Rear Delts
10 x 145, 6 x 125, 6 x 100, 6 x 80 rest 1.5 minutes.
10 x 125, 8 x 100, 7 x 80, 6 x 60, 8 x 40, 14 x 20
Talked to some other buddies about the up and coming Penn State game. Hate cardio anyways.
Wide Grip Cable Upright Rows superset with Narrow Grip Upright Cable Rows:
7 x 60 wide, 10 x 60 narrow, 6 x 40 wide, 9 x 40 narrow, 8 x 20 wide, 10 x 20 narrow, rest 1.5 minutes
6 x 60 wide, 9 x 60 narrow, 4 x 35 wide, 9 x 40 narrow, 5 x 20 wide, 9 x 20 narrow.
10 minutes HIIT ( High Intensity Interval Trianing) cardio.
Now For The Diet:
My daily intake is less focused on carbs and more focused on protein and veggies. I try to maintain a more ph balanced diet, hence the increase in veggies to compensate for the increased protein intake. Usually, I can eat about every 2 and Ĺ hours to 3, most of those meals/snacks are around 300-400 calories, depending on the day. When I do consume carbs, they come first thing in the morning (oatmeal or Kaishi granola bar), or pre, intra, or post-workout.
Typical Breakfast: (Low carb). High carb replaces the bars with 1 cup oatmeal.
4 egg whites, 2 yolks, spinach, tomato, feta cheese omlette
Fiber one bar/Kaishi bar
1 serving weight watchers yogurt (yum, cheesecake amaretto)
A. 1 scoop vanilla American Whey, 1 tablespoon powerbutter, 6oz fat free milk.
B. 1 banana, Fiber One or kaishi bar, 1 serving Weight Watchers yougurt
C. 1 serving Blue Diamond flavored almonds (flavor varies, but these things rock!!) 1 serving Weight Watchers yogurt.
D. 1 serving Xtend, Kaishi bar.
E. Whatever I can get my hands on at the time,
Typical Meals: (Low carb) High carb adds a some yam or slice or 2 of whole wheat bread, or my favorite, Barilaís pasta plus, itís lower carb, high protein, and itís got flax and fiber!! Ĺ to 1 serving.
A. Chicken breast, dark green leaf salad with cabbage and pretty much every veggie known to mankind in it.
B. 1 can tuna or salmon (rinsed), various steamed veggies.
C. South beach Diet meal (Chicken Capresse) I know, I know, let the flaming begin!!
D. Lean ground beef, steamed veggies or salad.
E. Some flank steak salad.
Typically, I guess my diet is kinda follows a 2 day low carb, 1 day moderate carb, then 3/1, then 4/1, then the cycle repeats. Of course, I listen to my body and try to adjust this diet as needed, but itís usually pretty strict. I have found this cycle works well for re-comping, and with partitioning the intake, it has worked very well. I really donít drink, which sucks Ďcause Iím always having to drive drunken friends around after last call, maybe I should start. I am stricter on this diet going into the month, loosen up around middle of the month if Iím not hitting my goals, then try to tighten it up around the end of the month if Iím on track, otherwise, I might let it slide a bit to get where I want to be.
Workouts usually start with this type of Giant Set/HIT stuff, done for 2 days on (chest day/ back day) followed by 2 days off, Then 2 days on (Shoulders day/ arms day). HIIT cardio takes place on the off days for 10 minutes, followed by steady state for the other 10 minutes. Yes, I donít like cardio. I usually do it between one workout switch to the other, or after 3-4 sets of something, or being done with a particular exercise. My second type of workout is done by working out the same body part 2 times per week, the 1st workout being compound, the 2nd being semi-isolation/isolation. 3 days on, 1 day off, 3 days on, chest day/back day/shoulders day. Training is in the 6-10 rep range compound and slightly higher in the isolation ones, but same range for semi-isolation. No real extra-intensity on the 2x week workout, theyíre hard enough. Third workout is of the Tri-set variety. 2 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, same as 1st week. Usually itís a compound 4-6 rep range (bench), semi-compound 8-10 rep range (dumbbell press), isolation 12-15 rep range (flye). I try to maintain a brisk pace throughout the tri-sets, taking only a break long enough to set up the next workout if itís not ready or being used already. Usually, I can get my way and everyone stays outta my way, the gym is real cool like that. Last workout in the cycle is just your typical run-of-the-mill straight sets in the 8-10 rep range, done reverse pyramid style. 2 days on, 2 days off, 2 days on, same as 1st cycle. Obviously, I do this cycle for pretty much a month, then focus on whatís lagging to round out the month. Also, I try to train instinctively, meaning if Iím feeling it or not feeling it, I adjust my workout accordingly, I donít like to do something just because. I have had some of my best workouts this way.
