joe's Animal Pump vs Shock Therapy thread
09-16-2008 08:56 PM
Sunday 9/14, Back (and Bi's) Pump & ST
ABC @ The Body Shop, Yorkville, WV (The House's home gym)
actually, i did double-up and used both Pump (minus the red pill) and Shock Therapy for the ABC this past weekend.
i was beat from running around the show all weekend and staying up late the two nights before and this really got me thru...
hit up back with The House, Al, Shaffer, and a guy from NC that competed in the show the night before.
went down like this:
i also threw in a few giants sets to finish of my Bi's at the end by myself:
preacher curl machine
i was breaking House's balls about not doing bb rows or dl's or something like that on this back day.
we were all tired from the show and i know The House was exhausted promoting his first show and playing host to everyone.
i'll tell you what... thank goodness we didn't do anything else because my lats are sore as hell!!! shaffer can confirm this.
considering how tired i was, the focus, pump, and stamina that i had were damn good.
the extra "kick in the ass" from ST was a life-saver this day.
i had a good pump in my lats and that was awesome considering the circumstances.
kids, don't try this at home!
i gotta say that i was impressed with the way that the whole ABC hit it that day...
Enforcer, yohead, Broc, Tom, Brent, Shaffer, everybody did it right.
09-16-2008 09:07 PM
Tues 9/16, Chest, Shock Therapy
i made the switch to ST for this week's workouts.
the show and the ABC this weekend, as well as the day off yesterday really had me ready to smash my chest today.
decided to try that FST-7 training style...
really pretty simple and it makes a lot of sense.
incline db presses, 3 working sets
flat HS presses, 3 working sets
chest press machine, 3 working sets
cable x-overs, 7 sets, only 30sec of rest between sets
wow, had a great pump from this session...
i forgot how great ST kicks in too!
nice kick in the ass!
not as smooth as Pump, but really had me in the mood to crush ****.
not quite as focused as usual, but i just wanted to grab weight and push and push
the last compound exercise (chest press machine) and the 7 set was tough,
but i found myself rest-pausing a little and getting an extra rep or two
ST coupled with this style of training gave me a serious chest pump
09-16-2008 11:20 PM
looking good bud. Keep up the good work!
09-19-2008 03:34 PM
Thurs 9/18, Legs, Shock Therapy +
1st time using Intra-Aid!
mixed up Intra-Aid about 1.5 scoops in 25oz of water (added a little extra water throughout my workout)
using FST-7 training method
7 set: leg ext + leg curls
i haven't been able to squat for quite some time becasue of my shoulder inury & surgery,
but saw that my gym has one of those cambered bars...
actually allowed me to squat without opening my shoulder too much.
decided to go with 2 exercises for the "7 set" and damn, it was brutal.
my legs were extremely pumped, especially my quads
(they disappeared doing all that cardio and i'm trying to get them to come back! haha)
definitely felt the BA "tingles" aka "face-itchiness" while drinking Intra-aid.
my legs were fried at the end of the workout, but i was able to do the 7 sets and muster an extra rep or 2 at the end.
again, a kick in the arse. i notice that w/ ST i'm kind of in a daze until i get under the weight, then it's all business.
not quite focused, but ready to rock
the 7 set was tough, but i found myself rest-pausing a little and getting an extra rep or two
wow. i could barely walk. seriously.
walking up stairs: shaky
walking down stairs: very dificult, sketchy at best.
thank goodness for Torrent!
first time runing the "big picture stack" was good.
09-19-2008 04:26 PM
Great stuff up in here, bro!!!
09-19-2008 04:30 PM
Good killin it on the ST Joe!
09-19-2008 04:39 PM
09-23-2008 04:05 PM
believe it or not, my legs (quads mostly) are still sore from last thursday
hitting up chest tonight,
ST + IA + Torrent (Big Picture Stack) again...
i will update you guys tomorrow.
09-24-2008 07:34 AM
Doing big things with that big picture stack... its a great feeling when your legs are still sore... means you are definitely putting in that work... great job Joe.
09-24-2008 10:58 AM
Really curious to see how you did bro. If your shoulder is still not where you want it to be, PM me, I want to run something past you and see what you think.
Originally Posted by joeyamma
09-24-2008 02:24 PM
thanks for following along bro!
