StarChem Labs Icon

  1. Registered User
    slow-mun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,156
    Rep Power
    1176

    StarChem Labs Icon


    ......rules!

    edited to include no links.
    What is ICON?

    NAS: NATURAL ANABOLIC SUBSTANCES

    Unlike anabolic steroids, which are synthetic derivatives of testosterone, NAS are naturally-occurring anabolic agents found in the foods we eat every day. The StarChem Laboratories research team has uncovered a potent muscle building agent that has never before been introduced to the dietary supplement market.

    ICON11-Ketotestosterone

    Introducing ICON, by StarChem Labs. A new muscle building dietary ingredient, ICON is a breakthrough in the Sports Nutrition industry. A naturally occurring anabolic substance, we‘ve set out to prove that the building blocks of advanced muscle growth are derived from food. The active ingredient found in ICON can provide impressive gains in muscle mass while simultaneously reducing bodyfat.

    * Myotrophic Endogenous Compound
    * Non-Methylated/Non Liver Toxic
    * Non-Aromatizing
    * Anti-Catabolic
    * Helps Burn Visceral Fat



    11-Ketotestosterone sits at the top in the hierarchy of naturally occurring anabolic substances known as the 11-Oxygenated family of endogenous agents. Recognized as the main androgenic hormone in many species of fish, 11-Ketotestosterone also serves a secondary role in human endocrinology as an endogenous adrenal substance capable of exerting powerful anabolic effects.

    In addition to its role as a muscle building hypertrophic agent, 11-Ketotestosterone is known to be a potent inhibitor of the enzyme 11β -Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type-1 reductase. This enzyme catalyzes the transformation of cortisone into the catabolic and lipogenic hormone cortisol in many target tissues throughout the body. Inhibition of this enzyme is known to have numerous beneficial effects upon physical health such as decreased visceral fat, greater insulin sensitivity, improved blood lipid profiles, and healthier vascular tone.

    11-Ketotestosterone does not convert to DHT nor does it aromatize to estrogens, and being a natural compound native to our own bodies it is metabolized in the liver efficiently and safely.
    ICON does not contain any dangerous methylated chemical alterations that can be toxic to the liver and negatively impact cholesterol profiles.

    Over the course of human evolution, man has made great progressions in his intellectual maturity; in turn being gifted with an acquired knowledge of self-preservation and physical development. The human instinct has always been to hunt and gather for the precious fuel that powers our engine; FOOD. Over time we have learned that the Natural Anabolic Substances [NAS] found in foods are crucial components of growth.

    The research and development team at StarChem Labs has developed a revolutionary product, ICON, which allows man to develop himself to his maximum physical potential. The next step in your evolutionary progression has begun.

    No more avoiding mirrors… No more feeling weak and insecure… No more looking up to the other guy…

    ICON allows you to break any predetermined mold fate has planned for your body. It’s time to sculpt your own masterpiece and put yourself on a pedestal. Become an image to be worshiped for the ages with ICON by StarChem Labs.

    ICON-Supplement Facts
    Serving Size: 3 Caps
    Servings Per Container: 20
    Amount Per Serving
    11-Ketotestosterone 150mg

    ICON Other Ingredients
    Gelatin, Cellulose, Magnesium Stearate, Candurin Silver Fine, Red #3, Yellow #5.

    ICON Suggested Use:
    Take 1 capsule 3 times per day, preferably with meals for no more than 8 weeks at a time.
    Last edited by slow-mun; 07-26-2008 at 10:41 AM. Reason: sorry about that

  2. Registered User
    nunes's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Location
    PORTO/PORTUGAL
    Age
    38
    Posts
    1,528
    Rep Power
    1316

    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    ...
    11-oxo vs icon
    I look forward to see who wins...
  3. Registered User
    coug42's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Provo, UT
    Age
    29
    Posts
    295
    Rep Power
    9371

    I wonder how these compare as far as oral bioavailability goes. I remember 1ad being a lot more potent orally when compared to it's target compound of 1-Test.
    •   
       

  4. Registered User
    slow-mun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,156
    Rep Power
    1176

    Quote Originally Posted by coug42 View Post
    I wonder how these compare as far as oral bioavailability goes. I remember 1ad being a lot more potent orally when compared to it's target compound of 1-Test.
    That was true until they started to work on the delivery of 1-T. IMHO, 1-T was the superior product orally, with an ether attached. Transdermal, there really wasn't any comparison.
  5. Registered User
    slow-mun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,156
    Rep Power
    1176

