[Rosie Chee]

one more for the records...

today i hit the bench for a few light sets of 135, between 10 and 12 reps. on the real, i stopped doing barbell bench about 4 months ago BECAUSE of my shoulder joint pain and discomfort, even at light weight.

TODAY I HAD NO PAIN OR DISCOMFORT IN MY SHOULDER JOINT

if i didnt think it were creepy, id prolly go and hug all the AN guys when im at the olympia expo. instead i think a handshake will do.

i was honestly smilin ear to ear after i completed just a few reps, and to my amazement i completed 3 whole sets.

is there a rep option for companies?

A+++ on this product guys and gals at AN.

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ps. wont be giving another update until sunday or monday. im going camping with my dad at kennedy meadows in california, near mammoth mountain. ill be doing my depletion workout and carb up while camping. bringing my cheap 30 lb db's and gettin it done haha. should be a nice, relaxing weekend of fishing, hiking, and throwin back a few beers with my pops.

Glad you're loving what you're feeling (or NOT feeling) ...Have fun camping.

[rolandajoint]

UPDATE #5
welllll
im still dosing my osteo sport at night at 4 caps. nothing really to note as of now. did my depletion workout at my campsite with my 30 lb db's. only problem was that at the higher elevation i cold barely breathe after one superset.

so basically only did 3 sets of 20 as opposed to my usual 5. but oh well. refeed was extremely clean too, up until tonight again, oh well.

im going to start giving my shoulders and chest their own routines again, except light light weight, and only for about 10-12 reps. so im pretty excited about this, and i hope my recovery will continue with the same positive momentum that it has had thus far. wish me luck...

[rolandajoint]

UPDATE #6
today i had my first structured chest workout. happy to say i did so with very little pain. a little bit from the tendonitis, and none from my joint. just did light sets on everything, nice and steady. heres the workout:

flat bench
95 x 15
135 x 12
135 x 12
135 x 10

hammer strenght incline

1 plate each side x 12 x 3 sets

incline db press

40 x 10
35 x 12
35 x 12

high cable cross-overs

30 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12

probably one of the most depressing workouts every. these numbers are basically half or more than half of what i was doing before i stopped chest and shoulder exercises.

oh well. muscle memory right??

staying positive still. i realize rehab and recovery takes time, and im being as patient as possible, hoping that i wont have to do this again anytime soon, or anytime at all!

[shaddow]

Hey, at least you're finally getting in a structured workout! Just take it a day at a time, bro. It'll come back to you.

[Rosie Chee]

UPDATE #6
today i had my first structured chest workout. happy to say i did so with very little pain. a little bit from the tendonitis, and none from my joint. just did light sets on everything, nice and steady. heres the workout:

flat bench
95 x 15
135 x 12
135 x 12
135 x 10

hammer strenght incline

1 plate each side x 12 x 3 sets

incline db press

40 x 10
35 x 12
35 x 12

high cable cross-overs

30 x 15
50 x 12
50 x 12

probably one of the most depressing workouts every. these numbers are basically half or more than half of what i was doing before i stopped chest and shoulder exercises.

oh well. muscle memory right??

staying positive still. i realize rehab and recovery takes time, and im being as patient as possible, hoping that i wont have to do this again anytime soon, or anytime at all!

Yep, your muscles have an amazing capacity for memory. And while it may not be as fast a progression as you'd like, your strength WILL return. Proper rehabilitation is the important thing at the moment, just so you don't have the same problem again. But, great stuff, about there being little pain. Keep your head up, man.

[rolandajoint]

rosie and shaddow, thanks for the support.

forgot to mention, i did back yesterday, and did slightly-wider-than-shoulder grip pull downs for the first time since the injuries. got up to a clean set of 7 at 210, with no peep from the tendonitis, or the shoulder joint

[Rosie Chee]

rosie and shaddow, thanks for the support.

forgot to mention, i did back yesterday, and did slightly-wider-than-shoulder grip pull downs for the first time since the injuries. got up to a clean set of 7 at 210, with no peep from the tendonitis, or the shoulder joint

No worries; that's what I'm here for.

Sounds good. You should be aiming to strengthen your rotator cuff, rhomboids, lats, traps, and arms, serratus anterior, and pecs (to some degree), in your rehabilitation.

[rolandajoint]

No worries; that's what I'm here for.

Sounds good. You should be aiming to strengthen your rotator cuff, rhomboids, lats, traps, and arms, serratus anterior, and pesc (to some degree), in your rehabilitation.

ive been doing some rotator cuff exercises, like every couple days. could you point me in the direction of maybe something structured to follow for rehab?