Things I have noticed so far: Everyone who knows me knows that I speak my mind, so this will be no different than anything else, period. I intend to list both the pros and cons, which, hopefully, the pros outweigh the cons, and from what I have read, I have no doubt they will. Please, ask any questions, and feel free to give any input, thatís what weíre all here for.
Pros: Only got 1 dose in today, not really a pro, just letting everyone know. Mood was kinda elevated, felt like a cross between JP8 and a caffeine buzz. Nothing really got me fired up, and nothing really brought me down, guess kinda like cruise control. On a cool note, the DTH smells like lemon iced tea, no joke!! The Sunami, not really sure here, perhaps someone can help me out. Good energy in the gym.
Cons: Got a headache 10-12 minutes after taking the recommended doseage, but it only lasted for about the time it took me to drive to the gym ( 15-20 minutes). Not a bad headache mind you, so no worries. Lots of times I feel headaches can be attributed to: Hormones, allergies or blood flow, and they all kinda go hand-in-hand, so I wasnít too worried. Good energy out of the gym, good enough to keep me up way late, hahaha. Just laid in bed counting the ceiling tile, listening to the little lady snoreÖ.and snoreÖ.and snore. I took the dose more than 6 hours before nappy time, so it might just take some getting used to it, or something, Iím sure Iíll get it ironed out. Not really a biggie in my book, cost me about an 1 hour sleep, but nothing big planned for the next day, so itís all good.
Notes: It was recommended by steveoph to consume more water to avoid the headaches, which I will gladly try and do, seeing as how I already go somewhat overboard on the water intake as is. Noticed that my urine wasnít disclolored, it usually never is, so thatís a good sign and a plus in my book. Thanks to steveoph for the quick advice, even though it wasnít asked, thatís what makes this forum great, the members, along with the reps, and last but not least the companies. As I said before, you have anything you want added/taken away, let me know, I value everyoneís input!! My time is somewhat limited, so details may be lacking, but ask away and I will answer as quickly as I can, since I realize I canít answer every question with just one post. Thanks guys and gals!! Oh, and check out 1HPís awesome log as well, he just started one up, only with a much cooler name!!
- 10-12-2008, 01:34 PM
10-12-2008, 01:41 PM
Hey No ball measurements?
Hmm maybe I should give JP-8 a shot sometime
Anyways you are gonna love this!
10-12-2008, 02:18 PM
JP8 makes for some fun workouts, it's a great way to guarantee myself DOMS!
Let me know how headaches/water intake turns out. Also a suggestion, Bold and Make Size 5 the parts where you start talking about Diet, Workouts, Supplements, Etc. Also I suggest posting links to Get Diesel Nutrition and optionally add the supp facts picture into the page so those unfamiliar with the products can understand what's going on
Other than that, good luck and I'll be following. Off to a great start, I like the detail.
PS: I'm not sure if you've read up on Soy Milk , but I would recommend staying away from soy if possible. It has been shown to lower testosterone, and that's what we're trying to boost here! Your call though, just a suggestion.
10-12-2008, 02:53 PM
Thanks guys for the input. No headaches today, so no worries. I will try to work on all the above u guys mentioned, just real packed for time, it's that thing called life,lol. yeah, I have heard about soy lowering test, also heard about it's anti-oxidant and N.O. boosting benefits, but I will omit it for this log, thanks!! I will post my arm log later today, man, was it fun!!
