Ya, sorry about that. After reading my original post, I feel like i might of made exaggerated Animal Pack and make it seem like the best thing ever with the usage of some words (especially adjectives and adverbs) so i edited it out. Timmo when i said little pain well one big thing that was different with Animal pack was that after my lift (an hour and half) and some condo I was not sore at all, non of my muscles were in pain. I mean I could feel my muscles being very tight and everything, but I had no soreness (which i usually get). My lifting partner however, was very sore after the lift. I mean there could be a few reasons for this rather than the animal pack, but i don't know. Also while I was lifting, i felt like I could add more weight with each set (until i stopped because I couldn't handle the weight) and I couldn't feel the strains of my muscle while lifting. That was how I felt. I mean a very bad analogy is I felt like I was high, I knew there was soreness and could feel why there would be soreness, but I didn't actually feel the soreness. If that makes sense