[Rosie Chee]

ive been doing some rotator cuff exercises, like every couple days. could you point me in the direction of maybe something structured to follow for rehab?

I will just give a general idea, since a full rehabilitation programme involves so many things.

Your rehabilitation programme will progress in phases (i.e. once you accomplish the outcomes of each particular phase, then you move to the next).

Needs to include :
* Proprioception (daily)
* Range of Motion (daily)
* Flexibility (daily)
* Strengthening (initially daily, then 3-4 times weekly, depending on the phase)

Examples (remembering that you DON'T do them ALL at once, but some exercises are progressions from others):

Proprioception (hold for 30-60 seconds):
- 4-point kneeling
- 3-point kneeling
- 3-point kneeling with hand on a medicine ball
- 3-point kneeling with hand on BAPS Board
- Setting the Scapula

Range of Motion (15-20 reps per side):
- Pendulum flexion/extension
- Pendulum abduction/adduction
- Sawing flexion/extension
- Theraband internal/external rotation

Flexibility (hold each stretch for 20-30 seconds):
- Head Rotation
- Neck
- Shoulder
- Upper Back
- Chest
- Triceps
- Biceps

Strengthening:
Early Phases
- Theraband flexion/extension
- Low-Pulley Front Raise
- Low-Pulley Bent-Over Lateral Raises
- High-Pulley Lateral Extension
- One-Arm DB Row
- Push-Ups
Later Phases
- DB/BB Shoulder Press
- DB Lateral Raise
- DB Rear Raise
- BB Upright Rows
- Close-Grip Seated Row
- BB Bent-Over Rows
- Variations of Pull-Ups
- DB/BB Flat/Incline Bench Press
Also need to be doing exercises for lower body and core strengthening

[rolandajoint]

UPDATE#7
alright check it out i have a couple pieces of good news to share with you boys and girls.

first off. did my first structured shoulder workout tonight. started a little shaky, but once i got the blood movin and stretched a little more, it was f*cking epic.

started with about 15 minutes of rotator cuff exercises, a couple of lat exercises, and lots of windmills to stretch out. no clicking here, but a little bit of stiffness and soreness, which i am pretty sure is chest DOMS from yesterday.

slighty-wider-than-shoulder grip upright rows
45lbs x 15 x 4 sets (this felt so good. no homo)

one arm db lateral raises
15lb x 15
20lb x 12 x 3 sets
10lb plate static hold x 15 seconds x 2 for each arm

one arm cable scarecrows
15lb x 15
20lb x 15 x 3 sets

db shrugs (btw. did these with no straps, and no gloves. forearm development )
80's x 15
110's x 12
120's x 12
120's x 10
-drop-
100's x 12
-drop-
80's x 15
(i thought i was going to pass out after this little doozy)

did some more stretching, slow windmills, going from big circles to little circles, backwards, and forwards. felt really really good. and no clicks.

also, no discomfort from my tendonitis. was a little painful throughout but only because of chest DOMS, so a soreness rather than a pain.

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annnnnnd onto my mini core zap log.
holy balls it felt like rpm today. i was a little down on my way to the gym. im currently unemployed, broke, and yeah, who wouldnt be a little depressed from that.

nonetheless, took 4 caps of core zap, drove to the gym. and after my first couple sets of upright rows, it kicked in. and good god did it kick in. felt like an absolute beast. i wanted to hit everything super heavy, but instead, did the smart thing, and just kicked up the intensity with minimal rest time, and a brutal forearm workout.

overall opinion of core zap so far: i wish it were a better value. only 22 servings? kinda sucks.

id say its probably a little bit better stim effect than rpm. i dont get the bulging eyes effect with rpm everytime, but i do with core zap. however with rpm, i feel that "im going to try and rip this 45lb plate in half" feeling faster and it lasts a little bit longer. other than that, i think its deserves as good of a reputation as RPM. they are both very very good preworkout boosts, and they both have their strong points. excellent job doug and all the people at CORE.

[rolandajoint]

a little bit of progress, dont ya think?

mid senior year - jan/feb 2006 - about 235lbs - middle guy, before an epic basketball game for our high school


april 2007 - about 210


sept 26 - end of ckd week 4 - before refeed at 175


update coming later tonight.....