10-12-2008, 07:53 PM
Workout #2: Arms
Standing Olympic Barbell Curl (slightly less than shoulder width grip):
6x135, 3x2 sets rest pause(almost got it since moving up to the “Big Boy” plates, next time!!) only got 4 total 2,1,1, 6x115, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x85, 3x2 sets rest pause.
Lying Olympic Bar Triceps Extension (Nosebreakers) Found a neat way to do these is to lay a bench inside a squat rack, face out from the squat rack, lay down and see what pegs will catch the weight if you can’t get it back up, and presto!! Instant spotter.
6x115, 3x2 sets of rest pause, 6x95, 3x2 sets of rest pause, 6x75, 3x2 sets of rest pause.
3 minutes moderate cardio
Machine Preacher Curls
6x210,3x2 sets rest pause, 6x180, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x150, 3x2 sets rest pause. I know what all of you are thinking, but it’s an old machine with a double pulley set up, so no, I can’t curl 210lbs, do the math and you’ll get your answer.
Cable Triceps Press Down
6x120, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6 x100, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x80, 3x2 sets rest pause.
3 minutes cardio
Seated Alternating Incline Dumbell Curls
6x55, 3x2 sets rest pause, got 2,1,1 again, next time!!, 6x40, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x30, 3x2 sets rest pause.
Reverse Grip Triceps Press Down
6x95, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x75, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x55, 3x2 sets rest pause
3 minutes cardio
Seated Incline Cable Hammer Curls (Alternate to the front across chest and traditional)
6x80, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x65, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x55, 3x2 sets rest pasue.
Dumbell Triceps Kickback
6x45, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x35, 3x2 sets rest pause, 6x25, 3x2 sets rest pause.
3 minutes moderate cardio
Okay, now I usually don’t stray too far from a workout, unless I’m really feeling it, or not feeling it. So after the above, I was still feeling it, so I went through and did pump sets of all the exercises above. Wow, m y arms felt like they were gonna blow apart, I had such a serious pump, it was unreal. The kind of pump where you have to chill out for a few so you can take your shirt off kinda pump. One of the best arm workouts in a while. I was getting a good pump all throughout, which doesn’t always happen with this lifting scheme, more so with straight or drop sets, so that’s real cool
Okay, well, I’ve been increasing my water intake enough to have me realizing what “Old Man Bladder” is. I will say it is well advised to increase your water intake, as the label says. Funny thing too, I seem to have less sinus congestion and it feels like it’s easier to breathe, sounds funny but true. Wonder if anyone else can confirm this? Cardio was effortless, I could have dug a ditch around the world or run a marathon I felt that good, I just couldn’t seem to get very winded at all. Not being able to sit still is another thing that I have noticed as well, I always have to be doing something, I can’t even sit still and play my favorite video games without tapping my fingers or something, so something good is definitely going on here. As of now, I’m still doing the 1x2 DTH and 1x2 Sunami per day for the 5 days like the bottle says, can’t imagine what more per day would be like.
10-13-2008, 03:21 AM
10-13-2008, 08:47 AM
Yeah, I was pretty eager as well. DTH label says "2 per day the first 5 days" and Sunami Says to take along with DTH, so that's why it's dosed that way. After five days, I will bump it up to 3 per day if I feel the need. Honestly, seems to be working great now, no complaints. Pretty much feel all day long like I could dig a ditch around the world, I even find myself doing "housework" lol.
10-13-2008, 08:54 AM
At 3 or 4 tabs, the effects get even more pronounced. This new formula is stronger than the old ones, and the Sunami makes the effects even stronger so it's possible you will only need 2-3 tabs, which will make your bottle last 40-60 days! (of DTH)
10-13-2008, 03:23 PM
10-13-2008, 03:27 PM
10-13-2008, 04:44 PM
Yeah, it definitely has amplified all my pumps, this stack is simply awesome. I really never got much of a pump from JP8, but being on this stack, whoa!! I actually had to take some downtime between my arm sets, the pumps where so bad. A few good friends of mine noticed how jacked my arms where and wanted to know what was going on, since I'm natural. Not that I'm a big guy, but when you've got that crazy of a pump, it really gets noticed. So I shined 'em on to Get Diesel stuff and let them take a few scoops of my JP8. One guy insisted on taking 3 scoops and said it was the best stuff he'd ever used, and when was I giving out more free samples? He's normally one of those guys who works out for like 20 mins, checks out the scene, then leaves. He was still going strong whenever I was getting ready to leave. Said he felt like he hadn't really done all that much, and commented on the drive and focus factor he had. I really can't say enough good things about this stack, it's on from the second you take it!! I'm not being a nuthugger, this stuff works, and does just what it says, so the company gets my respect, along with the product. The easier breathing is also a plus, for people like me who have asthma. Almost forgot, ever thought of adding some forskolin to the mix, or coming out with a product that has it in? Just curious, because I've always had great success when supplementing with it, as have others, I feel that would be the icing on the cake. Good work Chuck, thanks, keep it up!!
