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    Quote Originally Posted by edwards View Post
    Friend of Bill here as well. 6/7/07.
    Awesome. Congrats on the time.

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    Day 12

    Am weight 181.5

    Groundhog day.

    Chest and shoulders today.

    2 PC shakes today
    3 hardboiled eggs
    PBnJ on wheat with animal pak PWO

    Just Finished making another 2 quarts of chx/rice.
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    Day 12 Part B

    Workout sucked......I didnt eat enough today....busy with errands and working........Mentally not focused......

    warm up supersets
    115x10
    135x10

    4x6
    Incline bench- 160
    Incline DB's-55's
    Hammer Bench-70 each side

    Supersetted these 4x6
    Seated Push machine- 9 plates
    Seated Fly machine......9 plates

    Im a weak biatch.....

    Got my workout done in 30 minutes or less.....So my rest periods were 30 seconds or less, with 1 minute or so rests between sets............

    Equating into an even weaker biatch syndrome.(if thats possible)

    I hate it when i cut cals..........My lifts ALWAYS suffer......ALWAYS.

    Come hell or high water, I will have a good workout tomorrow..

    Im dissappointed with todays workout

    Total Food intake sad for the day, It felt that way.

    Fazio 2 piece canneloni with parm cheese- 1 Heaping Tablespoon

    1 cup LF cottage cheese with 1/3 cup nuts.
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    hope you got the original snickers on the two for 1. the almond ones suck in comparison. since stopping drinking, coffee, krispy kremes, and snickers are my #1 vices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    hope you got the original snickers on the two for 1. the almond ones suck in comparison. since stopping drinking, coffee, krispy kremes, and snickers are my #1 vices.
    yes sir, originals........only way to fly........


    Day 13

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    I will eat properly today ..... When i am at work, believe or not, i can make time to eat. I have fridge and microwave next to my tool box. We also have an ice machine, drinking fountains and galley.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    yes sir, originals........only way to fly........


    Day 13

    AM Weight 182

    I will eat properly today ..... When i am at work, believe or not, i can make time to eat. I have fridge and microwave next to my tool box. We also have an ice machine, drinking fountains and galley.
    when i am busy at work i don't even think about food, i rely mainly on stuff like purple wraath and protein shakes. i haven't heard a kitchen called a galley since my navy days, you got a head too?
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    I need to get used to bringing food into work with me again, since i'm changing jobs and no more working from home. not sure how i'm going to cope with that part
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    when i am busy at work i don't even think about food, i rely mainly on stuff like purple wraath and protein shakes. i haven't heard a kitchen called a galley since my navy days, you got a head too?
    yes sir.........two of them actually.......lol

    not think about food?...........OMG.......that s all i think about. almost........lol

    I try to eat 6 times a day, sometimes 7 or 8.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I need to get used to bringing food into work with me again, since i'm changing jobs and no more working from home. not sure how i'm going to cope with that part
    damn, it must be rough. home-boy or should i say houseboy?
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    hehehehe yeah, I mean crap, when i got hungry i'd just flip on the stove, and throw a fish fillet on, or a chicken breast or whatever. fully stocked fridge and freezer. now I have to plan and stuff. and i'm taking a pay cut. what the hell was I thinking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    hehehehe yeah, I mean crap, when i got hungry i'd just flip on the stove, and throw a fish fillet on, or a chicken breast or whatever. fully stocked fridge and freezer. now I have to plan and stuff. and i'm taking a pay cut. what the hell was I thinking?
    what the hell were you thinking?
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    I was thinking I was not digging be more involved in sales than in software development
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I need to get used to bringing food into work with me again, since i'm changing jobs and no more working from home. not sure how i'm going to cope with that part
    Its just an adjustment...... I have trouble with caloric intake when Im NOT at work.........go figure...........
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    I think i'm going to do it scivation style - do the mixed meals in large bowl at home with the meats, veggies, carbs, etc all together, make a few pounds of it, then just measure it into tupperware containers to bring with me. seems like the best way to control it. that plus protein powder and a shaker cup, and some nuts for snacks
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    food is easy, at one point i was taking up to 20 pills while at work. that raised some eyebrows at first. everyone is used to it now, no big deal. but i get bugged about what to take for this and for that, no problem though i don't mind that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I think i'm going to do it scivation style - do the mixed meals in large bowl at home with the meats, veggies, carbs, etc all together, make a few pounds of it, then just measure it into tupperware containers to bring with me. seems like the best way to control it. that plus protein powder and a shaker cup, and some nuts for snacks

    Tupperware is where its at......... I have measuring cups...... I figure my mix of chix/brnrice/spices/olive oil ...........Each cup costs me around $1.25+/- depending on the cost of chicken.
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    Day 13 Part B

    Normal breakfast......
    4 cups chx/rice... 4 times throughout day.
    Normal tuesday pre-wo protocol........

