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Irish Cannon Gets Unnatural, Naturally - Part 2: CL's Blue Gene (sponsored)

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    I push for the 550lbs video as well. All in favor? aiiiiiii, all opposed? ... ... ... na- Get that phucker outta here!
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    That was some serious form and control. Very nice.
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    nah. not a huge fan of them. i do enjoy them from time to time tho.

    seattle is awesome tho. its a big city with a more intimate feel to it. and the weather, well i thought it was perfect. and i love gloomy weather in the winter, and cool breezy sunny days in the summer, and thats EXACTLY what seattle has. and its not dark until like 930 or 10.

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    I wonder how much weight I can SLDL right now... Probably 315 (ounces).

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    Originally Posted by shaddow View Post
    I wonder how much weight I can SLDL right now... Probably 315 (ounces).
    I bet if you wrapped your knees and wore a belt, you could probably double that.
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    How do you guys dose ZMA. It seems nearly impossible for me to take it correctly. I can't have it with food. I can't have it with calcium. I have to take it within 60mins from when I go to sleep.

    Am I able to take it an hour before I drink my casein shake before bed? Will the calcium from the shake still affect the ZMA after it's been digested?

    I remember now why I quit buying this stuff.

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    Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    How do you guys dose ZMA. It seems nearly impossible for me to take it correctly. I can't have it with food. I can't have it with calcium. I have to take it within 60mins from when I go to sleep.

    Am I able to take it an hour before I drink my casein shake before bed? Will the calcium from the shake still affect the ZMA after it's been digested?

    I remember now why I quit buying this stuff.
    What I have gathered is that the problem with taking ZMA with calcium is that the zinc and calcium will compete for absorption with the magnesium, and you pretty much render the ZMA formula useless. It kinda screws me up too. I like to cram in one last meal before I go to sleep which is usually ground beef & cheese or ground beef & spinach, but I gotta take my ZMA too, so what do I do? Stay up late every night.

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    Shadow is totally right on why ZMA does not work with calcium. I wouldn't take it an hour pre shake personally as it kind of defeats the purpose still.

    What you want to do with minerals like zinc and magnesium are restore the depleted areas in your body from your insane workouts earlier in the day. Even if the ZMA is digested when you have your shake, you are still drawing away from it with the calcium from the shake because calcium feeds on magnesium and zinc to get absorbed into your body...which would deplete your stores again.

    I have forfeited any late calcium or food in general for my zmk/somnidren gh...and i've seen better results this way than with a shake near bedtime. Everyone is different though I suppose.
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    Originally Posted by CTDeuce View Post

    I have forfeited any late calcium or food in general for my zmk/somnidren gh...and i've seen better results this way than with a shake near bedtime. Everyone is different though I suppose.
    I would have an extremely hard time getting used to not eating after 7pm just so I could take some ZMA.

    It's tempting. I'd love to try some Somnidren-GH and skip the shake, but I'd have to give it a go for at least 6 weeks to see how it affects me...Perhaps a log in the making?...

    ***10 minutes pass***

    Okay, so I just finished taking a dump and within the process I devised a plan...

    I normally have three shakes a day. Two whey shakes, and one casein shake before bed. What I can do is have my dinner meal around 5pm (when I normally have my second whey shake), and then around 7:30pm I can double up on a whey/casein shake. 4hrs later, take my ZMA, hit the sack a half-hour after that. How does that sound?

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    By the way, I'm UBER sore today. I'd call it DOMS, but it's really not delayed at all.

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    Even further improvement on my ZMA-Diet Plan!...

    Sip on 15g of L-Leucine between my last shake and taking my ZMA.

    That will mean I'll be getting in 35-40g of free-form Leucine daily.

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    Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    Even further improvement on my ZMA-Diet Plan!...

    Sip on 15g of L-Leucine between my last shake and taking my ZMA.

    That will mean I'll be getting in 35-40g of free-form Leucine daily.
    This is the winner!

    I actually take my zmk/somnidren with some purple wraath some nights. I figure I win on both sides because I am not taking in calcium and at the same time i'm still getting some protein before bed.

    somnidren log could be fun times
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    So I tried the diet change yesterday. Honestly, I didn't care for it at all. I was hungry by the time I went to bed, and I woke up in the morning with some nasty stomach pains.

    I decided instead of taking out the ground beef meal, I'm just going to add some of the ground beef to my dinner meal. So instead of just the chicken, I'll be having beef as well.

    I'm still real sore from Friday. I may try to get in to the gym to do cardio today, but my hams are killing me.

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    Originally Posted by Irish Cannon View Post
    By the way, I'm UBER sore today. I'd call it DOMS, but it's really not delayed at all.
    Then you had SOMS, Sudden Onset Muscle Soreness, which often times may lead to POMS, Prolonged Onset Muscle Soreness.

    I'm pretty sure I just made those up.
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    Originally Posted by VolcomX311 View Post
    Then you had SOMS, Suddenly Onset Muscle Soreness, which often times may lead to POMS, Prolonged Onset Muscle Soreness.

    I'm pretty sure I just made those up.
    Genius!

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    Leave it to Volcom to come up with new bodybuilding terms Im sure SOMS and POMS will be used again.
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    oh and Irish wheres that regular deadlift vid. Get it up son!!

    fake edit: oh I guess next workout
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    Dude, my lower back is begging for some recovery time before it gets hit by deads again. I already have squats to do tomorrow. Deads will have to wait a bit. Maybe another week or so.

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