10-13-2008, 05:15 PM
Cardio today guys, and man, I actually feel like doing it for a change. Usually, it’s okay by me, but not something I relish or brag about, like if my friends asked me what I was doing later, I wouldn’t hesitate to blow it off. Today though, I’m pretty fired up for it, so here’s my update:
Warmed up and stretched for a few minutes, shot the breeze with some buddies, then got on the elliptical and did 10 minutes of HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) and followed it up with 10 minutes of steady state cardio. This all felt really easy, then realized I had beat my constant state moderate pace time of a mile by almost 20 seconds!! All the while it felt like I was just cruising along. At this point, it felt like I really hadn’t done much cardio at all, kinda felt like I had just warmed up, so I decided to get some water, (drank my one serving of Extend already) and try another 20 minutes just like the last. Needless to say, I finished it just as easily as the first time, with pretty much the same results. A couple of my buddies where still around, so I went back and talked to them for a bit more before ducking out. All in all, one of my best cardio workouts ever, still kinda in disbelief.
What I would first like to touch on is how much easier my breathing was today, and how much clearer my sinuses where, which is no small feat for someone with asthma. Let me clarify that I rarely use my inhaler, it expires with over ĺ of it still unused. The effects I’ve been experiencing are nearly identical to using 2 puffs of my albuterol inhaler, my lungs are open, no painful burning or tightening of my chest, and I’m not laboring to catch my breath. Next up is recovery. I am not sore whatsoever from the previous workouts, well, maybe a little twinge here and there in my arms, but that’s it, usually I’m sore from all my other workouts as well, but I’m happy to report not this time. Thirdly, the pumps. This product does what it says about amplifying N.O. products, trust me. Additionally, I stay pumped for way longer and my muscles look fuller already, mainly my forearms. I will say though that my forehead feels tight, like the skin is stretched really tight, just noticed that today. Seems like I was sweating more too, so I took my temperature and yup, I was up 1/10 of a degree, I’ll keep checking on this couple time a day. For me, it’s no biggie, and shouldn’t account for as much sweating as was going on. I have zero concerns about it. Appetite is the same, as well as libido too. Although I will say this, the “Horizontal Mambo” definitely feels better, lots more sensation down there, sorry if that’s too much T.M.I., but just trying to include everything.
Impression so far
Honestly, I have no reservations recommending this stack right now, period. I have heard no bad, negative or detrimental short or long term side effects from the useage of this stack, or of the independent use of DTH or Sunami, so I whole-heartedly endorse it, it works!! Not only does it work by itself, it’s synergy with other products is awesome. I can’t wait to see what kinda gains I make in a month !!!
10-14-2008, 11:58 AM
Hey, do you notice some leaning up/losing water weight? I dropped 0.2" off my waist and look leaner. Gonna weigh in tomorrow to see how it is on that department.. On the older Dt's I always lost water weight..
10-14-2008, 08:37 PM
Pretty much same as yesterday, not much of a change to report. Cardio was still a breeze I’m happy to report. 10 minutes HIIT, 10 minutes steady state, a brief conversation to some friends10 minutes HIIT, 10 minutes steady state.
Like I said, cardio was still a breeze, recovery was still great, seem to be sweating a bit more, but no biggie, makes it look like I’m actually doing work.