    Definately can tell Im off that last stack. The friggin lethargy on this 17HM is legit. I am popping 600mg of caffeine through the day to stay moving.

    Warm up squats- ATG
    135x10
    185x5x4

    Deadlifts
    135x10
    225x6x6
    no belt this week
    not sure if i could have done the 315 or not.

    Calf raises on smith machine-on box, deep slow raises
    295x5x10

    Laying squat machine
    200x15 with 5 second statics
    225x10 with 3 second statics
    250x8 decent tempo
    300x 6 fast temp

    Leg extensions
    70x2xburn

    shrugs-
    85x3x6


    Overall so far I am disappointed in this IDS product. I feel like ****e with post afternoon dose. Strength is going down. Libido is it the same. Mood is not better.

    In its defense, I have been cutting calories too......... Usually when i do that, my lifts all suffer.

    Unless something changes I will sell the other bottle...

    Dinner was a PC shake.
    I had an drumstick ice cream cone for desert......
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    Day 14

    Am weight 178.5

    Groundhog day.

    Made a doublebatch of chx/rice 16 cups+

    Yummy.

    I feel my glutes and hams and back from last nights workout. Quads should kick in later today or tonight........See how bad the DOMS is tomorrow.
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    thanks for the review, if things continue this way you will have saved me from trying this. got to admit interest was peaked at the start. maybe just use second bottle as a pre-workout stim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    thanks for the review, if things continue this way you will have saved me from trying this. got to admit interest was peaked at the start. maybe just use second bottle as a pre-workout stim.
    No problem bro, thats why i posted it.

    I must admit though........

    I just came off a wonderful stack........ AX,LX,PCS and ZMA.
    And Im cutting calories, bridging into a cut sept 1st(60 days).

    For the money i paid for it, its okay.........But 30 or 40 bucks a bottle...........NO WAY.

    I will say it again..........That last stack is my favorite so far....Besides real test.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    No problem bro, thats why i posted it.

    I must admit though........

    I just came off a wonderful stack........ AX,LX,PCS and ZMA.
    And Im cutting calories, bridging into a cut sept 1st(60 days).

    For the money i paid for it, its okay.........But 30 or 40 bucks a bottle...........NO WAY.

    I will say it again..........That last stack is my favorite so far....Besides real test.
    i am really liking resveratrol, testing lg's t911 and starting to feel decent results. wanting to try dermacrine too.
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    Day 14 Part B

    4 cups chix rice........

    lots o h20

    DOMS setting in on glutes, hams and quads........ PAIN=HURT

    "the only thing thats real"

    ABB Tribulus shot yesterday=monkey spank

    Lethargy is getting stupid on this ****e.

    Dinner was
    1 cup Normal cottage cheese
    1/4 mixed nuts
    1.5 scoop PC shake

    Snack- 2oz. of beef jerky
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Day 14 Part B


    Lethargy is getting stupid on this ****e.
    yeah , I stop it on the 15 day cause I had to study on that time and I felt like a drunk zombie
    I wonder what is the lethargy cause?
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    Day 15

    Am weight 177.5

    Groundhog day.- PC shake with 1 hardboiled egg this morning.

    chx/rice today.......

    Bi's and Tri's tonight.


    As far as the lethargy goes, I dont know. Strength has not gone up. so whatever it is, its not working.

    DOMS today is bad. Glutes, Hams, back and traps all sore. So on a recovery standpoint, this 17HM sucks.
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    Day 15 Part B

    4 cups chx/rice today......... I think my chicken rice ratio is actually 1.5 chicken to 1 part brown rice.............

    I know, I know.....First it was 2:1, then 1:1, now 1.5:1 I know its more protein than carbs for sure......

    ABB ripped force sipped throughout day to help fight off lethargy.

    ABB tribulus shot and Animal Pack with Preworkout meal. 30 minutes prior to workout.......I think this is my optimal window.

    Decent arm workout tonight
    3 sets bis
    5 sets tris

    In and out........

    Dinner 1.5-1.75 cups roasted chicken meat, no skin
    1 cup mixed vegetable- tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers,onion, in a vinagrette sauce
    1/3 cup mixed nuts for snack

    Water, Lots of it.......
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    Day 16

    Am weight 179.5

    Groundhog day..

    No Gym until monday.
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    Day 16 Part B

    DOMS still lingering in the legs

    Arms pumped but not sore from last nites workout

    4 cups chx/rice, 4 1 cup servings spaced out over 9 hours as always.

    Just ate some vegetables and handful of nuts to ward off hunger until dinner........

    im hogjawing on something sloppy tonight.....I got that deep hunger.

    Overall impression of 17-HM is neutral...... Im going to tuff out the next 14 days and see how it goes.......