Originally Posted by Hoomgar
09-24-2008 02:36 PM
Tues 9/23, Chest, Shock Therapy (and Intra-Aid)
used FST-7 and decided to hit the db's to see how my shoulder held up...
shoulder/rot cuff warm-up exercises
machine chest press
inc db presses
inc HS chest press
pec deck (1st time i could use this machine since about a year ago)
7-set: fly machine, 15 reps per set, really focusing on squeezing my pecs at the end.
energy & focus:
i took a few extra days off from the gym and i was itching to get in there...
i had that kind of unfocused energy that i have come to expect from ST.
i'm kind of in a daze from all fo the energy, until i have some iron in my hand, that is, then it's game-on.
excellent. my shoulder was giving me problems and popping on the db's presses, so i did an extra set.
also, on the HS press, my shoulder gave on my last set, so i dropped the weight and did 2 more sets of slow, concentrated reps.
even on my "7-set" i got all of my reps and increased the weight a little.
very good. i didn't think i was that pumped until i tried to flex my pecs and realized they were about as pumped as they could get... whoa.
i'm starting to really see the difference between Pump and ST now that i'm paying attention to it.
stamina is good and i like the effect of Intra-aid even though i've only used it twice so far.
mixed 1.5 scoops Intra-Aid with 0.5 scoop of grape Gatorade and a full shaker of cold water.... yum!
09-26-2008 10:46 AM
Thurs 9/25, Back (and Traps), Shock Therapy (and Intra-Aid)
been feeling a bit run-down and tired this week...
so i decided to mix 1/2 scoop of ST with a scoop of IA for intra-wo in addition to my pre-wo serving of ST.
didn't use the FST-7 on my back as i'm trying to do some overal width movements and i really didn't feel like it, haha
went down like this:
assisted pullups (warm-up and stretching)
lat pulldowns (several different grips, good warmups)
bb bent over rows
HS high pulldown (several single arm sets and dropsets)
low cable rows
jailhouse bb rows (used 25's for more range of motion a la BigAnt and Vinny G)
had a good pump in my back, and i decided to do some shrugs...
bb shrugs a la The House (normal grip + wide grip + reverse in the rack)
db shrugs (elbows bent, high contraction, just to finish them off)
energy & focus:
that unfocused ST "rage" that i've come to know and love
ST gives me a whole lot of energy and i'm kind of in a daze until i grab the weight.
very good - as you can see, i was beat before i went into the gym, but once i got going, i didn't want to leave.
good. i was really focusing on mind-muscle connection with my back.
i think i have thickness, but my width is severly lacking...
i'm going to try to "will" some width back there, haha.
my back was pumped pretty much the rest of the night.
IA + grape ST is TASTY.
also, i really think IA helps my workout stamina, but i'll use it a little longer before i make that statement.
i really think that using IA intra-wo makes me hungrier post-wo...
usually Torrent satisfies me and i don;t really want to eat until about 45 mins after it.
since using IA, i need to eat ASAP after downing my Torrent (i still try to wait 20 - 30 mins).
maybe IA is keeping/making me more anabolic?
i will continue to monitor.
09-26-2008 10:50 AM
that was my last "official" log post regarding the Animal Pump/Shock Therapy comparo.
i plan to place my vote and comments in the official poll thread.
09-26-2008 12:46 PM
09-26-2008 12:49 PM
09-26-2008 12:57 PM
well, it has been fun comparing these two products...
Originally Posted by Inarius
i have used them both regularly in the past, but never stopped to actually compare them.
first thing is that both of these products worked for me, each with different advantages.
here's my take on them both:
- convenient: i like just slamming down a pack
- energy: smooth and sustained
- focus: excellent mental focus during workout
- flexibility: ability to remove stims
- pumps: good solid pumps
- powder mixes quickly and easily and tastes decent.
- energy: kick in the ass! if you're feeling rundown or tired, ST will get you through your workout.
- intensity: the energy in ST really gets me going
- pumps: very "full" pumps and vascularity
Winner: Animal Pump.
overall, i prefer the smooth, sustained energy and focus from the red pill.
when you combine that with the convenience of the pack, ability to remove the stims, and good pumps, it's tough to beat this combo.
that being said, i pretty much always have a tub of ST and Storm in my cupboard.
these are two products that work, are cheap, and a tub lasts for a long time.
09-26-2008 12:58 PM
thanks bro, glad you like it!
Originally Posted by MrDead
09-26-2008 01:50 PM
Deff was an interesting way to keep this log rolling Joe. Great review!
09-30-2008 12:12 PM
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