so this is what i'm doing now...

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first 10 days was 20mgs havoc...because i'm afraid of hairloss and had a bad case when I did havoc before i've decided to finnish up my last 20 days with

10mgs havoc + 10-20mgs M-Drol


I've heard much better things about M-Drol and hairloss (compared with havoc) so I've dropped my havoc dose to 10 and added M-Drol into the mix...

I figure I already have a good PCT so I might as well up the dose to 20mgs, what's the point in ****in with my hormonals unless i'm gonna get some good gains...

thoughts?
 
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I don't know what you've read, but i did a cycle of another sd-clone and i shed hair on it. i am not predisposed to MPB either!
So I would def. reconsider running the m-drol bro
 
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dont start with the 20mg of m-drol, keep it at 10 for the first 2 weeks, and eat a ton and make sure ur gettin good complex carb intake
 
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Right. I'm aware that it can and probably will cause hairloss

however from my personal experience and from what I read especially on this forum, Havoc/Epi has a much bigger reputation for causing hairloss, and continued hairloss even after the cycle is run.

so 10mgs havoc 30mgs mdrol for another 10 days?
 

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you guys taking havoc do you also take the regular dosage on your off days?
 
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Right. I'm aware that it can and probably will cause hairloss

however from my personal experience and from what I read especially on this forum, Havoc/Epi has a much bigger reputation for causing hairloss, and continued hairloss even after the cycle is run.

so 10mgs havoc 30mgs mdrol for another 10 days?
30mg of m-drol is to much and more so with stacking it with another methyl the sides could be really bad. M-drol does not need to be stacked with anything IMO it is plenty otent enough on it's own:thumbsup:
 
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on off days (unless your pulsing) you still take your determined dose.


the thing is that I am probably only doing a 3 - 4 week cycle...so I don't think 30mgs of M-Drol is too much...
 
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on off days (unless your pulsing) you still take your determined dose.


the thing is that I am probably only doing a 3 - 4 week cycle...so I don't think 30mgs of M-Drol is too much...
Well it is up to you bro we all need to make our own decisions. I wish you the very best of luck:thumbsup:
 
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30mg of m-drol is to much and more so with stacking it with another methyl the sides could be really bad. M-drol does not need to be stacked with anything IMO it is plenty otent enough on it's own:thumbsup:

my mistake, i'm only doing 20mgs M-Drol...I had it confused with P-Plex (where the dose is 15mgs a pill)

so yeah, I agree 30 is to high of a dose
 

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