[rolandajoint]

UPDATE #8
did my depletion workout friday. went well. refeed went well. went to the olympia expo on saturday. met lots of cool doods including some AM vets :lanbane, dsade, trauma1. picked up lots of goodies, including ANOTHER bottle of osteo sport for the killer expo price of 20 bucks! ate some protein bars, and crammed about 6 plates and then dessert at the rio buffet with my cousin and his family.

and for shoulder/tendonitis updates, i feel that my shoulder has improved tenfold. no clicks, no discomfort in my joints, all my joints feel better as a matter of fact.

only thing bugging me right now, the tendonitis. i feel it has improved, but not ready to hit anything heavy. i did some shoulders yesterday and it felt really good. pressing caused some pain in my tendon, but raises to the front and side and the one arm rear cable flyes felt good. upright rows also felt good, but there was still a little bit of pain in the tendon.

today i hit chest, or attempted to hit chest. did a few sets of flat bb press, and i felt a lot more pain in my tendon, not as much as about 2.5 months ago, but enough that i couldnt do anymore than 3 or 4 sets of pressing movements. although, i recovered the workout with some heavy cable flyes. no pain there. really hit it hard, got an awesome pump from it, and went on to my bi and calf workout.

pretty depressed that pressing movements are causing pain and probably aggravating my tendonitis again. im going to try and go to a sports doctor tmrw to get an official diagnosis and hopefully a prescription for physical therapy.

im still being patient and optimistic, but its disheartening when training is half assed because of an injury.

[Vitruvian]

Was great meeting you man! Glad the Osteo is helping you out!!!!!!!

[Outside Backer]

great progress pics !!!!!!!!!!

[Rosie Chee]

How much left do you have of your OsteoSport, bud?

[rolandajoint]

How much left do you have of your OsteoSport, bud?

well in the current bottle, maybe 8 caps left. however, ive still got a bottle i bought at the olympia, and another bottle on the way from the creative picture contest that austin was running. im pretty much set for the next like 3 months or so

[CTDeuce]

today, my dog, nelson aka nigga black, passed away. ive had him since i was like 6 and he was 14 and a half. gonna miss that guy.



update on friday.

Im sorry to hear that buddy. Consider me subbed...I am just seeing this log now.

Great progress by the way.

[Rosie Chee]

well in the current bottle, maybe 8 caps left. however, ive still got a bottle i bought at the olympia, and another bottle on the way from the creative picture contest that austin was running. im pretty much set for the next like 3 months or so

Will you keep this log going, then (since you have another: Roland-a-joint's MASS FX Log (sponsored) up and going)? Or just give your review HERE at the end of your first bottle (and then keep using through your other log)?

[rolandajoint]

Will you keep this log going, then (since you have another: Roland-a-joint's MASS FX Log (sponsored) up and going)? Or just give your review HERE at the end of your first bottle (and then keep using through your other log)?

ill probably post a mini review for the first bottle. and ill be making comments in the mass fx log about how my joint and shoulder are feeling on a day to day basis.

and ill possibly keep this open. havent decided. if i decide to have all commentary about osteo-sport in my new log, ill post up the link in here to steer anyone looking for updates to the new log.

^^^sounds jumbled to me haha. yeah.....hope that clears things up a bit

[CTDeuce]

oh it's clear alright.

I just showed up and you're looking to jump ship to a new log. I see your tricks!

[rolandajoint]

oh it's clear alright.

I just showed up and you're looking to jump ship to a new log. I see your tricks!

its just that, well. i dont know how to put this....

its not you. its me. i cant make you come to my new log, but i cant ask you to stay here at this log and wait for me. do you see how this is hurting me?? ughhh

haha glad to have you either way. especially if youre interested in fixing a joint problem. cuz i guarantee, the answer is osteo-sport. or surgery. but id say give osteosport a try first

[CTDeuce]

its just that, well. i dont know how to put this....

its not you. its me. i cant make you come to my new log, but i cant ask you to stay here at this log and wait for me. do you see how this is hurting me?? ughhh

haha glad to have you either way. especially if youre interested in fixing a joint problem. cuz i guarantee, the answer is osteo-sport. or surgery. but id say give osteosport a try first

The only joint problem I need to fix right this second resides right after "rolanda"

I guess i'll follow to another log if I must

[Rosie Chee]

ill probably post a mini review for the first bottle. and ill be making comments in the mass fx log about how my joint and shoulder are feeling on a day to day basis.

and ill possibly keep this open. havent decided. if i decide to have all commentary about osteo-sport in my new log, ill post up the link in here to steer anyone looking for updates to the new log.

^^^sounds jumbled to me haha. yeah.....hope that clears things up a bit

Makes sense a mini-review to finish THIS log off. And then just comments, as you would. Good luck in getting your shoulder back to full strength and function.

[rms80]

today, my dog, nelson aka nigga black, passed away. ive had him since i was like 6 and he was 14 and a half. gonna miss that guy.



update on friday.

man- sorry to hear about that- I am a dog person (as you can see by my avatar)- Mugsy and Bianca are like my kids