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    well ive been on A.M. for a while but havent posted much, im a friend of mentaltwitch and im joining him in the quest to compete april 4th in the mid-illinois contest.

    i will be running a log on my 4 week's of epi and will try and get pictures at 2,4,6 weeks to show progress

    i know 4 weeks is going to be tough but ill fight trough it knowing it will produce gains.

    height- 5' 8.5
    current weight-157 waist 28

    my goals, are to gain mass all around but i really want to bring out my sholders and my calves. i also wasnt able to lift my legs for over a year because of a highschool injury but now im cleared to lift them, so i want to gain back everything that i lost on my legs over the past couple years

    week-1 30mg of epi
    week-2 30mg of epi
    week-3 40mg of epi
    week-4 50mg of epi


    also druing the 6 weeks i will be taking 100mg of dhea, im also going to continue taking no shotgun before workouts unless i start getting bad back pumps.

    pct
    week-5 A.I. stoked-2 in am/2 in pm
    6oxo-3caps
    2-servings of green mag
    2-diesel test

    week-6 A.I. stoked-2 in am/2 in pm
    6oxo-3caps
    2-servings of green mag
    2-diesel test

    week-7 A.I. stoked-2 in am/2 in pm
    6oxo-3caps
    2-servings of green mag

    week-8 A.I. stoked-2 in am/2 in pm
    6oxo-3caps
    2-servings of green mag


    Training split-

    day 1- chest, bi's, and tri's
    day 2- morning- legs
    night- sholders and back
    day 3- off

    i know it seems like im overtraining but i have found that working each muscle group 3 times a week produce better gains for my body.

    i will try and keep this schedule but i might change around a couple days because of work and school.

    food- i will be eating around 4000 calories and trying to keep it as clean as possible

    here are some pics they are about 8 months old and i have put on 5 lbs of muscle or so since, but heres an idea what im working with
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    Good luck on your Epi cycle. I ran one back in June. But I never went over 30mg, and didn't quiet make it 4 wks.

    The positive points on cycle where:
    the most intense pumps I have ever had
    nice strength gains
    +5.6 lbs (I believe I actually gained more, because I leaned out some, but never checked my BF)

    The negatives where:
    kidney pains through most of my cycle
    and lethargy and joint issues towards end of cycle

    Not trying to discourage you, everyone reacts different.
    Good luck and I will be following along.
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    subbed to track your log, good luck
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    im in, i would like to see how epi works alone
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    pics are up i will try and get current ones tommorrow or wednesday
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    DAY-3

    i just got home from doing my chest and arms. my workout was good and i am up 2 lbs to 159. i am beggining to tell some slight difference taking the epi. my arms looked alot fuller and i got a better pump during and after my workout. its still early.

    no side effects as of now

    ill be back tommorrow with more progress

    i will also hopfully have newer pics because the ones posted are old
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    subbed! sounds like its going to be some ride! Good luck
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    Might be alittle high for a first run you are only 156lbs. you don't need to go over 40mgs. Whats your age? Do you have a serm on hand?
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    I'll be watching.

    I would suggest you rethink your PCT, 6 wks will have you shutdown for sure, 6-oxo just wont cut it, in my opinion.
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    Wait i re-read that first post have you only been out of high school for a year? Don't do steroids until at least 21 man its no joke it will mess your body up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    Wait i re-read that first post have you only been out of high school for a year? Don't do steroids until at least 21 man its no joke it will mess your body up!
    im turning 21 in 3 weeks
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    Quote Originally Posted by futurepilot View Post
    I'll be watching.

    I would suggest you rethink your PCT, 6 wks will have you shutdown for sure, 6-oxo just wont cut it, in my opinion.
    i hear what your saying, im going to do 4 weeks for sure and judge it from there depending how im feeling
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    why are you dosing so high and for so long? you would get GREAT results from 30-40 mg/day for 4 weeks. any higher than that seems like a waste of money and a big strain on your body.

    you have a really good build already. don't blow out your androgen receptors just yet with high doses.
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    You need a serm on hand man. The longer you wait to cycle the better off you will be. You are def not near your genetic potential, and now you are going to do a 6 week cycle(which is your first) and you are going to go up to 60mgs. You haven't done enough research imo. You can keep it 4 weeks and not go over 30-40. You probably not going to listen but i am just trying to help out. Let me put it this way less is better. Take the least amount to get gains and no more. If you go to 60mgs on your first run (which is pure stupidity for someone your age and size) you are going to have to take way more every time after that to get results. Just think it through. And if you read the stickies you are supposed to post a steroid log unless you are 21
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    Quote Originally Posted by flexwell666 View Post
    why are you dosing so high and for so long? you would get GREAT results from 30-40 mg/day for 4 weeks. any higher than that seems like a waste of money and a big strain on your body.

