Test. levels for a 21 year old
06-07-2011 06:46 PM
You can find good information from experienced people in the field in the anti-aging forum. I would take your question there. Pretty much all that is talked about.
Also note that your test levels can fluctuate by up to 40% per day depending on what time of day you got them tested, what kind of sleep you got, and what you did the night before.
A lot goes into it.
06-08-2011 08:52 AM
Originally Posted by bdcc
Dopamine and Serotonin.. Cortisol... even Prostaglandins can have a profound effect on erection and sexual quality... stress will effect almost all of these..
06-08-2011 01:19 PM
Dr John Crisler will be on specifically to address this question on Thursday of this week during the first hour... we will all be informed...
06-08-2011 02:06 PM
I have no idea what the numbers should be but one problem could be to much estrogen. You could research into that. Some causes are soy products which are in a ton of things these days.
06-08-2011 03:04 PM
Dr. John will be on, cool!
So, what time (time zone) will he be showing up? Will he basically be showing up in this thread and posting for an hour to those interested in the discussion? I'd be interested in being there for that and possibly asking a few testosterone questions.
06-08-2011 08:06 PM
A otc product like animal test is not gonna help anyone with low T.
Originally Posted by JeremyT
06-08-2011 08:34 PM
I never said that it would 'help' them. If you read what I had said in that little bit, I said it was just for your mind, not what it -could- do to your hormones and affect your test levels.
06-08-2011 09:12 PM
Did you take baby formula when you where a child? Did you measure estrogen levels to see if you have an inbalance? Are you getting morning erections every day?
So, my question is: with these numbers and symptoms, is it worth going to the doctor, or should I try to just wait it out... and if I should go to the doctor, how should I approach him to try to get the most out of it?
BTW "Normal" changes with every generation... normal test levels in the 60's a lot higher than today's levels. That does not make it "Normal", it is just an adaptation to current lifestyles and poor genetics.
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06-08-2011 09:26 PM
I don't believe I was fed formula, and my estradiol was tested and was within the lab's reference interval. And I haven't had a morning erection in at least six months...
Originally Posted by micharch
I guess it could be stress... I mean I'm a premed but I've also been a premed for three years, and I don't see anything happening that has recently made my life more stressful. I guess I'll try meditation or something...
06-08-2011 09:54 PM
Interesting... Some things that have worked for *me* are:
Originally Posted by aaron12
Good intake of saturated fats like Coconut oil, Eggs, Red Meat, Pistachios, Avocados. (This will also help your brain)
Don't overtrain, and for me 4-6 reps of the basics (Squats, presses, deadlifts) seems to keep my test levels up.
8 hrs of sleep
Adding raw Maca to my 3 daily protein shakes (15g each)
Also 100-150mg of Zinc Citrate and 500mg Magnesium Citrate
06-09-2011 01:08 AM
Originally Posted by micharch
This is some excellent advice. Along with this I'd try to limit or omit all fructose, when you are going to workout or something i'm sure some fruit would be okay unless you are metabolically deranged (high bf), then i think you should try your best to cut it out. You can live for a while w/o fruits as long as you take a multi vit/ maybe some anti oxidant supps. But I wouldn't 'omit' them indefinitely.
Stick to your lower fructose containing starches for carbs.
But for sure get that magnesium. If you can run more tests check your DHEA level (I think it was the sulfur DHEA level). I believe Mike Mahler had a podcast on SHR on this and he also sells a cream on his site.
06-09-2011 09:52 AM
SHR 6/9 @ 9:00AM PT/12:00PM ET
Chickens In The Hood PLUS Is 597 "Normal" Testosterone For A 21 Year Old PLUS Amino Acids For Super Humans Part Three
Guest: Steve Lewis & Dr. John Crisler & Prof. Dr. ProfDr Andro
Listen LIVE using the player at the top of the page
06-09-2011 09:59 AM
Will they be doing a kind of lecture or can we propose questions to the experts somehow
06-09-2011 11:17 AM
post questions here.. Dr. Crisler will only be on for 30 minutes and we'll try and answer your questions.. I can always have him back on to go deeper.. just trying to answer the OP...
06-09-2011 01:02 PM
I was only able to listen to the tail end of that ( at work) but what I heard was fascinating and now I'm hungry for more info. gonna check out the site allthingsmale.com. I never really noticed the listen live link up there before and listened to another show earlier this morning on GMO's. I'll be dialing in more often for sure.
Would love to here more from Dr. Crisler in the future! thanks AM.
06-09-2011 01:21 PM
First of all, thanks Carl for putting that question up to Dr. Crisler, and thanks to Dr. Crisler for his time...
To address some of the uncertainties from the segment, the reference interval for total T was 249-836, and for free T was 9.3-26.5. My SHBG was tested in the panel, and came out to be 36.5 nmol/L (ref int 14.5-48.4)... I don't know if Dr. Crisler would still agree the SHBG is high.
I agree that a lot of it has probably been self-induced.. I did have some pretty sh*t experiences early in the year that lingered on in my mind... I'm gonna be more open with my gf and work on my confidence in the bed.
06-10-2011 08:12 AM
Did you happen to see an albumin test in there? It'd be part of a "Comprehensive Metabolic Panel".
06-10-2011 02:12 PM
Yes sir: 4.7 g/dl (ref int 3.5-5.5)
Originally Posted by Dr. John
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