    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    11-oxo vs icon
    I look forward to see who wins...
    I think they might have actually worked with PA to release this.
  6. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    rpen22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    3,702
    Rep Power
    11091

    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    I think they might have actually worked with PA to release this.
    Are you basing that off of Patrick's "irony" comment on BB.com when asked if he was going to be testing it or do you know something else?
  7. Registered User
    coug42's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Location
    Provo, UT
    Age
    29
    Posts
    295
    Rep Power
    9371

    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    That was true until they started to work on the delivery of 1-T. IMHO, 1-T was the superior product orally, with an ether attached. Transdermal, there really wasn't any comparison.
    I am very aware that people react differently to certain compounds. Personally I found that I had better results with 300mg of Ergo's 1-ad when compared to 300mg orally of Chemi-sport labs 1-Test THP ether or Molecular's 1-T ethergels. That may just be me though. Transdermal 1-Test on the other hand was a completely different story, and you're right, there is no comparison there.
  8. Registered User
    slow-mun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,156
    Rep Power
    1176

    Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Are you basing that off of Patrick's "irony" comment on BB.com when asked if he was going to be testing it or do you know something else?
    All I know is what someone else posted in another thread. I don't visit BB.com if I don't have to.
  9. Running with the Big Boys
    Board Sponsor
    rpen22's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Posts
    3,702
    Rep Power
    11091

    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    All I know is what someone else posted in another thread. I don't visit BB.com if I don't have to.
    Smart move.
  10. Registered User
    slow-mun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,156
    Rep Power
    1176

    Quote Originally Posted by coug42 View Post
    I am very aware that people react differently to certain compounds. Personally I found that I had better results with 300mg of Ergo's 1-ad when compared to 300mg orally of Chemi-sport labs 1-Test THP ether or Molecular's 1-T ethergels. That may just be me though. Transdermal 1-Test on the other hand was a completely different story, and you're right, there is no comparison there.
    I had better results with 1-T Ethergels and 1-TU than 1-AD, but you're completely right.
  11. Registered User
    JBerto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    561
    Rep Power
    380

    Thumbs up


    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    11-oxo vs icon
    I look forward to see who wins...
    +1

    Thats new supps look interesting.
  12. Registered User
    JBerto's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Europe
    Posts
    561
    Rep Power
    380

    BTW: BioTest launched Transdermal 11-Keto:

    http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=2416587
  13. Registered User
    rob561's Avatar
    Stats
    5'7"  182 lbs.
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    UCF
    Posts
    415
    Rep Power
    287

    Quote Originally Posted by nunes View Post
    11-oxo vs icon
    I look forward to see who wins...
    +2
    it better have a good results/price ratio
  14. Registered User
    Ziquor's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  211 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Age
    38
    Posts
    2,583
    Rep Power
    1373

    Interesting product. Part of PA's 11-oxo write-up:


    11-oxo is also a precursor to a very effective muscle building hormone known as 11-ketotestosterone. 11-ketotestosterone is some amazing stuff; not only does it not convert to DHT or estrogens, but it also has the lowest intrinsic estrogenic activity of any natural steroid hormone. The myotrophic boost you get from the 11-ketotestosterone will keep your muscle mass intact during your cutting phase, which will not only make you look better but will also enhance your fat loss through the maintanence of a high metabolic rate.

    I'm interested in seeing feedback in terms of oral bio-availability as well. Since like noted above in many cases a parent compound has no effect orally whereas a precursor to it does.
  15. Registered User
    Pikaberdot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Posts
    35
    Rep Power
    113

    When something sounds too good to be true, it always is.
  16. Registered User
    Movin_weight's Avatar
    Stats
    6'1"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    chi-town
    Posts
    802
    Rep Power
    1886

    11-oxo was a flop... isn't this just a clone?
  17. Registered User
    liquid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Posts
    1,609
    Rep Power
    75828

    Quote Originally Posted by Movin_weight View Post
    11-oxo was a flop... isn't this just a clone?
    I do not think this is suppose to be a clone. It is suppose to be a direct source to the target hormone (11-keto).
    Where 11-oxo is one step away from it. Judging by the picture posted by Slow-Mun.
  18. Registered User
    Gym4Life's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    843
    Rep Power
    2716