    you have a really good build already. don't blow out your androgen receptors just yet with high doses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    You need a serm on hand man. The longer you wait to cycle the better off you will be. You are def not near your genetic potential, and now you are going to do a 6 week cycle(which is your first) and you are going to go up to 60mgs. You haven't done enough research imo. You can keep it 4 weeks and not go over 30-40. You probably not going to listen but i am just trying to help out. Let me put it this way less is better. Take the least amount to get gains and no more. If you go to 60mgs on your first run (which is pure stupidity for someone your age and size) you are going to have to take way more every time after that to get results. Just think it through. And if you read the stickies you are supposed to post a steroid log unless you are 21
    thanks for the help, i realize that i was getting in to much to quick i might just keep it 4 weeks 30 30 40 40 or 30 30 40 50, and save the rest for another time
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtohitme7 View Post
    thanks for the help, i realize that i was getting in to much to quick i might just keep it 4 weeks 30 30 40 40 or 30 30 40 50, and save the rest for another time
    That would be best bud. You won't need more than that. And look into a serm man you want one just in case!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtohitme7 View Post
    im turning 21 in 3 weeks
    i didnt catch that either. in that case, ill come back in 3 wks.
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    haha. this dude will be fine guys. Im helping him with the PCT and cycle stuff. He will be good. I got a SERM on hand for him if need be. He has a test booster and the 6oxo for estro control.

    Better not back out man. Im not.

    Do work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hman85 View Post
    That would be best bud. You won't need more than that. And look into a serm man you want one just in case!
    the epi doesnt start kickin till week 3-4. I say do the 6 still but drop to 40 and dont go above that.

    Epi was glorified as this "safer" not as harsh compund, do the 6 or if you do happen to decide to go for the 4. You have lots of time to cycle again pre-show.

    Just so everyone knows. This guy does not bulk up. He stays lean and is good at it. So he'll def. stay lean this cycle.
    Smart diet too for sure. I see him eatin good at work, besides the occasional box of pop tarts haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by MentalTwitch View Post
    the epi doesnt start kickin till week 3-4. I say do the 6 still but drop to 40 and dont go above that.

    Epi was glorified as this "safer" not as harsh compund, do the 6 or if you do happen to decide to go for the 4. You have lots of time to cycle again pre-show.

    Just so everyone knows. This guy does not bulk up. He stays lean and is good at it. So he'll def. stay lean this cycle.
    Smart diet too for sure. I see him eatin good at work, besides the occasional box of pop tarts haha
    haha im in it to win it, no backing out here. and the key to the perfect diet is poptarts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugger View Post
    Damn you are jacked son! You've got the makings of a classic looking physique. [Borat] Very niiice [/Borat]
    thank you for the comment
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtohitme7 View Post
    thanks for the help, i realize that i was getting in to much to quick i might just keep it 4 weeks 30 30 40 40 or 30 30 40 50, and save the rest for another time
    good to hear that you are coming to your senses. i strongly echo the sentiments of others who say take the lowest dose you can. you have many more years ahead of you.

    also, you should really rethink your pct. epi and 6 oxo are both essentially A.I.'s. running them back to back might not be the best idea for recovery. if you want to give yourself the best chances of keeping your gains, look into a serm for real.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtohitme7 View Post
    thanks for the help, i realize that i was getting in to much to quick i might just keep it 4 weeks 30 30 40 40 or 30 30 40 50, and save the rest for another time
    yah i like this layout better
    30/30/40/40

    either cycle you do .. youll be emptying out one bottle ..bc that cycle you will need 98 caps ..so you wont get to save any ..unless you have couple of bottles laying around.

    i like the log though .. keep it up and good luck
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    Day-5
    i weighed in at 161 today so up 4 lbs. i also noticed that i was more vascualar. yesterday i worked my sholders and my lifts all increased by about 5-10 lbs so im seeing some strength gains. my max bench also went 225 to 245. hope these gains continue

    i havent noticed any sides at all
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtohitme7 View Post
    Day-5
    i weighed in at 161 today so up 4 lbs. i also noticed that i was more vascualar. yesterday i worked my sholders and my lifts all increased by about 5-10 lbs so im seeing some strength gains. my max bench also went 225 to 245. hope these gains continue

    i havent noticed any sides at all
    good job so far. like everyone has already said, you can make BIG gains with small doses. now you have the proof first hand. a 10% increase in bench is nothing to sneeze at.
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    ha. after 5 days, right. no youre prolly eating and even if it is placebo itll kick in eventually and youll feel it.
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    Well one week has gone by and im starting to see some small gains. my lifts are going up, and im slowly gaining size. so far i have gained 6 lbs and became more vascular
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    nice to hear bro ur lookin good i knt wait to see what this does for you
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    day 13- weighed in at 165 today so im up 8 lbs. body fat has stayed the same and i havent lost any definition. i am starting to gain size all over. i cant wait to get new pics up to show you guys the progress, pics will be up on sunday
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtohitme7 View Post
    day 13- weighed in at 165 today so im up 8 lbs. body fat has stayed the same and i havent lost any definition. i am starting to gain size all over. i cant wait to get new pics up to show you guys the progress, pics will be up on sunday
    knt wait to see those pics broo
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    well here are some new pictures. 2 weeks and 3 days in im up 7 lbs to 164. the lighting was different then the 1st pictures so it shows less definition
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    lookin lean and musuclar i am going for that look bro keep it up lookin great ! and i def see sum gains !
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    Awesome results so far, bro !! I'll be keeping an eye on this one .. I began Epi myself a couple days ago @ 40mg/day. Will be bumping to 50mg/day in a couple of weeks. I'm looking forward to the LEEEAN gains you've obviously gained yourself !

    Keep it up !
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    any feedback on new pics
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