Impressions so far
Yes, I have noticed that the little guys have been on a bulking routine, they are definitely a bit larger than before I started this stack. I said before everything seems a bit more sensitive down there as well, and that’s still the case. Seems like I also have a perpetual pump, as everything looks fuller, and vascularity is up as well. Don’t think I’ve lost any weight, but I will weigh myself tomorrow and find out for sure. Appetite is on the rise, didn’t think it would hit this fast, expected a few weeks before it hit, but again, I’m not worried, since I have to eat to grow. Calories were up 300 for me today, just couldn’t take my eyes of food. Normally, I’m around 10-13 calories per pound of bodyweight, depending on the day, and what kind of routine I’m on. Perhaps it was just a moment of weakness, but I burned it off. Also, I felt not as happy or euphoric if you will as I have for the past few days. The feeling is still there, just not as prevalent. I am still very pleased with this product, my recovery is nuts. Recently, I took on a job at UPS working early mornings (2a.m.) unloading, which lasts for 5-7 hours, so, needless to say, I’m getting a workout in before I workout, and I haven’t been sore the last 2 days from this job. I have been doing it for the last month, in addition to running my new computer business, while still finding time to hit the gym. Tomorrow, I’m gonna go nuts on my chest, but stick to my routine, but will see how I feel once I get to the gym, I’m sure I’ll tweak some things when there, this stuff is awesome for recovery and endurance. Stacking it with JP8 is unreal, lookin forward to it!!
10-14-2008, 11:42 PM
what day are u on? can u put that at the top of each update for me (to help follow), also ur dosage for that day. (IE...2/1/1)
10-15-2008, 03:02 AM
Oh yeah, I noticed the increased appetite aswell, last 2 nights I ate large bowls of pasta instead of chicken/broccoli lol..
10-15-2008, 12:22 PM
Awesome, keep it up, I loved hearing bout' the increased pumps!!!
Think training's hard,. try losing!
10-15-2008, 01:52 PM
Sure boss, we'll do!! the workout numbers correspond to the days I've been on it, additionally, Im doing it "As the label says, meaning both 2 DTH and Sunami per day for the first five days, sorry if I didn't make that clear enough in all my excitement. So after tomorrow I'm going ot bump both to 3 per day, that should be wicked!! Thanks for the support guys!! Chest workout is but a few hours away, so I will post when done wiht that. Should be like 10-12 sets of bench, starting with incline and ending with decline.what day are u on? can u put that at the top of each update for me (to help follow), also ur dosage for that day. (IE...2/1/1)
10-15-2008, 01:58 PM
10-15-2008, 02:38 PM
10-15-2008, 04:30 PM
whats up fellas, great thread. just got my bottles of DTH and sunami, on the getdiesel website the stack is called the hardcore double or nothing stack and theres a dosage schedule that goes along with it, it says not to kick the sunami in until day 11 and i was wondering if anyone knows the pros or cons of following this schedule. I'm a HUGE fan of DTH and never took sunami, and after all the write ups on here and other threads i dont know how much longer i can wait! any advice/info is greatly appreciated. keep up the good work.
10-15-2008, 04:41 PM
10-15-2008, 07:55 PM
Yeah, I would HIGHLY recommend following the bottle instructions, they're there for a reason. Some are more experienced with the product, but if it's your first time (like me), or even since it's the new formula, it's a good call. You can always bump it up. Also, whatever your water intake is now, prepare to add to it, and make sure your kitchen is stocked with food, your gonna need it when this stuff kicks in. Additionally, if you take any pre-workout supplement, this stuff will enhance it, big time!! I would highly recommend JP8, it's for real!! Keep me posted man!!whats up fellas, great thread. just got my bottles of DTH and sunami, on the getdiesel website the stack is called the hardcore double or nothing stack and theres a dosage schedule that goes along with it, it says not to kick the sunami in until day 11 and i was wondering if anyone knows the pros or cons of following this schedule. I'm a HUGE fan of DTH and never took sunami, and after all the write ups on here and other threads i dont know how much longer i can wait! any advice/info is greatly appreciated. keep up the good work.
10-15-2008, 08:07 PM
thanks fellas! sorry i highjacked the thread for a second but i appreciate the advice! great log subweevil, keep up the good work!
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