    Quote Originally Posted by Movin_weight View Post
    11-oxo was a flop... isn't this just a clone?
    Was this really a flop ?
  19. Registered User
    Force of Green's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  193 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Age
    31
    Posts
    5,531
    Rep Power
    149920

    Quote Originally Posted by Gym4Life View Post
    Was this really a flop ?
    No. Not sure where numb nuts gets his opinion from.
    Freedom means nothing here.
  20. Banned
    Iron Lungz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Wolf Den SF-10
    Age
    37
    Posts
    5,785
    Rep Power
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    No. Not sure where numb nuts gets his opinion from.
    HahaHa! Are you talking to yourself in the anonymous section? LOL!
  21. Registered User
    Force of Green's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  193 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Age
    31
    Posts
    5,531
    Rep Power
    149920

    LOL! No someone made a comment about me using any product that 'feel like crack yo". lol. I do talk to myself in the anonymous section sometimes though haha
    Freedom means nothing here.
  22. Banned
    Iron Lungz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Wolf Den SF-10
    Age
    37
    Posts
    5,785
    Rep Power
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    LOL! No someone made a comment about me using any product that 'feel like crack yo". lol. I do talk to myself in the anonymous section sometimes though haha

    I was refering to the term "numb nuts."

    You like crack? Me TOOOOO!
  23. Registered User
    Force of Green's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  193 lbs.
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Plant City, Florida
    Age
    31
    Posts
    5,531
    Rep Power
    149920

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post

    I was refering to the term "numb nuts."

    You like crack? Me TOOOOO!
    lol! someone else used it, but not me...

    Yes I do, though I'll not touch it My old, numb nut neighbor used to cook it himself and get his powder tested at UCLA medical by one of his 'clients' and it tested between 90%-93% pure... since 100% is impossible to get on the streets through anyone. You'd have to freebase it and then re-attach the HCL.
    Freedom means nothing here.
  24. Registered User
    TheLeper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    28
    Rep Power
    83

    People will mostly stick with 11-oxo due to price.
  25. Banned
    Iron Lungz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Wolf Den SF-10
    Age
    37
    Posts
    5,785
    Rep Power
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeper View Post
    People will mostly stick with 11-oxo due to price.
    Really?

  26. Registered User
    TheLeper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    28
    Rep Power
    83

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Really?

    Haha, hey Iron, have you used Icon?
  27. Registered User
    slow-mun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Age
    35
    Posts
    2,156
    Rep Power
    1176

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeper View Post
    Haha, hey Iron, have you used Icon?
    I have at 6 caps per day(300mg) about six or seven months ago. I wouldn't advise that anyone else follow my decision to waste $120 for a 30 day cycle.
  28. Registered User
    TheLeper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    28
    Rep Power
    83

    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    I have at 6 caps per day(300mg) about six or seven months ago. I wouldn't advise that anyone else follow my decision to waste $120 for a 30 day cycle.
    Wasn't worth it? Have you used 11-oxo at all? If so, how did it compare?
  29. Banned
    Iron Lungz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Wolf Den SF-10
    Age
    37
    Posts
    5,785
    Rep Power
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLeper View Post
    Haha, hey Iron, have you used Icon?
    Yes, I tried it at 6 caps a day for around 28 days. I would have been better off using a laxative for results.
  30. Registered User
    TheLeper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Posts
    28
    Rep Power
    83

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Yes, I tried it at 6 caps a day for around 28 days. I would have been better off using a laxative for results.
    Ha! Bummer... sorry to hear the results were bad. I guess the only 11-keto any good MAYBE is the biotest 11-T at the cost of two boxes of Icon.
  31. Registered User
    SeanyK's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  201 lbs.
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    257
    Rep Power
    286

    this stuff is pretty useless... i keep some around for pct and cortisol reduction at 3 caps. i've tried 6 caps and yea, was such a waste of cash
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Armageddon-StarChem Labs
    By Hyde12 in forum Supplements
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 01-01-2012, 04:02 PM
  2. Any experience with starchem icon?
    By SeanyK in forum Cycle Info
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 03-11-2009, 05:40 PM
  3. Mixing RPM with StarChem Armageddon
    By jleung in forum Supplements
    Replies: 27
    Last Post: 09-06-2007, 09:30 PM
  4. Icon's Log (JW, BAM, AP)
    By iconocin in forum Supplement Logs
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 01-23-2007, 02:20 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in