CEE and Kre-Alkalyn v. Creatine Mono (AGAIN!)

DEADn · 08-02-2008, 09:58 AM

I am very aware of the whole debate on the 3 forms of creatine. I tried Mono on 2 ocassions. I did not see it do much for me plus the fact that I hated loading it and having to drink it with a sugary juice and keep mixing it.

I have never tried CEE

I currently do KA. I used to use SCI FIT but I found I could get EFX cheaper so I switched to them. I made am email to the guy in charge there to ask him about this testing and all.
The results I see in me with KA are these:
-If I do not take in enough water I find my lower lips gets a dryness.

-There are times where I find my muscle getting a certain tightness in them which lasts usually for an hour or more. Sometimes I will wake up and find my whole system very tight and am shocked to see what I see in the mirror...good thing.
-Maybe it is a placebo effect but I was out of training for 4 months. My biceps were about 15 1/2" Taking KA along with training brought them up to about 16" at this moment.

- KA...I take it because it is so much easier to take pill form than powder. I can take the pills and then drink water and not having to worry about sucking a whole glass down within a few minutes. Usually I suck down several glasses with KA in the span of 10-15 minutes.

This is my experience and thoughts on the subject. In the future I may try some difference mono, micronized and see what happens again. For now KA is my thing.

DEADn
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russianstar · 10-01-2008, 07:26 AM

Ive got to add my view here..

Firstly creatine mono, does work very well, by storing water in the muscle cells, and of course the effects of the creatine itself on muscle energy output.
I have used creatine monohydrate, and my strength always goes up, my speed, improves, i just hate the water retention, especialy in my face.
So i used kre alkalyn, i found the pumps i got were great, my lifts went up slightly, but my speed didnt improve, i record everything i do, i will show you my results after i just say my views.
Then i used CEE, wich as regards muscle size and pumps go, it was way stronger than mono, however i still didnt get as good strength increases, and no speed improvement, i think kre-alkalyn and CEE work, i actualy prefer Kre-alkalyn, as i get no water bloat at all, but i might as well use a nitric oxide booster, as i guess the effects are very similar.

Here are my lifts, bench press, and my 100 metre sprint times.
before creatine this was 4 years ago that i logged this information, when i started trying to get bigger, and faster.

Before creatine cycle/ bench 110kilo/ 100metres sprint 10.82sec i repped 110 kilo 3 times
Creatine mono/ bench 120 kilo/ 100 metres 10.69
Kre-alkalyn/ bench 115kilo/ 100 metres 10.80
CEE/ bench 115/ 100 metres 10.79

Current after steroid cycles etc. bench 160kilo/100 metres 10.60 yeah i know im like a second behind usain bolt, but im a white guy, i only run 100 metres once a week, maybe if i trained i could get it lower, but nowhere near olympic standard. Black guys will always be quicker, they have straight bones.
Review.. Mono is the best for strength and speed, i would say CEE for size, And kre-alkalyn for pumps. hope this info helps guys. Russian

Hbs6 · 10-01-2008, 07:35 AM

Everyone is worried about what creatine they are taking...why not just make sure your diet and training is in order...

russianstar · 10-03-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hbs6

Everyone is worried about what creatine they are taking...why not just make sure your diet and training is in order...

not worried bro, just if we supplement, we want to know what works!!!

Hbs6 · 10-03-2008, 08:52 PM

creatine, for the most part, is creatine. If training and diet are not in order then you are pissing your money away.

russianstar · 10-04-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Hbs6

creatine, for the most part, is creatine. If training and diet are not in order then you are pissing your money away.

Lol, your not supposed to post here if your diet and training are not in order. Didnt you know?

BiggerGeek · 10-04-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by russianstar

Lol, your not supposed to post here if your diet and training are not in order. Didnt you know?

if only there was some way to inforce this....

every time I see a poll about fat burners, I always wonder how the votes correspond to the voters BF%.

conwict · 10-05-2008, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ReaperX

I take plenty of supplements for health too including fish oil. I've heard about cissus, but I've never actually tried it and it is something that I'll look into. My joints take a beating and glucosamine can only do so much so hopefully cissus will help as well.

In reguard to Kre-alkalyn, as far as my understanding goes the ONLY study that CONFIRMS that it does work is by EFX which is the one that is selling it (go figure). However ! there are other studies such as the one above that shows it DOES NOT WORK. I'd like to see an independent study that proves that CEE or Kre-Alkalyn does work, until then I doubt it.

I actually tried taking as high as 12g of Kre-Alkalyn which is WELL PAST their recommend dose, and still at the same time it did not give me what creatine monohydrate did at 10g.

With the aspect of pulsing, that is also something that I really don't buy into or worth entertaining. Yeah the idea of it really appeals to people, but most ppl who pulse get a SERM anyway so what's the point ? I assumed when the compound was researched and manufactured it was not under the presumption of a 'pulse usage'....so in that respect I think that any type of compound should still be used at a steady rate till the end then SERMs used accordingly.

Fish oil has huge benefits on body composition, not just health.

russianstar · 10-05-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BiggerGeek

if only there was some way to inforce this....

every time I see a poll about fat burners, I always wonder how the votes correspond to the voters BF%.

Yeah i hear you bro, thats exactly what i think, how supercidius we are.