    Dinner was hogfest:
    Hardees- 2 double cheeseburgers, then 15 minutes later
    1/2 pound sourdough burger
    some curly fries- small, then an hour later
    Fazios- 2 piece canneloni

    Tons of water.
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    Day 17

    Am weight 185

    Groundhog day

    Legs DOMS finally gone, now i have a little in my arms.

    breakfast shake
    3 cups of chix/rice

    so far today.
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    Day 17 Part B

    Went to a party with my gfriend.....

    2 plates full of misc. apps, pasta, chips, vegetables and dips.

    1 Pint of Ben and Jerrys Half baked....... lol

    H20........lots of it as always.
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    Day 18

    Am weight

    181.5

    Protein shake for breakfast
    1.5 cups of chix rice

    so far........

    Sunday= slack day

    will ride harley or get camaro out.....
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    Day 18 Part B

    1.5 cups chx/rice

    4 homemade BLT's...........

    2 then an hour later
    1, then an hour later
    1..........lol

    Wheat bread, Iceberg lettuce, home grown tomatoes, bacon, miracle whip and cheese

    1 pint BJ's Half baked.

    sickening, I know. But damn I was hungry.

    One thing is for sure, this stuff doesnt suppress appetite.
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    Day 19

    Am weight 183.5

    PC shake with 6.5oz xpresso & 6.5 oz water. same as usual.

    Chest and shoulders later today.

    Working and running errands today. Eating ****ty.

    Healthy choice salsbury steak meal
    Penn Station East Coast Subs- Medium Philly Steak sandwich with deathsticks and unsweetened tea.

    1 cup chx rice prewo.

    so far today.
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    Day 19 Part B

    Workout was good. I had a partner slowing me down for a change.

    I did his weights, slow and controlled. I actually had a few forced reps. 4x8 or failure
    Incline bench
    Dumbell flat bench
    Flat flys
    Machine flys -ss
    Push machine-ss
    Hammer Machine

    Good chest, shoulder pump and bailed.

    Hopefully I will be off the hogjaw train the rest of the week.

    Will eat 1 cup cottage cheese and PC shake tonight for dinner.

    Water as usual.
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    Day 20

    Am weight 182

    Good pump and a bit sore from last nights workout.

    I just want to get this bottle over with.

    I will be starting a controlled labs stack sept 1st.

    Sesaglow, Red Acid G3, Reduction........... 60 days. Supposedly some good appetite suppressors in CL's products......Time will tell.

    Dont think i will publicly log it. I may take some before pics and see what the afters look like.....


    So far I am neutral on this 17HM. I feel/look like i am getting stronger and fuller........But i can do that with diet and training.........
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    Day 20 Part B

    4 cups chix/rice- food throughout the day as normal

    Squat session......Operation Superset ATG

    135x10- straight into lifting
    185x6,5,4,3- 30 sec rest
    135x6x6 supersetted.......I almost passed out. They became breathing squats almost immediately.

    I know the weight is not alot, but for me it is.......I go ATG slow controlled, pause at ground zero then lift.......

    My shirt was drenched, I was dizzy and was barely able to do deads. I did 4x8 135 on deads.......lol..........

    Calfs on smith with box...... 295x6x6 pause hold at top and bottom.

    Laying machine squats.........200 with roughly a 252 tempo(no lockouts, 5 sec static at parallel) until utter failure, then 250 same kind of tempo, utter failure.........total of 6 sets(4 and 2)......

    Then I wobbled out with my shirt soaked with sweat.......smiling in pain.

    Good workout for me.......

    Dinner was 1 cup cottage cheese, 2 cups mixed veggies- broc, tomato, cuccs, peppers,onions,
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    Day 21

    Am weight 179.5

    Groundhog day.

    Leg DOMS has set in already, Tomorrow is going to be sick.

    Will do arms either thursday or friday.

    At the tailend of this cycle......
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    Day 21 Part B

    3 cups chix/rice
    1/2 cup almonds
    2 double cheeseburgers DQ

    Dinner still to come.

    DOMS is bad....... Really bad......... This stuff absolutely sucks for recovery.........
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    Day 22

    Am weight 183

    Doms still bad, It felt like a layer of toxins(dead tissue) ripped from my quads when i got out of bed...........

    Groundhog day..........Arms tonight, possibly tomorrow nite.

    T- 8 days and counting........lol
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    Day 22 Part B

    4 cups chxrice today
    2 snickers bars

    Doms is very bad. Not sure why. Made work very difficult. Wore me down.

    Arm workout with partner. I had no stamina. Zero.

    bi-s 3 sets
    tris- 4 or 5

    I just went the motions and bailed.

    ****ty workout.

    Dinner was hogfest

    Fazio- 2 piece canneloni
    6 pieces of lucia's pizza
    1 corn dog

    Also my mood was not good all day. Pretty sure it was DOMS related.
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    Day 23

    Am weight 184.5

    Doms in legs still very apparent. This is ridiculous, I havent had Doms this bad in a long time. Still trying to understand why.

    Arms are pumped and slightly sore from last nites workout.

    Groundhog day.

    Review------ T minus 7 days and counting...........
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